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Post by franklin on Nov 23, 2011 20:36:34 GMT -5
Her strolling was fine. WDKY is not mic stand type song. KTHXBYE.
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Post by franklin on Nov 23, 2011 20:37:19 GMT -5
I wondered if they shortened it to make it easier on her. No. It was obviously due to time constraints. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 20:39:28 GMT -5
The chorus has a lot of words and very little break before the multiple "what doesn't kill you"s. I thought she was amazing but it seemed to be nearly cut in half with no 2nd verse/2nd chorus. The second verse if my favourite part of the song.... We'll have to wait until VH1 Divas for the possibility of a full, non-acoustic HQ 'Stronger' performance I suppose. I repeat, it's not that difficult. I don't have Kelly's tone but I sing it just fine.  . Oh really? I would like to hear that!  |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 23, 2011 20:45:17 GMT -5
I don't think she has quite figured out how to sing it yet. I also didn't think the dress was flattering and some of the graphics were bad. But, I did like seeing a more produced performance from her and I love the song. Good debut and it will get better.
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Post by james on Nov 23, 2011 20:45:37 GMT -5
I wondered if they shortened it to make it easier on her. No. It was obviously due to time constraints. For such an important performance I'm sure RCA could of demanded a premier performance slot / time. After-all what's an extra minute. However I don't think an extra chorus would of gone down too well. Ya'll saying how the song is going to rocket, well let's see. That was the objective of this performance was it not? X-Factor Australia showed marketers just how to do that. This and the AMA's have not matched the hype that X Factor Australia and the NRL performance generated. |
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Post by franklin on Nov 23, 2011 20:49:08 GMT -5
Yea but, it's not even technically released yet. The shortened performance fits with everything else RCA has done so far. It appears they don't want WDKY released until January, so it doesn't interfere with the freeze. Maybe they were okay with a shortened version just for some buzz.
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Post by Illusions on Nov 23, 2011 20:50:08 GMT -5
#99 on iTunes right now.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 23, 2011 20:51:18 GMT -5
Getting an extra minute may have been more of a struggle than you would think. They may have had to fight for even a performance at all.
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Post by franklin on Nov 23, 2011 20:51:57 GMT -5
It rose 8 positions in less than 45 minutes :'( LEGEND. |
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Post by Jack on Nov 23, 2011 20:52:36 GMT -5
Her strolling was fine. WDKY is not mic stand type song. KTHXBYE. Neither is Since U Been Gone boi, but she showed you don't have to stand still just because you have a stand. |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 23, 2011 20:54:25 GMT -5
People are definitely reacting to WDKY. I think it is a good sign that it is already doing decently on Itunes just from hype and (now) one half-performance.
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Post by franklin on Nov 23, 2011 20:55:09 GMT -5
...But she took the mic outta the stand anyways
I see ur point though, she has more confidence with the stand i think.
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Post by Illusions on Nov 23, 2011 20:58:50 GMT -5
Better quality.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Nov 23, 2011 21:03:01 GMT -5
She needs to get the chorus together on WDKY. I never thought I'd say this about her at this stage in her career, but she kinda sounded a mess in certain parts of the chorus in that performance. She needs to figure that out.
And like STRONGER said, it isn't the amount of words in the chorus or the breathing.
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Post by Jack on Nov 23, 2011 21:07:40 GMT -5
...But she took the mic outta the stand anyways I see ur point though, she has more confidence with the stand i think.Good to know we're on the same page. Even if you're at the beginning of it and I'm at the end. I do think she's lacked confidence and conviction with the last two performances. Almost like she's a bit hesitant. Pep up that swag KC. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 21:08:30 GMT -5
I need a little bit of the passion and fire the old Kelly had:
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Post by lufflyness on Nov 23, 2011 21:11:22 GMT -5
She needs to get the chorus together on WDKY. I never thought I'd say this about her at this stage in her career, but she kinda sounded a mess in certain parts of the chorus in that performance. She needs to figure that out. And like STRONGER said, it isn't the amount of words in the chorus or the breathing. ...then what is it? I'm wondering what you guys are hearing when you listen to the chorus... Even without hearing her sing it live I knew it would be difficult. The lines practically run on top of each other and are all belted. I'm surprised she is able to sing the whole thing, when I first heard it I thought she and J&K would have to end up alternating them so she had time to breath. |
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Post by maria4hitz on Nov 23, 2011 21:11:55 GMT -5
...But she took the mic outta the stand anyways I see ur point though, she has more confidence with the stand i think.Good to know we're on the same page. Even if you're at the beginning of it and I'm at the end. I do think she's lacked confidence and conviction with the last two performances. Almost like she's a bit hesitant. Pep up that swag KC. I think she was very nervous. |
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Post by Jack on Nov 23, 2011 21:12:40 GMT -5
I need a little bit of the passion and fire the old Kelly had. I don't think she's lacking in either, I think it's more of a nervousness/hesitancy thing she's been falling foul of. Nothing TOO noticeable, she's just not as ease as she has been. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 21:13:46 GMT -5
She could just make the chorus slower and have the backup singers and crowd sing the last words... Stronger, fighter... Or the other way around...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 21:19:09 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this performance. It had its flaws (which I'll point out below) but nothing major. The chorus has a lot of words and very little break before the multiple "what doesn't kill you"s. I thought she was amazing but it seemed to be nearly cut in half with no 2nd verse/2nd chorus. The second verse if my favourite part of the song.... We'll have to wait until VH1 Divas for the possibility of a full, non-acoustic HQ 'Stronger' performance I suppose. I repeat, it's not that difficult. I don't have Kelly's tone but I sing it just fine. This is the only song she has a problem with and I am failing to see the reason why. Because what is difficult for you is not what is difficult for Kelly (and vice versa). People tend to equate the idea of a 'difficult' song with range, but Kelly has never had issues with that (and this song is not all that rangy compared to her other stuff anyway). Kelly's issue here is breath control. I'd actually put WDKY in the same category with DLMSY in that Kelly is having a hard time figuring out how to get in all the words while finding enough places to breathe. But at least with DLMSY she was able to cop out of it since it was never a single. She has to deal with it now. So anyway, things I liked about the performance: - the artwork was cute and fun - she looked great; loved the dress - when you could see her face she was clearly into the performance, smiling and having fun Things that I would have done differently: - even though I did love her outfit, I was really hoping she would come out in some pants/cute top/sneakers or flat shoes and just kill it with her energy, VMAs-2005 style. I love Sexydivelly but I wanted her to move around more and those heels were not allowing it - at the end of the bridge, going into the hook, she clearly runs out of breath on "stronger." What I would prefer is that after singing "in the end..." she takes a breather and lets the backup singers come in with "what doesn't kill you makes you" and she can come in on the word "stronger" with a big belt. - on that note, she's got to learn that she doesn't have to sing every word or syllable. Someone else had suggested this earlier - once the last chorus comes in she can get away with just singing "fighter...lighter...lonely...gone...stronger!...stronger!..." while letting the backup singers handle the whole hook. A backing track for this also isn't a bad idea either, though Kelly gives me the impression that she would never want to use a backing track. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 21:21:36 GMT -5
I thought she sounded great except in the beginning it was so/so. I didn't like the graphics though.
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Post by james on Nov 23, 2011 21:37:07 GMT -5
I need a little bit of the passion and fire the old Kelly had. I don't think she's lacking in either, I think it's more of a nervousness/hesitancy thing she's been falling foul of. Nothing TOO noticeable, she's just not as ease as she has been. She won American Idol, has performed at the Grammys, performed in front of 80,000 people at the NRL Grand Final this year & is getting along with her label. So I don't understand where that would be coming from, unless she isn't comfortable performing the song itself. There is so much time for rehearsals ect, you think they would of nailed a 2 minute performance by now. |
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Post by 1shot on Nov 23, 2011 21:39:47 GMT -5
The chorus has a lot of words and very little break before the multiple "what doesn't kill you"s. I thought she was amazing but it seemed to be nearly cut in half with no 2nd verse/2nd chorus. The second verse if my favourite part of the song.... We'll have to wait until VH1 Divas for the possibility of a full, non-acoustic HQ 'Stronger' performance I suppose. I repeat, it's not that difficult. I don't have Kelly's tone but I sing it just fine. I BEG OF YOU to post yourself singing the song, because I call total and absolute BS on your part. If an Idol winner (and arguably, the most technically skilled idol winner at that) is having trouble with the song, then I sincerely doubt that the song is as easy to sing as you say it is. |
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Nov 23, 2011 21:49:00 GMT -5
Some of you are overreacting to me & STRONGER (lufflyness and 1shot). Take it down a notch. kthxbai
What I meant to say in my post was that it was the breathing and not necessarily the amount of words.
Like Touch the Fire Twice said, people have their own individual struggles. With this song, it is her breathing. I can't personally see what is so hard for her from a breath control standpoint. I'm not a great singer nor do I have great breath control, but the chorus doesn't trip me up at all. It's an individual thing. No need to pounce.
I'm not sure about her history with any breath control struggles, but if it was something apparent before, then it will always be a problem no matter the amount of training. For many singers, it's just their Achilles heel.
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Post by bb on Nov 23, 2011 21:53:58 GMT -5
She needs to get the chorus together on WDKY. I never thought I'd say this about her at this stage in her career, but she kinda sounded a mess in certain parts of the chorus in that performance. She needs to figure that out. And like STRONGER said, it isn't the amount of words in the chorus or the breathing. I probably disagree with this near 100% (not that you're wrong, I just disagree ). First of all, I loved the performance. She looked FANTASTIC (her hair looks amazing, long and beautiful, and the dress was more flattering than I would have expected), sounded good and nailed all the right notes at the right spots. It was the perfect hype performance: not giving everything into it, giving a little teaser, perfection. But it's a REALLY hard song. For the person saying they could sing it, I'd love to hear it. Seriously. Kelly is arguably the best vocalist in pop music, so... Anyway, she should probably do the adlibbing others have been recommending. And for God's sake, when she does perform this, don't make her wear heels and a tight dress. I loved Diva-Kelly for MKIA, but WDKY is such an anthem. Loved it. |
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Post by bigb0882 on Nov 23, 2011 22:02:44 GMT -5
Wow, based on the responses I thought she stunk up the joint big time! One of the better vocals she has given on this song for sure! She sounded great. Perfect? No, but then she almost always takes a while to get a song just right. You people need to calm down. Kelly has spoiled you all too much.
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Post by ƒreakshow on Nov 23, 2011 22:11:37 GMT -5
Wow, based on the responses I thought she stunk up the joint big time! One of the better vocals she has given on this song for sure! She sounded great. Perfect? No, but then she almost always takes a while to get a song just right. You people need to calm down. Kelly has spoiled you all too much. Yeah, it wasn't bad by any means. I wasn't that pleased with it, but I think the bad reactions here are just a bit much. Kelly has delivered some pretty bad performances from a vocal standpoint in the past, this wasn't even close to being like one of those. I don't get it. |
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Post by lufflyness on Nov 23, 2011 22:23:16 GMT -5
Some of you are overreacting to me & STRONGER (lufflyness and 1shot). Take it down a notch. kthxbai What I meant to say in my post was that it was the breathing and not necessarily the amount of words. Like Touch the Fire Twice said, people have their own individual struggles. With this song, it is her breathing. I can't personally see what is so hard for her from a breath control standpoint. I'm not a great singer nor do I have great breath control, but the chorus doesn't trip me up at all. It's an individual thing. No need to pounce. I'm not sure about her history with any breath control struggles, but if it was something apparent before, then it will always be a problem no matter the amount of training. For many singers, it's just their Achilles heel.  I was not pouncing but asking for you to expand on your opinion because it sounded like you said it wasn't about breathing. Anyway.... she had a similar problem with MKIA because of how wordy it was and she didn't know when to breath. Her first 2 or 3 performances were subpar but since then she has been performing it flawlessly almost every time. She'll probably get more comfortable with the breathing pattern in Stronger within a couple more performances. |
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Post by face on Nov 23, 2011 22:33:14 GMT -5
You people! :o It was a great performance. The only bad part was it happened right when the show started. I bet no one really saw it |
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I was not pouncing but asking for you to expand on your opinion because it sounded like you said it wasn't about breathing.