ClevelandRox
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Post by ClevelandRox on Feb 27, 2011 16:33:34 GMT -5
I'm happy BTD found its way to #1 on MB, I know people like to think there's a conspiracy for everything, but I don't think there's that much manipulation on Big Machine's part. Where was the manipulation when she was having her hit streak at the beginning of Fearless then Fifteen and Fearless peaked where they did as she was winning the Grammy for Album of the Year?
Speaking of bridesmaids, I still wish Speak Now was third on both formats then they split Mean and TSOU for fourth. That song feels like it was wrote to be a radio hit, and I've always seen such a great video in my head. Now I'm really thinking Sparks Fly is going to be 4th. I love Sparks, but I need my Speak Now. :( I really thought it was gonna be the YBWM of the era and be her huge third single smash.
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fridayteenage
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Post by fridayteenage on Feb 27, 2011 23:00:13 GMT -5
Ooh-er. I'm pleasantly surprised. Especially since it looks like its successor will be Kelly Clarkson.
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desertfloods
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Post by desertfloods on Feb 28, 2011 1:02:11 GMT -5
I'm happy BTD found its way to #1 on MB, I know people like to think there's a conspiracy for everything, but I don't think there's that much manipulation on Big Machine's part. Where was the manipulation when she was having her hit streak at the beginning of Fearless then Fifteen and Fearless peaked where they did as she was winning the Grammy for Album of the Year? Judging from the sales of Fearless album, singles and her tour even before her Grammy wins, I don't think the push for no.1 was even needed, from business point of view. The momentum given by LS/YBWM blowing up on multiple formats and her hype were enough to sustain its impressive sales imo. I'm not saying Big Machine did a lot of manipulation in this chart, but I just don't think Fifteen/Fearless were good examples that they don't do much. ETA: As expected, brief stay at #1, given the strong competition and likely push last week. It's now down to #3.
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Jonsolo
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Post by Jonsolo on Mar 1, 2011 10:26:36 GMT -5
0.4 mill overnight drop on MB, and we'll as expected see a big crash on Billboard next week, likely 3.5+ mill. Coming off of a bullet this week, she'll get two more weeks on BB, even if the second week sees her falling all the way out of the top 10.
And I believe this is the third single of Taylor's, after Mine and White Horse, that the label was only trying for the #1 on MB, and not care about BB. Which is pretty much a win-win for me and the label. They get to celebrate a #1 on a chart, and pat themselves on the back, and I (who only care about the BB chart, and am perfectly fine if Taylor misses out on it on a regular basis) get to see quicker chart action, and not have to see a song stick around for two or three weeks trying to top BB, when it's likely not to happen.
Of course, as I've mentioned before on this board, it's a win-lose situation when that happens to someone I root for, like George or Brad. I get annoyed seeing their respective labels celebrate the MB #1, and I'm forced to only consider the song a non-#1, when it doesn't make it there on BB. A situation that I'm likely going to have to experience in the next week or two. You win some, you lose some....
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Marv
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Post by Marv on Mar 1, 2011 19:08:35 GMT -5
That's happened to numerous artists over the past several years, including Trace, Tim, Gretchen, Miranda & tons of others......
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Post by drummerman2009 on Mar 4, 2011 20:35:02 GMT -5
If Back To December does peak at #2, Taylor Swift will be the 53rd artist to have at least four bridesmaid hits! Looks like it's going to peak at #3 on Billboard since Billy Currington has leap frogged her and BTD is now heading for a huge fall right now for the week. And correct me if I'm wrong that it's the first song to only reach #3 on Billboard but reach #1 on Mediabase.
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Ten Pound Hammer
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 4, 2011 20:45:51 GMT -5
And correct me if I'm wrong that it's the first song to only reach #3 on Billboard but reach #1 on Mediabase. Good Ride Cowboy did the same. And back when R&R was its own chart, there were countless songs that made as low as #6 on Billboard but #1 on R&R (I Miss You a Little and From This Moment On to name two).
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robrt30
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Post by robrt30 on Mar 4, 2011 21:53:29 GMT -5
Judging from the sales of Fearless album, singles and her tour even before her Grammy wins, I don't think the push for no.1 was even needed, from business point of view. The momentum given by LS/YBWM blowing up on multiple formats and her hype were enough to sustain its impressive sales imo. I've always thought it was a paranoia reaction on Borchetta's part. That behavior of his really went intro overdrive with that weird statement that he made after the Grammys last year. These last two pushes to MB #1 just seem like a continuation of that. It's almost as if he feels public reaction will criticize if Taylor's early singles from the album don't get to #1 on at least some chart. But you're absolutely right. Taylor doesn't need a #1 single. She's one of the very top selling artists in all genres right now. Any artist that becomes an albums artist and touring artist (as opposed to a singles artist) is a dream come true for people who are in the business of making money. And that's what makes it so funny, IMO, that Borchetta keeps pushing for the #1 single. It's completely unnecessary.
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