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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 16:16:51 GMT -5
Awesome for Taylor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Although her stealing a record from Shania makes me :'( |
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Post by ktucker13 on Nov 1, 2010 16:20:57 GMT -5
This is so exciting!
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Post by Mark on Nov 1, 2010 16:25:56 GMT -5
I agree. This would be exciting no matter who it was, but the fact that Taylor is my fave makes it so much more exciting  It just blows my mind that she can sell like she does. She basically defies all industry trends. |
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Post by Eqbk on Nov 1, 2010 16:28:17 GMT -5
So now that she's predicted to sell 1mil. I guess the next set of speculations are who she will beat. Will she beat Lil' Wayne? Nora Jones? Garth Brooks?
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Post by Mark on Nov 1, 2010 16:29:51 GMT -5
So now that she's predicted to sell 1mil. I guess the next set of speculations are who she will beat. Will she beat Lil' Wayne? Nora Jones? Garth Brooks? I think she'll definitely beat Lil Wayne. But the others, probably not. I see this CD going over one million, but not by much. |
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Post by Black Jesus on Nov 1, 2010 16:48:25 GMT -5
Awesome for Taylor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Although her stealing a record from Shania makes me :'( I have to agree. Shania is legendary but Taylor's writing is really good. Idk. I think Shania's music will live on more than Taylor's tho |
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Post by passionformusic on Nov 1, 2010 16:52:18 GMT -5
I think it is a well deserved success. Such a stellar album.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 1, 2010 17:05:54 GMT -5
Selling a million+ in 2010 is incredibly, incredibly impressive. To me, more impressive than some of the splashy debuts made in the late 90s/early 2000 when cd sales were super high. Taylor is just huge right now-I wonder how much this will sell in the end and if she will get another massive multi-format hit with this cd.
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Post by ontheroadwith on Nov 1, 2010 17:14:54 GMT -5
Could it be that 5 of the Top 10 albums on the Billboard 200 will be country albums?!? When is the last time that happened?
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Post by slicknickshady on Nov 1, 2010 18:47:20 GMT -5
Look. The truth is it is 2010. So the hyperbole of a label saying it's the equivalent of 2.3 in 2000 is just words.
In the record books it will go down as what it did and that will be below N'sync (Top Group First Week and Top Overall Week) Backstreet Boy's (They had one album do a ton first week i know), Eminem (Solo Artist and Male Solo Artist), and Spears (Female Solo Artist).
Swift will be the Country Record for first week most likely. It's a big time accomplishment what she is doing.
But this is safe..
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Post by kt1990 on Nov 1, 2010 18:55:22 GMT -5
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 1, 2010 18:58:54 GMT -5
Could it be that 5 of the Top 10 albums on the Billboard 200 will be country albums?!? When is the last time that happened? didnt it happen a week or two ago? country is what sells |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 19:17:20 GMT -5
I am going to go out on a limb abd say that selling 1 million in 2010 is the equivalent of selling 1 million in 2000.
This has only happened 15 times in 20 years, even in an up market, 1 million was not an everyday occurence
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Post by Haley on Nov 1, 2010 19:26:45 GMT -5
I am going to go out on a limb abd say that selling 1 million in 2010 is the equivalent of selling 1 million in 2000. This has only happened 15 times in 20 years, even in an up market, 1 million was not an everyday occurence To sell 1 million records is a rare occurrence, sure, but the figure itself is not comparable to ten years ago when yearly album sales were at 700+ million vs. 370 million just last year. So no, it's not the equivalent. |
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Post by when the pawn... on Nov 1, 2010 19:29:26 GMT -5
I am going to go out on a limb abd say that selling 1 million in 2010 is the equivalent of selling 1 million in 2000. This has only happened 15 times in 20 years, even in an up market, 1 million was not an everyday occurence But it happened 6 times in 2000 (NSYNC, Eminem, Britney, Limp Bizkit, BSB, Beatles unless I'm forgetting someone). I believe it happened twice in 2004 and once in 2005. It didn't happen in 2006, didn't happen in 2007, happened once (barely) in 2008, didn't happen in 2009 and is potentially happening once in 2010 (unless SuBo or Kanye can do it in the coming weeks). Two albums have had million-plus weeks in the last five years...one third the amount that had million-plus weeks in 2000. It's like saying 3 million copies total in 2010 is equivalent to selling 3 million copies in 2000...doesn't add up. |
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Post by Cerbius on Nov 1, 2010 19:34:20 GMT -5
I am going to go out on a limb abd say that selling 1 million in 2010 is the equivalent of selling 1 million in 2000. This has only happened 15 times in 20 years, even in an up market, 1 million was not an everyday occurence Opening with 1 million was certainly much more common back in the early 2000s when album sales were at its peak. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe 5 albums opened with 1 million+ back in 2000; the peak year for album sales. So no, selling 1 million in 2010 is certainly not the equivalent of selling 1 million in 2000. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 19:39:48 GMT -5
1 million then is 1 million now
It has been a rare occurence for 20 years
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Post by tsr on Nov 1, 2010 19:40:09 GMT -5
I am going to go out on a limb abd say that selling 1 million in 2010 is the equivalent of selling 1 million in 2000. This has only happened 15 times in 20 years, even in an up market, 1 million was not an everyday occurence Opening with 1 million was certainly much more common back in the early 2000s when album sales were at its peak. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe 5 albums opened with 1 million+ back in 2000; the peak year for album sales. So no, selling 1 million in 2010 is certainly not the equivalent of selling 1 million in 2000. Agreed. I firmly believe that if album sales were as strong today as they were back in the early 2000s, we would've seen Recovery and quite possibly Need You Now debut with more than a million sold. And I think Taylor's sales would be even higher. |
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Post by CammyCan on Nov 1, 2010 19:45:24 GMT -5
1 million then is 1 million now It has been a rare occurence for 20 years Yes. Obviously in absolute terms, one million sales in 2010 is equivalent to one million sales in 2000. In relative terms, one million sales in 2010 is greater than one million sales in 2000. |
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Post by slw84 on Nov 1, 2010 20:05:52 GMT -5
Looks like the Solo artist sales week Record is safe for Eminem. You will do anything just to add Eminem in a conversation...a mess. She wasn't even close or projected to be close to that record. Have a seat. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 20:17:59 GMT -5
through chart date 12/31/2000
1 million occurred a grand total of EIGHT times (obviously 8 times since - Taylor Swift being the 8th)
A rare occurence then a rare occurence now
If we say 1 million now is like like XXX million in 2000, what do you base that on?
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Post by slicknickshady on Nov 1, 2010 20:18:03 GMT -5
1 million then is 1 million now It has been a rare occurence for 20 years We agree. It's been a while. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 20:19:16 GMT -5
Looks like the Solo artist sales week Record is safe for Eminem. You will do anything just to add Eminem in a conversation...a mess. She wasn't even close or projected to be close to that record. Have a seat. The female mouseketeer sales record is safe too, so what? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 20:21:11 GMT -5
1 million then is 1 million now It has been a rare occurence for 20 years Yes. Obviously in absolute terms, one million sales in 2010 is equivalent to one million sales in 2000. In relative terms, one million sales in 2010 is greater than one million sales in 2000. I very much agree with you Cammy :). |
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Post by WotUNeed on Nov 1, 2010 20:39:23 GMT -5
through chart date 12/31/2000 1 million occurred a grand total of EIGHT times (obviously 8 times since - Taylor Swift being the 8th) A rare occurence then a rare occurence now If we say 1 million now is like like XXX million in 2000, what do you base that on? People are trying to apply the same basic concept behind such accepted relativistic principles as inflation. Think of it in those terms: $1,000,000.00 ten years ago carries the same absolute value as does $1,000,000.00 today; however, the relative buying power was different. Since the market itself also changes relative to the economic system, it is worthwhile to consider what sales of a million in this climate can be compared to in other buying climates. Is anybody saying that, had this album been released in a different year, it definitely would have sold x amount? No. We recognize there are other factors at play; still, approximating the impact by accounting for the decline in sales from one time to another is a valid way of doing rough comparisons and having meaningful discussion, caveats and all. |
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Post by renfield75 on Nov 1, 2010 20:50:26 GMT -5
1 million then is 1 million now It has been a rare occurence for 20 years We agree. It's been a while. So if Recovery had sold the exact same amount its first week this summer as the Marshall Mathers LP in 2000 you would find that a 100% apples-to-apples comparison? As everyone else has said, obviously 1 million copies is 1 million copies, no matter the time. And it's always been a rare, impressive feat. But you know what else was rare in 2000? Topping the Billboard 200 with under 100,000 copies. These days that's a fairly common occurrence. So to sell over 1 million copies, a feat that was difficult at the industry's peak, at a time when the record industry is at the lowest point in recorded history, is especially impressive. I'm not even particularly a fan of Taylor's...I find her songs repetitive and bland...but give the girl her due. |
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Post by neverduplicated on Nov 1, 2010 20:59:47 GMT -5
Those that are arguing there's no change in relative sales, I have a question for you. If NSync were at the height of their popularity right now and released an album ala No Strings Attached (not accounting for factors like what kind of music is popular right now), would it sell 2.4 million copies the first week? If Eminem released MMLP right now, would it sell 1.79 million copies this week? (I'll give you a hint - the answer to both is "no"). So how can possibly say that if the sales climate now was like it was in 2000, that Taylor would still just be selling one million? And lest we forget that in an age where people can just pick and choose songs from Itunes, in an age where album sales are plummeting, in an age where the #1 album of the year might not sell as much as the #10 album of 2000 - how much more impressive it is now to sell one million copies in a week. Yes, Eminem keeps his record. Britney keeps her record. NSync keep their record. But though the number is lower, Taylor's debut this week is just as remarkable as all of those were. Keep hatin' all you want, but in this current sales climate, Taylor's the only one who can come close to pulling off such a feat.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 21:14:41 GMT -5
If there was the right mix of marketing and public demand, 1 million is possible anytime. The marketing campaign behind this album is bringing people to the stores(with target bonus tracks and t-shirts and so-forth). The itunes setup worked like a charm here.
2.4 million is even possible again (but it would take a major event to do it)
Candle In The Wind moved 3.1 million copies in 1 week in 1997. Elton John was age 50 and the song was a cover version of something he already released. Obviously there was a major event tied to it. The point is.....IT IS POSSIBLE, EVEN TODAY
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 21:17:37 GMT -5
If Eminem released today or Britney released today or N Sync released today...I am not going to answer.
If a big time artist released today with the right marketing and setup to bring people into stores, 1 million is possible. (Lil Wayne in 2008 for example)
This is being proved now
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Post by 1shot on Nov 1, 2010 21:22:59 GMT -5
Of course it's possible, but are you even reading the other people's posts? My God!
They are simply saying that one million today is probably much more difficult to accomplish than it MIGHT have been in 2000 because that's when sales were at their peek!
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