tshawn74
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Post by tshawn74 on Dec 8, 2010 14:37:51 GMT -5
^I KNEW that SOMEONE was going to add the * next to Good Girl Gone Bad, lmao. It should have one. It's not the same, I don't care if billboard includes in those types of lists as if it is. who care what you think?? |
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Post by seanblain on Dec 8, 2010 14:40:30 GMT -5
Most #1's - album - Female solo Albums with 4 4 - Whitney Houston — Whitney 1987-1988 4 - Paula Abdul — Forever Your Girl 1989-1990 4 - Janet Jackson — Rhythm Nation 1814 1989-1991 4 - Mariah Carey — Mariah Carey 1990-1991 Albums with 3: Christina Aguilera Christina Aguilera Daydream Mariah Carey Whitney Houston Whitney Houston True Blue Madonna The Boy Is Mine, Monica The Dutchess - Fergie Good Girl Gone Bad Rihanna Teenage Dream, Katy Perry Mariah's The Emancipation of Mimi should get an honarable mention here seing as how We Belong Together blocked Shake It Off from being #1. At least she is the first female lead artist to occupy the top 2 spots. ;) |
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Post by crystalphnx on Dec 8, 2010 14:42:42 GMT -5
^I KNEW that SOMEONE was going to add the * next to Good Girl Gone Bad, lmao. It should have one. It's not the same, I don't care if billboard includes in those types of lists as if it is. my thoughts are the exact OPPOSITE  if someone is going to follow the Billboard charts, then they need to respect Billboard's policies. if someone doesn't agree with Billboard's policies and how they compile their data, then why follow their charts in the first place? Billboard combines sales of a re-release with sales of the original album. as far as I know, Billboard also counts hits from a re-release with the hits from the original album. this may change in the future, but for now, that's just how it is. |
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Post by Tea-why on Dec 8, 2010 14:43:37 GMT -5
It should have one. It's not the same, I don't care if billboard includes in those types of lists as if it is. who care what you think?? *cares And you responded to my post, so obviously you do :) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 14:46:14 GMT -5
Owl City's 2009 smash "Fireflies" tops the 4 million mark in paid downloads this week... Kings of Leon's "Sex On Fire" tops the 2 million mark. The band's Grammy-winning "Use Somebody" is up to 3,457,000...Cali Swag District's "Teach Me How To Dougie" tops the 1 million mark.
Ludacris' "How Low" tops the 2 million mark in paid downloads. It's the rapper's first 2 million seller as a lead artist, though he has reached that level with four hits as a featured artist. He was featured on Taio Cruz's "Break Your Heart" (3,137,000), Usher's "Yeah!" (2,867,000), Fergie's "Glamorous" (2,837,000) and Justin Bieber's "Baby" (2,556,000).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 14:46:44 GMT -5
Katy Perry's "Firework" tops Hot Digital Songs for the second straight week. It sold 212K copies this week, bringing its eight-week total to 1,031,000. It's Perry's sixth million-seller. Bruno Mars has two songs in the top 10. "Grenade" jumps from #6 to #3 (173K). "Just The Way You Are" dips from #8 to #9 (97K). The Glee Cast's cover of Florence + the Machine's "Dog Days Are Over" debuts at #8 (98K). It's the 12th Glee song to make the top
10 on Hot Digital Songs. (The original version vaults from #40 to #11.)
Here's the rest of the top 10 on Hot Digital Songs. The Black Eyed Peas' "The Time (Dirty Bit)" jumps from #4 to #2 (198K). P!nk's "Raise Your Glass" drops from #2 to #4 (147K). Rihanna featuring Drake's "What's My Name?" holds at #5 (143K). Ke$ha's "We R Who We R" drops from #3 to #6 (134K). Cee Lo Green's "F*** You (Forget You)" jumps from #10 to #7 (110K). Trey Songz featuring Nicki Minaj's "Bottoms Up" jumps from #11 to #10 (93K).
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Tea-why
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Post by Tea-why on Dec 8, 2010 14:47:44 GMT -5
It should have one. It's not the same, I don't care if billboard includes in those types of lists as if it is. my thoughts are the exact OPPOSITE if someone is going to follow the Billboard charts, then they need to respect Billboard's policies. if someone doesn't agree with Billboard's policies and how they compile their data, then why follow their charts in the first place? Billboard combines sales of a re-release with sales of the original album. as far as I know, Billboard also counts hits from a re-release with the hits from the original album. this may change in the future, but for now, that's just how it is. I understand that's how they compile it, but this is my opinion. No one has to agree with it. I said it should have one, not Billboard is wrong and I am right. I just think they should clarify if it's from a re-release, when it's not the same as doing it in one try like Katy did. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 14:48:57 GMT -5
The songs from re-releases still have to be hits too in order to go to #1
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 8, 2010 14:52:16 GMT -5
My diva is better than yours.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Dec 8, 2010 14:52:36 GMT -5
The songs from re-releases still have to be hits too in order to go to #1 The achievement of the song isn't compromised by its being from a re-release, but the achievement of the album itself has to be looked at from a slightly different perspective due to the nature of the release. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 14:56:37 GMT -5
Good Girl Gone Bad - deluxe = Good Girl Gone Bad in the eyes of how it is classified
Additional bonus tracks after the initial release date still makes it the same album
If it didn't then I agree
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 14:57:28 GMT -5
The record for most top 40 hits from 1 album btw is 13 from Fearless
Also the benficiary of a reissue
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Dec 8, 2010 15:01:46 GMT -5
I guess Katy is #1 this week after all. That's three in a row for her.
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Post by neverduplicated on Dec 8, 2010 15:03:51 GMT -5
The songs from re-releases still have to be hits too in order to go to #1 The achievement of the song isn't compromised by its being from a re-release, but the achievement of the album itself has to be looked at from a slightly different perspective due to the nature of the release. Yes and no. I think the only difference is that a re-release single has the potential for much higher sales since it'll probably be released before the album re-release, so lots of fans will want to get it before the album as they would with a first single. Fans may also just choose to buy the individual track instead of having to buy the whole album again which will also boost digital sales, whereas if the track had already appeared on the original album there would be no need to purchase it again. I'm not arguing whether there should be an asterisk next to GGGB or any other re-release, but the first singles (and possibly subsequent as well) from a re-release clearly have an advantage towards charting higher than if those tracks had appeared on the original album. |
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Post by Tea-why on Dec 8, 2010 15:07:32 GMT -5
The songs from re-releases still have to be hits too in order to go to #1 The achievement of the song isn't compromised by its being from a re-release, but the achievement of the album itself has to be looked at from a slightly different perspective due to the nature of the release. Exactly. That's all I'm saying. |
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Post by crystalphnx on Dec 8, 2010 15:07:54 GMT -5
The record for most top 40 hits from 1 album btw is 13 from Fearless Also the benficiary of a reissue the points here seem very clear. regardless of what anyone thinks Billboard's policies SHOULD be, they are what they are. did Rihanna get 3 No. 1 hits from one album? did Usher get 4? YES. SHOULD these hits count together is a completely different question which is subject to everyone's opinion. but at the end of the day, what Billboard says is final, and what Billboard says is that hits from a re-release count together with hits from the original album. |
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Dec 8, 2010 15:10:44 GMT -5
The achievement of the song isn't compromised by its being from a re-release, but the achievement of the album itself has to be looked at from a slightly different perspective due to the nature of the release. Exactly. That's all I'm saying. And I agree with you. :) |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 8, 2010 15:31:31 GMT -5
"Christmas Lights" opens at No. 25- very impressive. Is this the first Christmas title in the top 40 of the Hot 100 since Christina Aguilera's cover of "The Christmas Song?"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 16:47:54 GMT -5
I miss the days when albums were released with a set number of songs and that was it. No re-releases with extra songs on them that then got counted as part of the original album. Can you imagine if Sgt. Pepper or Dark Side of the Moon had been re-released a year or so later with "extra" tracks on them?
I doubt either album would be considered the classics that they are if that had been the case back then.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Dec 8, 2010 16:52:33 GMT -5
^You don't know that for sure but in principle I agree with you.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 8, 2010 17:01:32 GMT -5
To boot, there are few if any albums released in recent times that would rival those albums' classic standing, re-release or not. As we know, the re-release tactic is such an obvious ploy to add more commercial luster to an existing album. It's understandable for an album that may have performed disappointingly (but still a desperate move), but it's perplexing when it's an album that already has performed very well- in that case, the greed apparently dominates.
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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 8, 2010 17:13:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the info crystalphnx98 and 2m! Congrats to Katy! I wonder if a 4th is possible? i say it could happen. who knows maybe a 5th is even in range. with a re-release the odds are ever better im sad dog days missed a new peak on the hot 100 by 1 position. |
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Post by worldwide on Dec 8, 2010 17:45:15 GMT -5
Nowdays it easier for an "artist" to get more number ones than it was years/decades ago.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 17:46:56 GMT -5
Really? How so?
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Post by crystalphnx on Dec 8, 2010 17:50:46 GMT -5
Nowdays it easier for an "artist" to get more number ones than it was years/decades ago. how so? it's been mentioned how this year has an usually high turnover rate with 17 songs hitting No. 1, whereas pre-SoundScan there were often 25+ each year. edit: LOL, just noticed 2m asked the exact same question a couple minutes before me  |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 8, 2010 17:54:15 GMT -5
^I think he meant that with re-releases and such, an act can score multiple No. 1 hits from the same album (even though it's in re-release form); it's a fresh new single, which some may be more inclined to buy than the 2nd, 3rd, etc. single from the original release. Of course, some like Katy Perry are doing just fine in that respect without a re-release.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 17:55:37 GMT -5
3 and 4 or more #1's from an album is still pretty rare
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Post by slw84 on Dec 8, 2010 18:04:06 GMT -5
Katy won't be #1 afterall.... muwaahahahahaha! even though I hope she is #1. Messy   |
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Post by slw84 on Dec 8, 2010 18:09:32 GMT -5
Most #1's - album - Female solo Albums with 4
4 - Whitney Houston — Whitney 1987-19884 - Paula Abdul — Forever Your Girl 1989-1990 4 - Janet Jackson — Rhythm Nation 1814 1989-1991 4 - Mariah Carey — Mariah Carey 1990-1991Albums with 3: Christina Aguilera Christina Aguilera Daydream Mariah CareyWhitney Houston Whitney HoustonTrue Blue Madonna The Boy Is Mine, MonicaThe Dutchess - Fergie Good Girl Gone Bad Rihanna Teenage Dream, Katy PerryAre these total or consecutive? Edit never mind so the only consecutive ones are bolded. |
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Post by Rodze on Dec 8, 2010 18:11:33 GMT -5
Congratulations to Katy.
This reminds of the haters saying how her era would be doomed now that we have Gaga and Ke$ha...
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