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Post by fischbone on Jan 2, 2011 10:07:04 GMT -5
*plans to find voodoo doll of fisher and poke it* HAHAHA! ;) Those are some of the best pics recently taken of her. DAMN! :o
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Post by misterscribbs on Jan 2, 2011 11:57:59 GMT -5
Daaaang, girl! At first when I read the little article under the picture, I thought they meant this was one of the engagement pictures, and I was so confused. That is NOT an engagement photo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2011 12:57:52 GMT -5
Wow...Carrie is soooo gorgeous! I want to meet her!! :)
Hmm, I hope "Mama's Song" can get to #1 next week, at least on Mediabase. Tim is looking so strong at Billboard. MS is actually my least favorite track from the album, but I still want it to go to #1, since it's quite close. I really, really think that SWISLY is the best choice for the 5th single, both commercially and critically. Should it be released, it would more than appeal her massive fanbase, and win over a lot of critics, radio stations, doubters, and new fans.
I will be a bit disappointed if it's not released--I'm prepared for that. I wouldn't mind a song like "Quitter", but if they do decide on an uptempo, my preference would be "This Time", followed closely by "Songs Like This" (this one would've been better liked than "Undo It", but we can't change the past and UI was still good). I really like "Unapologize", but I can't see many people other than Carrie fans enjoying that one on country radio, critics included. So, I think that one should remain an album track. And honestly, WCIS is one of the lesser-liked tracks on the album for me as well, probably in the bottom half. If it is a single, I'm sure it'd grow on me more as I hear it on the radio, but I just feel burned out on that one, like it's not nearly as strong as SWISLY, or as catchy as TT or SLT.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jan 2, 2011 13:57:40 GMT -5
I've decided, SWISLY must be released as a fifth single. After listening to it on repeat for days, I now realize that it's her best chance at a multi-week #1 from this album. It's also, in my opinion, guaranteed nominations for song/single/video(?), as well as fuel her wins for 2011 Female Vocalist and Entertainer of the Year at both the ACMs and CMAs. I just know it! There is no explanation to it, I just have this massive hunch that it's the answer to have a hugely successful 2011. It's the key to her 4th Female Vocalist at both organizations and her first nomination and win for Entertainer at the CMAs. I just know it! Sorry, but I had to say this somewhere... I'm pretty good at predicting things and I just feel so strongly about this. If, SWISLY isn't released, I feel it would be the BIGGEST mistake in Carrie's career thus far. It MUST be released so the public can be reminded how AMAZING Carrie really is. This song really has grown on me, the same way JTTW did. That's why I feel this song could be a career defining single just like JTTW and BHC have been thus far. That's what I have to say on the topic of the next single. BTW, That picture of Carrie is perhaps the best and hottest one in a long time. It earned the prestigious title of being my desktop picture. Congrats Carrie! hahaha
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Post by vinman on Jan 2, 2011 14:25:58 GMT -5
Damn that Fisher gets to curl up next to that beauty often!
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Post by Typo on Jan 2, 2011 14:28:11 GMT -5
This belongs here, too:
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Post by Black Jesus on Jan 2, 2011 14:38:15 GMT -5
Are they really planning on a 5th single? I really wish this era would be over. The tour is over. The album is basically double platinum. MS has been a real struggle to get up the charts...she needs to disappear for awhile IMO. She's been all over everything and honestly, I'm getting a bit sick of her. My ideal plan would be new single in late August-September and album out early November 2011. I'd really like them to spend time on this album and make it the best they could make it.
She needs another album like SH. IMO, the past two albums have been fairly weak. Weak singles from this album (except CC). SH's songs were lyrically excellent.
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Post by realityBITES on Jan 2, 2011 14:53:30 GMT -5
God, that is one sexy photo shoot. Hopefully, that picture is the next album cover. I don't think she's been overexposed. I mean, she's done the country award shows like all the other big stars. In fact, I think her visibility has decreased since the CR era. As for a 5th single, I'm all for it, as long as it's the right one. WCIS or SWISLY please!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jan 2, 2011 15:20:07 GMT -5
I do think this era should just end here and then have a GREAT new album prepared for late next year. I don't really think she is overexposed so much as just the era feels over. I don't think the last two cds have been weak, but I think some of the single choices have been really disappointing-passing up better songs for more predictable ones. I really hope they have a fabulous line-up of some of her best songs ever for the first three singles from the next cd.
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Post by Black Jesus on Jan 2, 2011 15:23:39 GMT -5
I don't really think she is overexposed so much as just the era feels over. I agree that the era really does feel over. MS has struggled. A lot of artists don't release 5 singles from an album unless it's a really good album. 5 singles is a lot and it's dragging this album out. Similar thing happened with "Alejandro" from GaGa's TFM. Once it reached the #4 peak on radio and struggled to get higher, it was evident that the era should be ending, especially after Carrie having 3 successful songs on country radio.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jan 2, 2011 15:54:50 GMT -5
For me it's not about the era being over or not. It's about releasing what should be released. SWISLY deserves a release. It's an amazing song that I feel needs to be put out there for people to hear in a big way. I could care less what album or era the song is off of, it's a great song that I think should be released. CR followed a similar time line with 5 singles, and I think this era could benefit from 5 as well. A single release soon after MS's peak would have the 5th single peaking later in the Spring. That would leave plenty of time for a short hiatus before the lead single from album #4 is released. I also think SWISLY would be a great way to close out perhaps Carrie's weakest album era.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jan 2, 2011 16:27:00 GMT -5
That is why I am frustrated at some of the single choices :( Some songs that SHOULD be heard won't be now. Even if they are released they will most likely not get near the attention they should.
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Post by Mack on Jan 2, 2011 16:56:55 GMT -5
She's been all over everything and honestly, I'm getting a bit sick of her This coming from a GaGa fan? .....
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Post by Black Jesus on Jan 2, 2011 19:47:33 GMT -5
She's been all over everything and honestly, I'm getting a bit sick of her This coming from a GaGa fan? ..... GaGa's only had one album out. Her era has been similar to Carrie's "Some Hearts" era where she was winning award after award. I'm not bashing her and I'm sorry if you saw it that way. And to be quite honest, since you brought it up, in my opinion GaGa is much more an interesting character than Carrie is which is why I didn't mind it this album around.
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Post by #brayden on Jan 2, 2011 20:48:37 GMT -5
Similar thing happened with "Alejandro" from GaGa's TFM. Once it reached the #4 peak on radio and struggled to get higher, it was evident that the era should be ending, especially after Carrie having 3 successful songs on country radio. What's your point? That as soon as a single doesn't hit #1 it's time to end the era? If so, that's terrible logic. 'Mama's Song' is ~likely~ going to hit #2 on BB this upcoming week, and it still has a chance at hitting #1. It's not a very good chance, but it could happen. Regardless, 'MS' has done great considering the large amount of competition it's had in getting this far. And I think it's kind of stupid of you to call this single unsuccessful and a struggle... especially since, in the end, it managed to overcome the odds.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jan 2, 2011 20:55:18 GMT -5
Similar thing happened with "Alejandro" from GaGa's TFM. Once it reached the #4 peak on radio and struggled to get higher, it was evident that the era should be ending, especially after Carrie having 3 successful songs on country radio. What's your point? That as soon as a single doesn't hit #1 it's time to end the era? If so, that's terrible logic. 'Mama's Song' is ~likely~ going to hit #2 on BB this upcoming week, and it still has a chance at hitting #1. It's not a very good chance, but it could happen. Regardless, 'MS' has done great considering the large amount of competition it's had in getting this far. And I think it's kind of stupid of you to call this single unsuccessful and a struggle... especially since, in the end, it managed to overcome the odds. <3 I agree. This single is a success considering all the obstacles... It had little fan support to begin with, although I'm sure the fans still supported it at radio. Critics hated it, and it had huge competition on the chart. #1 or not, it's a success. I do think it will go #1 sometime mid-month as Carrie has a co-hosting gig with Lon Helton possibly implying that that's the week of the big push, if not then, this coming week. Regardless, it's a success and I'm proud of it, no matter how much I dislike the song. Carrie could make it up to the fans by releasing SWISLY. Not only is it a popular choice, but it would give the fans a nice break considering it would probably hit #1 with little effort by the fans. With that said, I'd still request it as most fans probably would anyway... IDK why I went on this rant, but the point it, MS has done well and deservingly so in my opinion.
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Post by carriefisher on Jan 3, 2011 0:11:43 GMT -5
When do they announce the presenters for the Golden Globes? I could see them giving Carrie a presenter slot with maybe Christina Aguilera or someone like that, given that they are both very big stars.
^I think Play On is a very good album, but Carrie's team made some big mistakes in single's choices this era, unfortunately. I agree that if they release SWISLY or even What Can I Say next, they can redeem themselves a bit in the minds of the voters and industry after Mama's Song. Not that Mama's Song is terrible, but it doesn't show Carrie's songwriting talent in its best light.
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Post by strikeleo on Jan 3, 2011 0:23:19 GMT -5
When do they announce the presenters for the Golden Globes? I could see them giving Carrie a presenter slot with maybe Christina Aguilera or someone like that, given that they are both very big stars. ^I think Play On is a very good album, but Carrie's team made some big mistakes in single's choices this era, unfortunately. I agree that if they release SWISLY or even What Can I Say next, they can redeem themselves a bit in the minds of the voters and industry after Mama's Song. Not that Mama's Song is terrible, but it doesn't show Carrie's songwriting talent in its best light. The only thing they got it right was Cowboy Casanova, tbh! TH was a mistake, even if it showcased her songwriting abilities, what a boring song! Undo It wasn't that much of a mistake, I mean, personally, not my type of song, but it was clearly the 'radio material song which will explode once its released' track of the cd. And then they made their second mistake, with Mama's song, It's a beautiful track, just not single worthy. Had they released Quitter, What Can I say or even Songs Like This, they could've had that hit that defines an era! So far, 10 years from now when Carrie is in her 10th cd or so, I wouldn't really remember this era at all, tbh with you guys! I would look back and think: Oh, remember when she exploded with Before He Cheats? God, that girl was everywhere. Soon enough she started fading because of her label, and then she really didn't have many memorable hits, I liked Cowboy Casanova but compared to what it could've done, that track was a disappointment!
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Post by misterscribbs on Jan 3, 2011 0:40:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I pretty much agree with everything said here.
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Post by realityBITES on Jan 3, 2011 0:45:24 GMT -5
When do they announce the presenters for the Golden Globes? I could see them giving Carrie a presenter slot with maybe Christina Aguilera or someone like that, given that they are both very big stars. ^I think Play On is a very good album, but Carrie's team made some big mistakes in single's choices this era, unfortunately. I agree that if they release SWISLY or even What Can I Say next, they can redeem themselves a bit in the minds of the voters and industry after Mama's Song. Not that Mama's Song is terrible, but it doesn't show Carrie's songwriting talent in its best light. The only thing they got it right was Cowboy Casanova, tbh! TH was a mistake, even if it showcased her songwriting abilities, what a boring song! Undo It wasn't that much of a mistake, I mean, personally, not my type of song, but it was clearly the 'radio material song which will explode once its released' track of the cd. And then they made their second mistake, with Mama's song, It's a beautiful track, just not single worthy. Had they released Quitter, What Can I say or even Songs Like This, they could've had that hit that defines an era! So far, 10 years from now when Carrie is in her 10th cd or so, I wouldn't really remember this era at all, tbh with you guys! I would look back and think: Oh, remember when she exploded with Before He Cheats? God, that girl was everywhere. Soon enough she started fading because of her label, and then she really didn't have many memorable hits, I liked Cowboy Casanova but compared to what it could've done, that track was a disappointment! I think she'll always be known as the BHC and JTTW girl. They were such huge hits, and it would be very hard to match that kind of success again. I guess it's a double-edge sword -- having your career song on your very first album. Almost anything else will pale in comparison, but without them, would she be as big of a star as she is?
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Post by strikeleo on Jan 3, 2011 0:50:02 GMT -5
The only thing they got it right was Cowboy Casanova, tbh! TH was a mistake, even if it showcased her songwriting abilities, what a boring song! Undo It wasn't that much of a mistake, I mean, personally, not my type of song, but it was clearly the 'radio material song which will explode once its released' track of the cd. And then they made their second mistake, with Mama's song, It's a beautiful track, just not single worthy. Had they released Quitter, What Can I say or even Songs Like This, they could've had that hit that defines an era! So far, 10 years from now when Carrie is in her 10th cd or so, I wouldn't really remember this era at all, tbh with you guys! I would look back and think: Oh, remember when she exploded with Before He Cheats? God, that girl was everywhere. Soon enough she started fading because of her label, and then she really didn't have many memorable hits, I liked Cowboy Casanova but compared to what it could've done, that track was a disappointment! I think she'll always be known as the BHC and JTTW girl. They were such huge hits, and it would be very hard to match that kind of success again. I guess it's a double-edge sword -- having your career song on your very first album. Almost anything else will pale in comparison, but without them, would she be as big of a star as she is? Honestly, I'm tempted to think had she not strayed away from the pop scene, she'd be remember as much more, just like Taylor Swift is not remembered by Teardrops on my guitar. Unfortunately, she did back away from it, which is a shame really. Carrie could be as talked about today as she was back then, but somehow her team failed to see that :(
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Post by justlurkingaround on Jan 3, 2011 14:47:10 GMT -5
Mama's Song has done its job. It's a successful personal single that overcame odds and has a big chance of hitting #1 this weekend. As for a fifth single, I'm a person who wants an uptempo. But I don't mind Someday When I Stop Loving You even though it's not my favorite. Simply because I want Carrie to be critically acclaimed and if MS can do this well at country radio, one can only imagine what SWISLY can achieve.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jan 3, 2011 15:22:15 GMT -5
Carrie Underwood is guaranteed a #2 placing for the next chart.
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Post by tsr on Jan 3, 2011 17:38:25 GMT -5
I guess I'm a little late, but she looks SMOKING in those pictures!
On the topic of the 5th single (assuming there will be one), I want either SLT or SWISLY (both of which should have already been released and should have been multi-week #1s, IMO); I don't really care which one. To be honest, I feel like the label skipped over SO many great songs this era and just went with the safe choice with almost every single release.
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Post by sugarandspice on Jan 3, 2011 19:12:10 GMT -5
I think it's time to wrap this era up. I love me some Carrie but this album was, as others have said, weak.
It feels to me that she's fallen into the inspirational ballad trap that Martina McBride is so fond of. She needs to go back to having fun with her music and I'd actually kill for Taylor Swift to write a song for her. Taylor writes good, relatabale music with crossover potential, but Carrie would add her great vocals on top of that.
Carrie needs to aim more for the younger market. SH was absolutely perfect, IMO. Even the weak songs were ok to listen to if you were listening to the album all the way through. CR was good, but I honestly can't remember anything about that album except "So Small" and even that took some effort.
Play On was just very, very weak outside of Cowboy Casanova, and even that was a total missed opportunity at regaining the pop audience she once had.
She needs to make a much better album next time around to recapture that magic.
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Post by Gravity. on Jan 3, 2011 19:32:15 GMT -5
I disagree, sugarandspice. I believe that Play On is her best album yet. I feel like Carrie has finally found her sweet spot, and it produced some great songs. "What Can I Say," "Someday When I....," "Quitter," and "Look At Me" are among the best of her career. The single choices were completely wrong this era, but that's just how it goes sometimes.
I don't think that Carrie wants, or needs, the pop audience. She's ruling country and on the track to being an icon there.
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Post by sugarandspice on Jan 3, 2011 19:37:07 GMT -5
The critics, and sales, disagree with you, but to each their own.
Metacritic scores for Carrie:
Some Hearts: N/A Carnival Ride: 72 Play On: 54
Sales: Some Hearts: 7 million Carnival Ride: 3 million Play On: 2 million
Personally, I think Carrie has become predictable. Time to shake it up, or else we can all accurately predict what her next album will be.
There will be:
A Man Bashing Uptempo Several Inspirational ballads about Jesus Tons of Filler
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Post by Typo on Jan 3, 2011 19:58:15 GMT -5
Carrie needs to aim more for the younger market. No. She doesn't. That would be stupid, Carrie isn't stupid. ...a total missed opportunity at regaining the pop audience she once had. Carrie has no desire to be a popstar, therefore she's never going to 'regain' the pop audience she once had. This emphasis on obtaining a crossover hit every album needs to just die off. It's not happening. Judging by your comments, I don't think you know the least about Carrie. Probably best you just stick with those critically acclaimed Katy Perry albums.
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Post by Gravity. on Jan 3, 2011 20:01:32 GMT -5
The critics, and sales, disagree with you, but to each their own. Metacritic scores for Carrie:Some Hearts: N/A Carnival Ride: 72 Play On: 54 Sales: Some Hearts: 7 million Carnival Ride: 3 million Play On: 2 million Personally, I think Carrie has become predictable. Time to shake it up, or else we can all accurately predict what her next album will be. There will be: A Man Bashing Uptempo Several Inspirational ballads about Jesus Tons of Filler Cool story, bro. I didn't ask for the scores though. I was using my own judgment.
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Post by _adriano. on Jan 3, 2011 20:31:32 GMT -5
I honestly think Carrie (or at least her artist integrity) would be lost if some people here were on her management staff.
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