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Post by YoYoCanUSeeMe?! on Sept 20, 2012 7:25:31 GMT -5
Yeah and what I find strange is someone like alanis who has not been relevant in a mainstream sense for a decade can still open top 5 and no. 1 worldwide and Nelly can't do top ?? Why has one been able to create a loyal fan base and other not. I don't understand as I'm a fan of both these women. You right!! And Alanis last album is not so good, boring and always the same sound! Nelly is always creative!! |
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Post by rnbjunk on Sept 20, 2012 11:05:39 GMT -5
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Post by rnbjunk on Sept 20, 2012 11:06:19 GMT -5
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Post by JJ on Sept 20, 2012 12:34:10 GMT -5
Is Nelly doing well anywhere in the world? How is she doing in Europe?
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Post by bat1990 on Sept 20, 2012 12:47:55 GMT -5
I really love this album, I just wish the single choices and promotional strategy had been better.
I have to listen to it for a while, but I think it's her best album to date!
Favorites include: Believers (Arab Spring), Waiting for the Night, Miracles, Enemy, High Life, Spirit Indestructible.
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Post by Not Careful Enough on Sept 20, 2012 15:27:48 GMT -5
Billboard isn't even giving a projection for this.  |
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Post by YoYoCanUSeeMe?! on Sept 20, 2012 16:28:02 GMT -5
Nelly Furtado: 360 Sessions
I love Nelly as artist and person! She's so lovely and creative!
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Sept 20, 2012 16:46:59 GMT -5
Yeah and what I find strange is someone like alanis who has not been relevant in a mainstream sense for a decade can still open top 5 and no. 1 worldwide and Nelly can't do top ?? Why has one been able to create a loyal fan base and other not. I don't understand as I'm a fan of both these women. As Nelly herself said, she has sort of had to completely find a new fan base with every album because they are all so unique and different. This is something she has no problem in doing. Alanis on the other hand has completely stuck to one solid sound and has never really experimented outside of the box. I'd say that's the reason Alanis has such a strong, loyal following while Nelly unfortunately does not. |
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Post by Jack on Sept 20, 2012 17:02:13 GMT -5
I think it's all very well and good saying she has such a unique uncommercial sound, but there is no good reason on God's earth this should be selling so low it doesn't even get a projection.
And while we're at it, brilliant as I think this album is, I don't think it's as left-field and niche as people are making out. It's got the zany/offbeat thread throughout, sure, but that's present throughout all of Nelly's work...but essentially it's a rhythmic pop album. Good management and proper handling from the label should have made this thing fly.
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Post by Not Careful Enough on Sept 20, 2012 17:05:21 GMT -5
Yeah and what I find strange is someone like alanis who has not been relevant in a mainstream sense for a decade can still open top 5 and no. 1 worldwide and Nelly can't do top ?? Why has one been able to create a loyal fan base and other not. I don't understand as I'm a fan of both these women. As Nelly herself said, she has sort of had to completely find a new fan base with every album because they are all so unique and different. This is something she has no problem in doing. Alanis on the other hand has completely stuck to one solid sound and has never really experimented outside of the box. I'd say that's the reason Alanis has such a strong, loyal following while Nelly unfortunately does not. I agree with all of this except I would say that Alanis has some die hard fans from when she was huge with Jagged Little Pill and she gained a different set when she completely changed at the turn of the decade. |
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Post by Jack on Sept 20, 2012 23:02:27 GMT -5
Just tucking into the bonus tracks. Don't Leave Me is goram awful.
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Post by bat1990 on Sept 21, 2012 0:04:24 GMT -5
I listened to the bonus tracks on Spotify and found them just okay, so I bought the standard version.
I almost feel like I'm not listening to a Nelly Furtado record when I listen to this though. It's so different from anything she's done and her vocal stylings are more varied and extreme than in the past. It's my favorite of all the new stuff coming out though, with P!nk's as a close second for all sorts of different reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2012 0:28:13 GMT -5
They didn't have this at Wal-Mart. :( Yet they had like five copies of her greatest hits.  I'm planning to go to Target soon, so I'll hopefully be able to get it there. |
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Post by vsw on Sept 21, 2012 3:24:01 GMT -5
I seriously don't get it. How come this doesn't even have a projection? One would have guessed that even if with such a bad handling from her label and bad single choices and different sound she would still have some core fanbase leftovers from Loose? Ugh.
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Post by YoYoCanUSeeMe?! on Sept 21, 2012 4:27:37 GMT -5
I can't stop listening to this. Although her label screwed up the singles BIG TIME, I don't think they truly represent the artistry and excellence of the album. If people knew, I think they'd buy.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Sept 21, 2012 6:08:52 GMT -5
This will go down as one of the most flagrantly mishandled projects in the past decade.
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Post by vsw on Sept 21, 2012 8:24:57 GMT -5
This will go down as one of the most flagrantly mishandled projects in the past decade. Ugh. Poor Nelly. |
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Post by Ace on Sept 21, 2012 9:47:01 GMT -5
I was explaining this to a friend who didn't know she'd released any singles...it's absolutely ridiculous how the era has been handled. The planning here defies all logic. Release a single in April and schedule the album for June. Single flops, album pushed back till September. Then....wait till September to release a follow-up (in the States?) YEAH THAT'S BOUND TO PUSH SALES.  |
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Post by Gray. on Sept 21, 2012 12:07:17 GMT -5
This will go down as one of the most flagrantly mishandled projects in the past decade. At least people were aware that Bionic came out/existed. This is so bad it was forgotten before it was even released. |
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Post by Ace on Sept 21, 2012 12:13:41 GMT -5
At least people were aware that Bionic came out/existed. This is so bad it was forgotten before it was even released. Did you even waz listening to it though? Cuz it's not bad at all. |
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Post by Mikal on Sept 21, 2012 12:21:14 GMT -5
I've had a quick look through other iTunes album positions, it's doing poorly everywhere.
I'm quite shocked Loose didn't get her to at LEAST Top 15 in most countries. We knew it was gonna flop due to the lack of ANYONE knowing it's even out. I think it's going to really struggle 75k worldwide this week.
It's #40 in the UK mid-weeks (about 2,000 copies going by last week).
I feel terrible for her. But it's a great album and is getting a good reaction everywhere I've seen so hopefully it'll be a slow seller?
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Post by SHOOTER on Sept 21, 2012 13:07:44 GMT -5
Her complete lack of airplay is to blame.
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Post by YoYoCanUSeeMe?! on Sept 21, 2012 16:17:11 GMT -5
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Post by Surf on Sept 21, 2012 18:33:49 GMT -5
Her album was terribly mishandled. It's a really good album, that's what makes it even worse. It's very puzzling that they didn't even forecast what her album could do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2012 22:32:38 GMT -5
It's really not surprising that this is doing so poorly. The music is not commercial and Nelly has reinvented her sound so much that the 2 million people who bought "Loose" are definitely not checking for this.
Even in 2006, it was like she was just a pretty face to be a vehicle for Timbaland. Besides super fans, I don't think she has much of a core following at all.
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Post by Not Careful Enough on Sept 22, 2012 1:14:03 GMT -5
It's really not surprising that this is doing so poorly. The music is not commercial and Nelly has reinvented her sound so much that the 2 million people who bought "Loose" are definitely not checking for this. Even in 2006, it was like she was just a pretty face to be a vehicle for Timbaland. Besides super fans, I don't think she has much of a core following at all. This is doing poorly because of zero promo and horrible singles. The sound isn't as out there as you all keep saying it is, some of it would work very well on radio. ... It's just that Nelly's people can't seem to figure out which songs those are  :'( |
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Post by Keelzit on Sept 22, 2012 2:04:30 GMT -5
I cant at the possibility of this peaking lower than Folklore. She really is the most unstable artist ever as far as commercial success goes.
There really is no stand-out single though. The only song that could make a splash as a lead single is Parking Lot. At least it's getting released now but it might be too late.
The album is currently my 3rd favorite of the year behind Electra Heart and Born To Die.
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Post by YoYoCanUSeeMe?! on Sept 22, 2012 3:27:53 GMT -5
Nelly Furtado The Spirit Indestructible Standard Version and Deluxe Version
This album is a MASTERPIECE!
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Post by newpower on Sept 22, 2012 6:26:45 GMT -5
this is a great album. parking lot is my favorite right now, but there's almost no filler. at least in the standard version. maybe it's a slow seller...
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Post by bat1990 on Sept 22, 2012 21:43:04 GMT -5
They should've led with "High Life." The hook of "Laaaaaaaa la la la la, la la la la, la la la laaaaaaaaaaa laaa" would've resonated with people who chant along to Ke$ha and GaGa.
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