HolidayGuy
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 23, 2010 10:39:01 GMT -5
colson, RCA did not work any titles to radio. Ryan Seacrest premiered "Express" some weeks back. RCA said it would revisit working a single to radio after the movie was released. I was saying that, official release to radio or not, radio doesn't look like it's interested in playing Aguilera- which, given the performance of Bionic, isn't surprising.
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Post by jgizzle89 on Nov 23, 2010 13:24:52 GMT -5
still no mediabase updates for dr. dre's "kush"? i'm pretty sure it was sent to radio yesterday (11/22)
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Post by felipe on Nov 23, 2010 13:39:48 GMT -5
Not sure what you think science means here, or what answer you're looking for? What I want to know is why the 1000 to 1 ratio and not any other ratio? What "science" did they use to get to that specific ratio? Why not, say, a 2000 to 1 ratio? |
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Post by kingofpain on Nov 23, 2010 14:05:43 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Duck Sauce is only being played on the VERY few dance stations there are in this country. If We No Speak Americano couldn't cross over successfully, I doubt Duck Sauce would have a chance in hell.
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Post by Eqbk on Nov 23, 2010 14:27:44 GMT -5
Not sure what you think science means here, or what answer you're looking for? What I want to know is why the 1000 to 1 ratio and not any other ratio? What "science" did they use to get to that specific ratio? Why not, say, a 2000 to 1 ratio? Probably b/c the audience impression reaches in the millions per week for a typical song while downloads only go up to the thousands per week. A 1000 to 1 ratio evens that out since one million is a thousand times larger than one thousand. A 2000 to 1 ratio doesn't make as much sense b/c a million isn't two thousand times larger than one thousand. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2010 14:31:41 GMT -5
Not sure what you think science means here, or what answer you're looking for? What I want to know is why the 1000 to 1 ratio and not any other ratio? What "science" did they use to get to that specific ratio? Why not, say, a 2000 to 1 ratio? What ratio would you like? |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 23, 2010 14:45:20 GMT -5
No matter what Billboard says the ratios are, it's not going to be that cut-and-dry for many titles, as some fare a lot better in airplay than sales, and vice versa. So, just follow the formula that's stated and let it be.
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Post by felipe on Nov 23, 2010 15:25:28 GMT -5
What I want to know is why the 1000 to 1 ratio and not any other ratio? What "science" did they use to get to that specific ratio? Why not, say, a 2000 to 1 ratio? What ratio would you like? Considering the #1 song at airplay usually has about a 140 million audience and the #1 selling song has over 200k paid downloads, I'd say a 700 to 1 ratio would be fairer than 1000 to 1. What ratio do you prefer and why? |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Nov 23, 2010 15:30:45 GMT -5
What ratio would you like? Considering the #1 song at airplay usually has about a 140 million audience and the #1 selling song has over 200k paid downloads, I'd say a 700 to 1 ratio would be fairer than 1000 to 1. What ratio do you prefer and why? That's not true at all. 100million in audience is the same as 100k in sales. I fully support this logic because sales is a more accurate measure of popularity anyway....its effect is direct and not derivative. Radio could just be slow to react to a songs popularity whereas the sales effect is immediate. |
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 23, 2010 15:38:57 GMT -5
colson, RCA did not work any titles to radio. Ryan Seacrest premiered "Express" some weeks back. RCA said it would revisit working a single to radio after the movie was released. I was saying that, official release to radio or not, radio doesn't look like it's interested in playing Aguilera- which, given the performance of Bionic, isn't surprising. i think radio willl have interest in her if she brings something radio friendly. these new tracks that relate to the movie arnt that. she might be able to get some airplay on t.i.'s single. she could come back hard if she pulled an i like it or just a dream |
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Post by F.A.M.O.U.S. on Nov 23, 2010 15:56:36 GMT -5
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Post by mel46 on Nov 23, 2010 16:08:09 GMT -5
Pop Songs Debut No. 29 "Yeah 3X" Chris Brown  |
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Post by F.A.M.O.U.S. on Nov 23, 2010 16:11:42 GMT -5
Pop Songs Debut No. 29 "Yeah 3X" Chris Brown This is what will solidify his comeback, here especially around the world! |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 23, 2010 17:13:01 GMT -5
The singles from Bionic were radio-friendly- and we saw what happened there. Perhaps she will score again at radio, but this definitely is a slump.
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Post by slw84 on Nov 23, 2010 18:15:00 GMT -5
Cant we all just get along I know...It's too much for me...  |
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 23, 2010 18:16:41 GMT -5
You lost me was not radio friendly. Ballads typically dont do well on chr anymore. Theres exceptions of course, but none of them are quite as slow and dull as you lost me.
Not Myself Tonight which i found good, and radio frriendly, i often heard the major lack of a real chorus is what turned people off.
her singles werent very radio friendly say what enrique or nelly came back with. not even close
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 23, 2010 18:48:14 GMT -5
"You Lost Me" may have been slow and dull, but it didn't stray that far from, say, "Hurt." Perhaps it was an error to release it in this climate of fewer ballads doing well.
I think it's a matter of whether or not the tracks are not as radio-friendly as others' tracks. After all, it's not like she released a track that was totally out of left field, sonically).
Anyhow, we'll see how she fares with the next, post-Burlesque album.
RE Michael Jackson's track- it had adds on Urban and Urban AC this week- maybe the airplay drop was due to the "8-day adjustment"?
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Post by Caviar on Nov 23, 2010 20:55:38 GMT -5
Only Girl has hit #1.  |
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Post by nighttime on Nov 23, 2010 20:57:16 GMT -5
Only Girl has hit #1. If you're referring to her tweet, I think she's talking about the pop songs chart... |
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Post by $uperb@tDuDe on Nov 23, 2010 21:08:25 GMT -5
Only Girl has hit #1. If you're referring to her tweet, I think she's talking about the pop songs chart... That's a really late tweet then lol |
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Post by Epic Fail on Nov 23, 2010 21:12:31 GMT -5
^ We will know tomorrow. This place will go nuts.
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Post by nighttime on Nov 23, 2010 21:20:49 GMT -5
hmm..now she's saying 9th #1, which wouldn't be for Pop Songs. Either she's confusing them or she knows she's got it. I assume her team has access to all the charts to tell, so maybe lol....
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Post by Epic Fail on Nov 23, 2010 21:25:23 GMT -5
^I hope it's true, so I can start referring to her as "Legend"
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 23, 2010 22:22:23 GMT -5
Indeed, because we all know a lot of commercial success a legend makes. :)
It's nice for acts to do well, and most acts I'm sure want to do well, but putting THAT much stock in the game known as the charts?
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Post by KMJ1 on Nov 23, 2010 23:28:23 GMT -5
hmm..now she's saying 9th #1, which wouldn't be for Pop Songs. Either she's confusing them or she knows she's got it. I assume her team has access to all the charts to tell, so maybe lol.... is it possible on only Tuesday night for ANYone to have access? What exact day do both sales and airplay for the week get figured out? Doesnt everything get tabulated Wed sometime anyway? |
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Post by When I Ruled the World on Nov 23, 2010 23:42:30 GMT -5
I'm fine with Rihanna getting it this week (if she does), but I really hope Pink and Katy can still get to #1 in the future.
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Post by Junkiex on Nov 23, 2010 23:54:48 GMT -5
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Post by lugus15 on Nov 23, 2010 23:59:37 GMT -5
If she is #1 this week, then congratulations.
Honestly Rihanna and her team have been brilliant in marketing this era for her.
I like how, instead of trying to bring new life to Rated R with a re release, they moved on to a whole new project. They ¨cleaned¨ her image of all the satanic/illuminati* undertones (not that I believe in any of that in the first place, but the public is gullible) and gave her radio friendly hits. They re introduce her to the public by her feature with Eminem (something Christina should do before her next album, a feature with the hot star of the moment would do her image and marketability good.... at least it did to Rihanna now, and Mariah).
GaGa, should really clean her image a little for her next era.
*For real, if I were Rihanna, GaGa, Jay-Z, Beyonce, et. al, I would consider suing the crap from that loon @ the vigilantcitizen.com
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Post by d.t.m on Nov 24, 2010 0:22:10 GMT -5
Rihanna should release a #1 compilation for her last Def Jam project.
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 24, 2010 0:29:09 GMT -5
Rihanna should release a #1 compilation for her last Def Jam project. nope. then we wouldnt get dont stop the music which would be a fail. they can name it Number 1 collection + please dont stop the music haha or just Please Dont stop the music: The Number one hits |
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