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Post by Fresh on Dec 2, 2010 10:05:13 GMT -5
^ It was working title for "Entren Los Que Quieran".
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Post by melody56 on Dec 2, 2010 11:58:45 GMT -5
Does anyone here know of a legitimate reason why Shinedown's Sound Of Madness should return to the current albums chart this week? It moved to the catalog chart issue date Oct 30. ???
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 2, 2010 12:04:00 GMT -5
Is there an active single being worked from Sound of Madness? if so, that could be why.
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Post by badrobot on Dec 2, 2010 12:15:09 GMT -5
I just noticed how low Robyn debuted. Weird that her full album debuted so much lower than the EPs for Parts 1 and 2, although I think actual sales are about the same.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 2, 2010 12:30:21 GMT -5
Body Talk 2 debuted at No. 41 with 8,479. This new release saw release in a much busier sales week than the EPs, hence the lower ranking.
The first EP debuted at No. 97, with sales probably in the range of 5K.
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Post by Gravity. on Dec 2, 2010 22:10:05 GMT -5
Does anyone here know of a legitimate reason why Shinedown's Sound Of Madness should return to the current albums chart this week? It moved to the catalog chart issue date Oct 30. ??? I believe that a deluxe version was issued. |
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Post by leoapp on Dec 3, 2010 6:30:36 GMT -5
Lol, Lee DeWyze drops from #19 to #93?
AI is totally over
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Post by malwaredie on Dec 3, 2010 11:10:10 GMT -5
Lol, Lee DeWyze drops from #19 to #93? AI is totally over it is possible, but this is not guaranteed. Dreadful sales are to be expected from contestants who are so bad that they shouldn't have made it out of Hollywood. Lee is one of the worst performers around. |
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Post by badrobot on Dec 3, 2010 11:19:51 GMT -5
I think other people have pointed this out, but AI has always been primarily a TV show. It will be around as long as it gets ratings, the show producers couldn't care less about the success of artists from the show.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2010 11:41:08 GMT -5
It had gone from multi-year renewals to no longer a guarantee
Last year, theer were days where it didn't win its night but it still finished #1
This year it won't be #1
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Post by badrobot on Dec 3, 2010 11:47:14 GMT -5
AI's ratings have gone down, yes.
But as long as it is lucrative as a TV show it will be on the air. I'd say it still has at least a couple more years, if not more.
(I'm not an AI fan, so I wouldn't care if it was canceled permanently tomorrow, but I don't think that'll be the case.)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2010 11:55:47 GMT -5
It kind of depends on how the new format and new judges are accepted
If it bombs, it could be over quick
Shows on the decline tend to not stay around long
Regarding other items of profit:
The summer tour was cut short due to lack of interest
The winners albums are obviously not selling
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Post by badrobot on Dec 3, 2010 12:12:01 GMT -5
I don't think we're disagreeing, 2m.
I'm just saying you can't judge the success of the *show* based solely on the success/failure of its contestants' sales.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2010 12:25:51 GMT -5
Lol, Lee DeWyze drops from #19 to #93  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2010 12:31:39 GMT -5
I don't think we're disagreeing, 2m. I'm just saying you can't judge the success of the *show* based solely on the success/failure of its contestants' sales. I understand This year AI will become just another show. Networks get a certain amount of advertising dollars for a #1 show, they get less for a show that isn't performing as well. (so less revenue from there too, the albums and the tours clearly won't bring in anything) The core "cast" of this show doesn't rake in the bucks but the judges and the host get a bundle. I personally don't think this is the last year (because it was still #1 last year) but I think after 2012 it will be gone. |
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Dec 3, 2010 12:40:59 GMT -5
I personally don't think this is the last year (because it was still #1 last year) but I think after 2012 it will be gone. And when it ends, most will probably be saying that it should have gone long ago, which will negatively affect the legacy of the franchise. |
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Post by leoapp on Dec 3, 2010 13:02:07 GMT -5
I think we need a new female idol. We have 'Cute white man with guitar' idol winners for 3 consecutive seasons! It's boring.
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Post by Push The Button on Dec 3, 2010 14:24:07 GMT -5
It's the only show in television history to spend six years at #1. It is still a major money-maker.
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Post by pokepikalem on Dec 3, 2010 14:37:06 GMT -5
Crystal has more buzz than Lee and she most probably gonna end up having a better records, sell more and receive tons of awards. Farmer's daughter is a great track and I cannot wait to see it performs on AC radio.
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Post by Ke$ha's Left Tittie on Dec 3, 2010 15:03:37 GMT -5
AI is going up against La Abdul's Born To Dance on CBS this January.
Team Paula all the way.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2010 15:05:39 GMT -5
It's the only show in television history to spend six years at #1. It is still a major money-maker. What it did in the past is irrelevant to its potential future. All shows get canceled at some point |
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Post by slicknickshady on Dec 3, 2010 15:37:11 GMT -5
All shows get canceled at some point Some end on there own. ER for example could have kept going. NBC probably wishes it did since NBC get's the worst ratings out of the major 4 networks. |
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Post by malwaredie on Dec 3, 2010 15:51:33 GMT -5
Crystal has more buzz than Lee and she most probably gonna end up having a better records, sell more and receive tons of awards. Farmer's daughter is a great track and I cannot wait to see it performs on AC radio. Crystal can sell more than Lee only if Jive puts in some effort to get the album stocked unlike what has been seen with some of the other labelmates. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2010 16:07:20 GMT -5
All shows get canceled at some point Some end on there own. ER for example could have kept going. NBC probably wishes it did since NBC get's the worst ratings out of the major 4 networks. OK but the point being all shows have an ending at some point |
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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 3, 2010 17:42:59 GMT -5
Crystal has more buzz than Lee and she most probably gonna end up having a better records, sell more and receive tons of awards. Farmer's daughter is a great track and I cannot wait to see it performs on AC radio. Crystal can sell more than Lee only if Jive puts in some effort to get the album stocked unlike what has been seen with some of the other labelmates. i wouldnt say crystal is going to get tons of awards. lets see how she sells. she might do more than lee, shes the first female to make top 2 since jordin sparks. i still expect her to kinda flop in my book. my original prediction for her was a 35-40 k opening, but after seeing lees sales i dropped it to a 20-35k opening. i think idol has a few more years in it. female winner next year please, and maybe even a female runner up. i dont want a white guy who plays guitar to finish top 3. i also sorta want a successful 5th place finisher. weve had a successful 6th and 7th finsishers, and minor succcessful 8th and 9th finishers. give 5th place a shot haha. i think a new stradegy to get people excited for the upcoming seasons is a tour but not necessisarly for all the people of the previous season. maybe anyone who gets signed can be in it but also include some old favorites. i think a tour consisitng of: David Cook, David Archuleta, Jason Castro, Lee, Crystal, Kacey, Kris, Allison, Danny, Blake, and Jordin This would give a lot more variety and bring in some fans of the more developed artists. Itd still promote people who arnt as popular (Jason) and itd help start hype for Crystal, Lee, and Kacey. Have this tour in the fall that way the most recent contestans can perform their first singles there, along with a second track. Id deff go to a show consisting of those acts. People might say hey wheres Kelly/Carrie/Daughty. Well i doubt theyd be on that tour only performing 3-5 songs when they can eaisly have their own tours. |
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Dec 3, 2010 21:55:06 GMT -5
I think his #s aren't correct. I saw 520k, 518k, 496k. Idk which one are the right #s
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Post by rosemoor on Dec 4, 2010 12:45:09 GMT -5
i think a new stradegy to get people excited for the upcoming seasons is a tour but not necessisarly for all the people of the previous season. maybe anyone who gets signed can be in it but also include some old favorites. i think a tour consisitng of: David Cook, David Archuleta, Jason Castro, Lee, Crystal, Kacey, Kris, Allison, Danny, Blake, and Jordin  Idol has-beens and never weres tour. that'll be hit fo sho. |
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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 4, 2010 15:36:19 GMT -5
i think a new stradegy to get people excited for the upcoming seasons is a tour but not necessisarly for all the people of the previous season. maybe anyone who gets signed can be in it but also include some old favorites. i think a tour consisitng of: David Cook, David Archuleta, Jason Castro, Lee, Crystal, Kacey, Kris, Allison, Danny, Blake, and Jordin Idol has-beens and never weres tour. that'll be hit fo sho. id say jordin, archie, and cook together could bring in a decent enough crowd. plus support from the others in smaller portions. hmmm different idea. what about a tour with the first 10 winners? itd be pretty awesome. Assuming they get 2-4 songs each id say Kelly - My Life Would Suck Without You, Since You Been Gone, Behind these Hazel Eyes, Current Single Ruben - Sorry for 2004, Change Me Fantasia - Bittersweet, When I see You, Current Single Carrie - Before He Cheats, Cowboy Casanova, Last Name, Current Single Taylor - Dont care & Dont care Joridn - No Air ft. Ruben or Kris, Battlefield, Current Single Cook - Time of My life, Light on, Current Single Kris - LLWD, Alright with me (maybe/prbly not), Current Single Lee - SS, Current Single?, Too early to predict 10th place winner - Too early to predict yes we all know everyone would prefer Daughtry to Hicks, but this is a winners tour that i think would sell very well. |
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Post by Music Fan on Dec 4, 2010 18:17:41 GMT -5
^^That would definitely garner a good amount of profit  |
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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 4, 2010 18:27:33 GMT -5
and of course the 10 could perform two songs together. one to open the show and one to close. i think IGF would be a good one since everyone knows it
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