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Post by cufan7 on Aug 1, 2011 21:03:38 GMT -5
And to add to the debat of Gimmick Gaga and Adele, it just needs to stop. Adele sells off of pure talent. Can't say the same for Gaga... End. Gaga sells off of pure talent and image...End. #StayMad Not hatin' just statin'. #KeepDoingPull-Ups
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Post by texasdevil on Aug 1, 2011 23:38:46 GMT -5
Does anyone have an mp3 of Adele's concert from the iTunes london thing, I have bought the whole album on itunes but that was only 6 of the songs, I would love the whole concert for my ipod. I'd prefer mp3 but mp4 would work if that's all there is... And to add to the debat of Gimmick Gaga and Adele, it just needs to stop. Adele sells off of pure talent. Can't say the same for Gaga... End. It's only six songs long, hence it being an EP and not a full blown live album. Six songs is better than nothing.
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Post by cufan7 on Aug 2, 2011 0:12:21 GMT -5
Does anyone have an mp3 of Adele's concert from the iTunes london thing, I have bought the whole album on itunes but that was only 6 of the songs, I would love the whole concert for my ipod. I'd prefer mp3 but mp4 would work if that's all there is... And to add to the debat of Gimmick Gaga and Adele, it just needs to stop. Adele sells off of pure talent. Can't say the same for Gaga... End. It's only six songs long, hence it being an EP and not a full blown live album. Six songs is better than nothing. Point? Yeah it's better than nothing but if the whole thing is available that would be even better. :)
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Post by darko95 on Aug 2, 2011 3:03:37 GMT -5
Whoever said Adele is a gimmick should be banned from this board.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 2, 2011 3:27:35 GMT -5
Does anyone have an mp3 of Adele's concert from the iTunes london thing, I have bought the whole album on itunes but that was only 6 of the songs, I would love the whole concert for my ipod. I'd prefer mp3 but mp4 would work if that's all there is... And to add to the debat of Gimmick Gaga and Adele, it just needs to stop. Adele sells off of pure talent. Can't say the same for Gaga... End. You can't be defensive of one and then throw the same statement out there for someone else and expect it to stand.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 3, 2011 10:25:26 GMT -5
"21" has been certified 3xp by the RIAA.
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Post by nightshade on Aug 3, 2011 13:34:40 GMT -5
Fall back. GaGa is an international pop artist. Pop music like hers isn't going to instantly sell itself. ADELE is a gimmick. Wait, so someone who just sings amazingly with simple music is a gimmick and Lady Gaga with her army of tricks ISN'T? You've got that exactly the wrong way round. Oh wait where exactly did I say GaGa isn't using gimmicks or isn't a gimmick? That's right, I didn't say that. Fall back. GaGa is an international pop artist. Pop music like hers isn't going to instantly sell itself. ADELE is a gimmick. Why put down ADELE for writing music that connects with the general public? Honestly, I don't see how she can be considered gimmicky. Oh I don't recall putting down ADELE. Mind showing me? Fall back. GaGa is an international pop artist. Pop music like hers isn't going to instantly sell itself. ADELE is a gimmick. I am huge Gaga fan (seeing the Monster Ball on several occasions), but why critic Adele? Adele is AWESOME!!!!! Not critiquing ADELE. It's just a fact. Love ADELE. Purchased 21 the week it was released in the States. I'm interested in reading your definition of what a 'gimmick' is, if it's ok with you an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, especially one designed to attract attention or increase appeal. Fall back. GaGa is an international pop artist. Pop music like hers isn't going to instantly sell itself. ADELE is a gimmick. Oh, phlease, GaGa is the biggest gimmick music has seen in decades. Do you think Adele has had a lot of promotion. On other board some people say she's had very little, but I remember she 's had a lot of it, she's been everywhere. Do you agree? And what does GaGa have to do with ADELE being gimmicky? Why is this suddenly Gaga vs Adele? One of the more pointless comparisons? Why must one be a gimmick and the other not? You can ask doak who pitted them against each other. They're both gimmicky. ^ I think comparisons arise from how drastically different their approaches are: Adele just stands there and sings. She only uses her voice and a microphone. Lady Gaga relies on full blown theatrics. And they're both seeing great success (albeit not at the same level) so I guess you can somewhat compare. Lady GaGa doesn't rely on full blown theatrics, you fool. Look at her performance on The View. Tell me how much theatrics she put into that performance. B Y E. Whoever said Adele is a gimmick should be banned from this board. Try to ban me, big bell pepper nose.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Aug 3, 2011 13:43:01 GMT -5
Okay, I'm excited again. I'm seeing her in two weeks!! Bitch better take care of that throat!
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Post by cufan7 on Aug 3, 2011 15:30:39 GMT -5
Anyone calling Adele a gimmick is a joke. As gimmicks are what people do to gain attention. Have you seen interviews with her? To me it's as if she doesn't want all the attention, the fame, but just to write good music. She has terrible stage fright for crying out loud. With that said it sure sounds to me like she wants all the attention on her...
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Post by nightshade on Aug 3, 2011 16:55:06 GMT -5
Anyone calling Adele a gimmick is a joke. As gimmicks are what people do to gain attention. Have you seen interviews with her? To me it's as if she doesn't want all the attention, the fame, but just to write good music. She has terrible stage fright for crying out loud. With that said it sure sounds to me like she wants all the attention on her... Just because she doesn't want the attention doesn't mean that what she does or actually does NOT do makes her someone that gets attention drawn to her. Because of her being very low-key and not very into the fame makes her as an artist far more interesting and I find that to be gimmicky. Not saying it's intentional though. It's just how it is. ;)
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Post by cufan7 on Aug 3, 2011 21:17:53 GMT -5
Anyone calling Adele a gimmick is a joke. As gimmicks are what people do to gain attention. Have you seen interviews with her? To me it's as if she doesn't want all the attention, the fame, but just to write good music. She has terrible stage fright for crying out loud. With that said it sure sounds to me like she wants all the attention on her... Just because she doesn't want the attention doesn't mean that what she does or actually does NOT do makes her someone that gets attention drawn to her. Because of her being very low-key and not very into the fame makes her as an artist far more interesting and I find that to be gimmicky. Not saying it's intentional though. It's just how it is. ;) If that is what you consider gimmicky then Taylor being blonde, Kelly being larger, and Carrie being a vegan are gimmicky too. Oh, so is Beyonce being black... ???
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Post by Caviar on Aug 3, 2011 21:39:51 GMT -5
Just watched her iTunes festival and it's amazing.
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Post by cufan7 on Aug 3, 2011 22:06:50 GMT -5
Just watched her iTunes festival and it's amazing. It is so good. "Take It All" killed me. :'(
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Post by Caviar on Aug 3, 2011 23:18:10 GMT -5
Yes, indeed. However surprisingly I enjoyed Chasing Pavements even though I never liked that song.
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Post by darko95 on Aug 4, 2011 3:55:05 GMT -5
THIS BETTER WIN ALBUM OF THE YEAR
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Post by nightshade on Aug 4, 2011 4:22:55 GMT -5
Just because she doesn't want the attention doesn't mean that what she does or actually does NOT do makes her someone that gets attention drawn to her. Because of her being very low-key and not very into the fame makes her as an artist far more interesting and I find that to be gimmicky. Not saying it's intentional though. It's just how it is. ;) If that is what you consider gimmicky then Taylor being blonde, Kelly being larger, and Carrie being a vegan are gimmicky too. Oh, so is Beyonce being black... ??? Oh the ignorance of being a Larry stan. Ignoring you from now on.
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Post by cufan7 on Aug 4, 2011 23:54:22 GMT -5
THIS BETTER WIN ALBUM OF THE YEAR No chance in hell it won't. :)
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Post by kirby2725 on Aug 5, 2011 9:45:35 GMT -5
THIS BETTER WIN ALBUM OF THE YEAR No chance in hell it won't. :) It's a shame because I really think Kanye deserves it. And even Beyoncé over Adele... But personally I think artists who take risks should be rewarded. '21', although an impeccable album, is very safe to me.
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Post by blue in moonlight on Aug 5, 2011 10:09:52 GMT -5
No chance in hell it won't. :) It's a shame because I really think Kanye deserves it. And even Beyoncé over Adele... But personally I think artists who take risks should be rewarded. '21', although an impeccable album, is very safe to me. Yes to Kanye but hell no to Beyonce (although I like her album more than I did initially). Neither stand a chance against 21 though.
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Post by floridagrl on Aug 5, 2011 10:54:19 GMT -5
"21" has been certified 3xp by the RIAA. Yay!
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Post by hidizzyguy on Aug 5, 2011 11:20:31 GMT -5
I think 21 did great for her and her success, and it was obviously a mega-seller. In terms of growth, and quality, Kanye and Beyonce's album show more of that as compared to their previous albums than 21 did over 19.
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Post by Hook on Aug 5, 2011 13:29:01 GMT -5
It's a shame because I really think Kanye deserves it. And even Beyoncé over Adele... But personally I think artists who take risks should be rewarded. '21', although an impeccable album, is very safe to me. I disagree. Risks shouldn't matter at all when it comes to an award. The quality of an album should be the basis for voting, period. If voters think 21 is better than MBDTF and 4, then they should vote for it. Just because someone took a risk doesn't mean that they are automatically better than someone who supposedly played it safe.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Aug 5, 2011 13:30:53 GMT -5
MBDTF > 21
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Aug 5, 2011 13:53:55 GMT -5
"Someone Like You" update:
#21 on Triple A (holy crap) and #29 on Hot AC. #57 on Pop (adds date has been postponed to August 16) and #38 on iTunes.
#73 on the Hot 100 this week with a potentially huge rise ahead
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Post by blue in moonlight on Aug 5, 2011 14:09:29 GMT -5
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Post by Oprah on Aug 5, 2011 14:18:42 GMT -5
I love Beyonce and 4 was her best album, but haaaaaaaaale no @ it being AOTY worthy. A nominee, sure, but it doesn't stand a chance at winning.
21 is good, but it doesn't really have anything on MBDTF. The reviews speak for themselves. It'll probably go to 21 because it's a bigger commercial hit, Kanye has a bad reputation, and the Grammy's have never shown much love for Hip-hop, but it really doesn't deserve it.
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Post by blue in moonlight on Aug 5, 2011 14:45:26 GMT -5
Doesn't the NARAS eligibility period end next month? To be honest, I think 21 has it in the bag already barring some kind of miracle in the next couple of months. I would be kind of shocked if ADELE didn't win AOTY, ROTY and SOTY. She's a previous BNA winner who has more than lived up to expectations for her sophomore album. NARAS will probably break their necks to give her a sweep.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Aug 5, 2011 16:02:00 GMT -5
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Go to the Tony Bennett thread.
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Post by blue in moonlight on Aug 5, 2011 16:29:50 GMT -5
^ Go to the Tony Bennett thread. Oh snap! I spoke to soon. Things are going to get interesting: "Stranger in Paradise" (Robert Wright, George Forrest, Alexander Borodin) (with Andrea Bocelli) "Don't Get Around Much Anymore" (Duke Ellington, Bob Russell) (with Michael Bublé) "When Do the Bells Ring for Me" (Charles DeForest) (with Mariah Carey) "Watch What Happens" (Norman Gimbel, Michel Legrand) (with Natalie Cole) "The Girl I Love" (George Gershwin, Ira Gershwin) (with Sheryl Crow) "How Do You Keep the Music Playing?" (Alan Bergman, Marilyn Bergman, Legrand) (with Aretha Franklin) "This Is All I Ask" (Gordon Jenkins) (with Josh Groban) "The Way You Look Tonight" (Jerome Kern, Dorothy Fields) (with Faith Hill) "Speak Low" (Kurt Weill, Ogden Nash) (with Norah Jones) "The Lady Is a Tramp" (Richard Rodgers, Lorenz Hart) (with Lady Gaga) "Blue Velvet" (Bernie Wayne, Lee Morris) (with k.d. lang) "One for My Baby (and One More for the Road)" (Harold Arlen, Johnny Mercer) (with John Mayer) "On the Sunny Side of the Street" (Jimmy McHugh, Fields) (with Willie Nelson) "Who Can I Turn To?" (Leslie Bricusse, Anthony Newley) (with Queen Latifah) "Yesterday I Heard the Rain" (Canache Armando Manzanero, Gene Lees) (with Alejandro Sanz) "It Had to Be You" (Isham Jones, Gus Kahn) (with Carrie Underwood) "Body and Soul" (Edward Heyman, Robert Sour, Frank Eyton, Johnny Green) (with Amy Winehouse) That's a shitload of legends/Grammy favorites.
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Aug 5, 2011 16:38:45 GMT -5
Every artist has a gimmick. Y'all can hang that up.
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