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Post by The Party Captain on Mar 10, 2010 0:21:02 GMT -5
In the age of Autotune, mashups, and remixes, is rock going to disappear from the airwaves?
In the past year or so, the only songs I can think of close to rock that reached the Top 10 on Billboard were Use Somebody and Hey Soul Sister.
It makes me absolutely furious when at a college campus, I hear nothing but the latest mashup, remix of the same damn song.
I want musicianship, talent, and music that's not manufactured. Is that too much to ask?
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Mar 10, 2010 1:03:08 GMT -5
Active, i.e. "cock" rock doesn't have musicianship or talent and is just a mashup of the latest hookers and blow song from a year ago. That's why almost all rock has disappeared off my top hits chart, cause good rock is almost gone. The Puddle of Mudd/Saliva/Hinder/Saving Abel/Buckcherry/Nickleback/etc. has destroyed what was left of rock. And alternative has gotten take over to a large degree by the cock, and what spots they have left in their playlist, they use to play shitty indie crap or old 90s stuff we're burned out on. Long live catchy electropop, cause without it, I'd have nothing at all to listen to anymore.
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Mar 10, 2010 1:09:45 GMT -5
In the age of Autotune, mashups, and remixes, is rock going to disappear from the airwaves? In the past year or so, the only songs I can think of close to rock that reached the Top 10 on Billboard were Use Somebody and Hey Soul Sister. It makes me absolutely furious when at a college campus, I hear nothing but the latest mashup, remix of the same damn song.I want musicianship, talent, and music that's not manufactured. Is that too much to ask? Yes, you're a dying breed, now start spinning some GaGa |
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Mar 10, 2010 1:22:34 GMT -5
Active, i.e. "cock" rock doesn't have musicianship or talent and is just a mashup of the latest hookers and blow song from a year ago. That's why almost all rock has disappeared off my top hits chart, cause good rock is almost gone. The Puddle of Mudd/Saliva/Hinder/Saving Abel/Buckcherry/Nickleback/etc. has destroyed what was left of rock. And alternative has gotten take over to a large degree by the cock, and what spots they have left in their playlist, they use to play s**tty indie crap or old 90s stuff we're burned out on. Agreeing with all of this except for good rock being almost gone. I can still think of a lot of good rock bands that fit between those two extremes. You just have to look for it. For instance, I think you would like Calansho. They play pretty much every style of rock, and sometimes multiple sounds in the same songs. You might also like The Bandar-Log, though that's a bit more of a stretch. |
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Post by pen on Mar 10, 2010 2:10:26 GMT -5
While I'm largely in agreement about cock rock, I think it's unfair to completely disregard Nickelback, Puddle Of Mudd, or Saliva. They weren't always cock rock. It's just taken over them like an infectious disease. And even still, there are lots of non cock rock bands that are awesome like Chevelle, Hurt, Alice In Chains, etc. I do understand that rock as a whole has not been selling very well of late though, or performing very well on mainstream pop stations, and this is regrettable but rock is far from dead.
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Mar 10, 2010 2:21:20 GMT -5
I think it's unfair to completely disregard Nickelback...They weren't always cock rock. Well, yes, but it was only two albums and they were only OK back then and not great. I think it's fine to include them in a generalization. |
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 10, 2010 2:47:59 GMT -5
Although rock music is still my genre of preference, it's getting extremely difficult for a "new" band to consistently impress me with the standard guitar, bass, drums, and vocals. Especially after being into rock music for the past 20 years, unless you're substantially incorporating a keyboard and electronics into your sound, or impress me with an amazing melody or arrangement, it's almost like I've heard it all at this point. If you're just gonna use the basic instrumentation, unless you rely heavily on effects pedals, you'd better be stepping your game up this late in "rock & roll" history.
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Mar 10, 2010 11:55:39 GMT -5
There are of course still some good spots, Fair To Midland is an amazing band that is making another incredible album as we speak. Chevelle is always a good listen, the last Shinedown cd was great, last year's Skillet was quite good, etc. But the majority of rock is either bad (i.e. cock) or stale (less than awesome new albums from TDG, BB and Green Day for instance which are eating up lots of the precious few spins that actually go to new music.
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Post by pen on Mar 10, 2010 13:00:48 GMT -5
I'll agree that TDG and BB's albums were disappointing but I thought 21st Century Breakdown was fantastic.
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Post by pen on Mar 10, 2010 13:01:06 GMT -5
I think it's unfair to completely disregard Nickelback...They weren't always cock rock. Well, yes, but it was only two albums and they were only OK back then and not great. I think it's fine to include them in a generalization. I'll generalize you. |
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Post by lockebox on Mar 10, 2010 13:04:33 GMT -5
The three singles off "21st Century Breakdown" didn't exactly eat up the airwaves on Active anyway.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Mar 10, 2010 14:00:18 GMT -5
21st Century Breakdown is actually a great album that suffered the fate of following a once in a career critically acclaimed, publicly accepted and loved album.
Had they been reversed, its a good possibility that they would have suffered the same fate.
Personally I think the problem comes more from the fact that music is being segregated more and more every year. It's become the point that CHR / POP has a defined sound and if you don't fit in it, it becomes extremely difficult to get more exposure than the smaller realm of rock radio. You look back twenty years ago and it was common to see the bubble gum pop (New Kids, Paula Abdul) Hair bands (Poison, Warrant, Motley Crue) classic artists(Billy Joel , Rod Stewart, Elton John) all in the top twenty of a Hot 100. It's too the point where the newer artists will struggle to find airtime on rock because with limited spins the stations (who remember are there to make money) won't take risks as much and will stand by the bands who have the proven track records. The day was, Alternative radio gave a lot of the new bands their start because it was the point of the stations. Days change, eras move on and one day we will probably look back at this time and wish it was the same. That's how bad it could be in the future. The amount of people who love rock and new rock music isn't changing, the way that we have to discover most of it is.
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