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Post by Eloqueen™ on Oct 27, 2010 18:51:38 GMT -5
I'll never understand why the US has this obsession with Swift, her songs seem so mediocre. There will always be people who don't understand how artists are so successful, because people have different tastes. For instance, what you find "so mediocre", I find to be, by and large, well-crafted and extremely melodic. Different strokes.
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Post by slicknickshady on Oct 27, 2010 19:13:32 GMT -5
Seriously. You do know there is only like what 9 weeks left in the year? Taylor isnt catching Eminem. She's going to sell damn well. All of you are saying...people mad your faves can't outsell her.
Eminem did 1.7 million in a week with the MMLP. I'm good if Taylor does 950K. I'm good if Boyle does 950K. It Doesnt take away what Recovery has done. At the end of the day...Recovery will be the biggest selling album of the year.
Also i find it funny none of you think Eminem will have any sales impact during the holidays. Last i checked, Recovery will be available during the holidays. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2010 19:17:08 GMT -5
Seriously. You do know there is only like what 9 weeks left in the year? Taylor isnt catching Eminem. She's going to sell damn well. All of you are saying...people mad your faves can't outsell her. Eminem did 1.7 million in a week with the MMLP. I'm good if Taylor does 950K. I'm good if Boyle does 950K. It Doesnt take away what Recovery has done. At the end of the day...Recovery will be the biggest selling album of the year. Also i find it funny none of you think Eminem will have any sales impact during the holidays. Last i checked, Recovery will be available during the holidays. ;) Susan sold +3 million in 5 weeks alone. I'm sure Taylor could do more then that in 9 weeks :kii: and overtake Eminem.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Oct 27, 2010 19:17:53 GMT -5
Both Taylor and Susan are gonna outsell Em in a few weeks time :'( Eminem did 1.7 million in a week with the MMLP. released in 2000...
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 27, 2010 19:38:53 GMT -5
Swift was on her way to selling BIG way before Amazon sold her album for $3.99. Those of you trying to play it off like that's the reason her sales are going to be massive...look very desperate. Just accept it, she's outselling your favorite artists haha. 3.99 is the price of a single. They really need to put a star next to her name at this point. This is why I am concerned more about how much albums are bringing in money wise as opposed to how many copies are sold. Everyone can sell more at a cheaper price assuming people like the material.That would explain why Taylor is close to selling a million copies. What other big 500K+ titles were being sold for $3.99 at the time of their release?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2010 19:39:04 GMT -5
Seriously. You do know there is only like what 9 weeks left in the year? Taylor isnt catching Eminem. She's going to sell damn well. All of you are saying...people mad your faves can't outsell her. Eminem did 1.7 million in a week with the MMLP. I'm good if Taylor does 950K. I'm good if Boyle does 950K. It Doesnt take away what Recovery has done. At the end of the day...Recovery will be the biggest selling album of the year. Also i find it funny none of you think Eminem will have any sales impact during the holidays. Last i checked, Recovery will be available during the holidays. ;) Let's say we have the Susan Boyle effect like we had last year, with 500k/week for several weeks at a time 9 weeks is plenty of time to catch Eminem Enimen, has an older album now and will do something less than that It could catch Eminem before you know it
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Post by kt1990 on Oct 27, 2010 19:41:28 GMT -5
Susan Boyle is no way gonna do as well as y'all think. Trust. The gimmick's worn off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2010 19:42:48 GMT -5
If not Susan Boyle then Taylor Swift or someone else
Basically Eminem has not locked it up yet
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Oct 27, 2010 19:43:28 GMT -5
people need to hurry up and realise that miss boyle isnt going to sell like she did last year.
its Em v Taylor
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Post by CammyCan on Oct 27, 2010 19:43:40 GMT -5
Swift was on her way to selling BIG way before Amazon sold her album for $3.99. Those of you trying to play it off like that's the reason her sales are going to be massive...look very desperate. Just accept it, she's outselling your favorite artists haha. 3.99 is the price of a single. They really need to put a star next to her name at this point. This is why I am concerned more about how much albums are bringing in money wise as opposed to how many copies are sold. Everyone can sell more at a cheaper price assuming people like the material.That would explain why Taylor is close to selling a million copies. What other big 500K+ titles were being sold for $3.99 at the time of their release? Amazon accounts for 12% of the digital music market. The $3.99 price will likely add maybe 20k-30k to the opening week sales total, but to say she needs an asterisk next to her name because of this issue is absolutely ridiculous.
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Post by Push The Button on Oct 27, 2010 19:46:17 GMT -5
Taylor will be at nearly 2 million before the week of Thanksgiving alone. I don't understand how you think Eminem is set in stone.
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Post by kt1990 on Oct 27, 2010 19:49:18 GMT -5
people need to hurry up and realise that miss boyle isnt going to sell like she did last year. its Em v Taylor Exactly. That's what I'm saying.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 27, 2010 19:50:37 GMT -5
3.99 is the price of a single. They really need to put a star next to her name at this point. This is why I am concerned more about how much albums are bringing in money wise as opposed to how many copies are sold. Everyone can sell more at a cheaper price assuming people like the material.That would explain why Taylor is close to selling a million copies. What other big 500K+ titles were being sold for $3.99 at the time of their release? Amazon accounts for 12% of the digital music market. The $3.99 price will likely add maybe 20k-30k to the opening week sales total, but to say she needs an asterisk next to her name because of this issue is absolutely ridiculous. 12% of a million is not 20-30k. That's 120K
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 27, 2010 19:52:09 GMT -5
people need to hurry up and realise that miss boyle isnt going to sell like she did last year. its Em v Taylor Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I tend to think that also. However lets see how the first week goes. After all Subo is releasing a Christmas album. That seems like something that would be a must have for some one who is old.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2010 19:52:28 GMT -5
Also i find it funny none of you think Eminem will have any sales impact during the holidays. Last i checked, Recovery will be available during the holidays. ;) An older album is less likely to be the big hot holiday seller than one of the newer releases
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Post by neverduplicated on Oct 27, 2010 19:54:24 GMT -5
Swift was on her way to selling BIG way before Amazon sold her album for $3.99. Those of you trying to play it off like that's the reason her sales are going to be massive...look very desperate. Just accept it, she's outselling your favorite artists haha. 3.99 is the price of a single. They really need to put a star next to her name at this point. This is why I am concerned more about how much albums are bringing in money wise as opposed to how many copies are sold. Everyone can sell more at a cheaper price assuming people like the material.That would explain why Taylor is close to selling a million copies. What other big 500K+ titles were being sold for $3.99 at the time of their release? LOL, put a star next to her name? Seriously? Funny how no one is mentioning that the cost of Speak Now at Itunes, which for those of you who have forgotten commands a very comfortable majority of all digital music sales, is $13.99, more than almost every other album available on Itunes. Believe it or not, Amazon's mp3 store is nowhere near the size of Itunes and even with the album selling for $3.99 at Amazon, I'd say about 90-95% of this album's first week sales will be coming from Itunes + physical copies which are being sold at a normal if not higher than normal price. People are just trying to diminish Taylor's accomplishments for the sake of it, but the numbers will speak for themselves. And if she can pull off a million this first week, I'd say she'll almost certainly outsell Eminem by the end of the year. Yes, Eminem will see a boost like any other artist during the holiday season, but that doesn't change the fact that his album is done having 100k+ weeks whilst Taylor has all the momentum, buzz, and promotion going into the holiday season, not to mention her album is getting great reviews for the most part which never hurts.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 27, 2010 19:55:30 GMT -5
I thought most major albums had some sort of deep discount promo sale for at least the first week or so. That would be a lot of asterisks to include.
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Post by Black Jesus on Oct 27, 2010 19:56:25 GMT -5
My prediction for Top 4 selling albums of 2010:
1. Taylor Swift 'Speak Now' 2. Susan Boyle's christmas album (don't remember the title) 3. Eminem 'Recovery' 4. Lady Antebellum 'Need You Now'
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Post by CammyCan on Oct 27, 2010 19:57:17 GMT -5
Amazon accounts for 12% of the digital music market. The $3.99 price will likely add maybe 20k-30k to the opening week sales total, but to say she needs an asterisk next to her name because of this issue is absolutely ridiculous. 12% of a million is not 20-30k. That's 120K 12% of the digital music market. Digital music makes up 40% of overall music sales. Less than 5% overall. So all other things created equal (which they aren't in actuality), that's about 48k sales from Amazon.
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Post by Mark on Oct 27, 2010 19:57:25 GMT -5
Amazon accounts for 12% of the digital music market. The $3.99 price will likely add maybe 20k-30k to the opening week sales total, but to say she needs an asterisk next to her name because of this issue is absolutely ridiculous. 12% of a million is not 20-30k. That's 120K It's 12% of the DIGITAL market. She's not selling all 1 million copies digitally. And I really hope you are joking with that asterisk comment
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Oct 27, 2010 19:57:42 GMT -5
12% of a million is not 20-30k. That's 120K Uh, Amazon accounts for 12% of the digital market. Me thinks the math is a bit off here.
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Post by neverduplicated on Oct 27, 2010 19:58:27 GMT -5
Amazon accounts for 12% of the digital music market. The $3.99 price will likely add maybe 20k-30k to the opening week sales total, but to say she needs an asterisk next to her name because of this issue is absolutely ridiculous. 12% of a million is not 20-30k. That's 120K The majority of Speak Now's sales will be coming from physical CDs. Even if the album pulls out 300,000 in digital sales and even if 20% of that comes from Amazon, that's still only 60k, once again, hardly worthy of an asterik when considering the other 900k she'll be pulling in.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 27, 2010 21:00:17 GMT -5
12% of a million is not 20-30k. That's 120K The majority of Speak Now's sales will be coming from physical CDs. Even if the album pulls out 300,000 in digital sales and even if 20% of that comes from Amazon, that's still only 60k, once again, hardly worthy of an asterik when considering the other 900k she'll be pulling in. I think I heard it the first 4 times I made the mistake. What about CD sales? Amazon isn't just digital sales unless that has changed. What % are they of total CD sales? It's no different than when people complain that Mariah sold her single for cheaper than everyone else...and that only happened at certain stores with her single loverboy.
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Post by strikeleo on Oct 27, 2010 21:43:51 GMT -5
The majority of Speak Now's sales will be coming from physical CDs. Even if the album pulls out 300,000 in digital sales and even if 20% of that comes from Amazon, that's still only 60k, once again, hardly worthy of an asterik when considering the other 900k she'll be pulling in. I think I heard it the first 4 times I made the mistake. What about CD sales? Amazon isn't just digital sales unless that has changed. What % are they of total CD sales? It's no different than when people complain that Mariah sold her single for cheaper than everyone else...and that only happened at certain stores with her single loverboy. The actual CD is 8 bucks on amazon, only the digital one is 3.99 so yeah, I dont really see your point, specially when its like, 14 bucks on Itunes.
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Post by microcuts on Oct 27, 2010 21:52:06 GMT -5
I'll never understand why the US has this obsession with Swift, her songs seem so mediocre. Why does the UK have an obsession with Take That?
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Post by dbt88 on Oct 27, 2010 22:24:04 GMT -5
Is having the number one selling album of the year really THAT important? Shania's COO never ended the year as #1, yet it sold so much. People are putting too much emphasis on that. Let's just be happy for both Taylor and Eminem still managing to sell numbers in this climate
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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 27, 2010 22:51:51 GMT -5
Aside from amazon sales not being anywhere as large as those from iTunes, Swift's album hardly is the only one that's had special pricing at amazon.com in its first week. So, yeah, no asterisk needed.
Shania's Come On Over not only never ended up as the No. 1 album for a calendar year- it didn't even peak at No. 1.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2010 22:57:26 GMT -5
And albums can go on and sell forever and become the #1 album of the Soundscan era like 'Metallica'
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 27, 2010 23:42:57 GMT -5
I think I heard it the first 4 times I made the mistake. What about CD sales? Amazon isn't just digital sales unless that has changed. What % are they of total CD sales? It's no different than when people complain that Mariah sold her single for cheaper than everyone else...and that only happened at certain stores with her single loverboy. The actual CD is 8 bucks on amazon, only the digital one is 3.99 so yeah, I dont really see your point, specially when its like, 14 bucks on Itunes. They should still put an asterisk next to her name for making it that cheap on amazon. The next album will come out and she'll be selling it for a $1 or worse giving it away for free.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2010 23:57:52 GMT -5
Then an * should go on all albums
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