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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 29, 2010 16:29:40 GMT -5
I thought Jesse's album was pushed back? Anyway, those are excellent numbers for Eminem! Gotta love those iTunes price reductions. i think its a typo, its not even on itunes |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 29, 2010 17:17:26 GMT -5
Something's off here:
121 104 Jamey Johnson The Guitar Song 11,664 238,516
129 118 Eric Church Carolina 12,737 358,371
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Post by jgizzle89 on Dec 29, 2010 18:21:06 GMT -5
Nicki sales are impressive enough for a new artist, but throw in that she is not only a rapper without a huge solo crossover hit ("Right thru Me" ain't it), but also that she is a female rapper (a notoriously low-selling group, especially in the last 4 years or so), makes these numbers truly amazing. I really like her, but her ability to sell such a vanilla album shocks me. It's really nothing new or spectacular. Hell, she may end up selling more than Drake's debut!
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Post by jgizzle89 on Dec 29, 2010 18:23:04 GMT -5
correction: "Your Love" was huge, but that fell off the chart long before her album was released. Regardless, she has great numbers.
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Post by viviiscool on Dec 29, 2010 19:03:06 GMT -5
I think the numbers for these two might be switched... at least the total numbers because last week Rascal Flatts was almost at 500,000 and Sugarland was almost at 700,000 (and well over 500,000 lol) |
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Dec 29, 2010 19:10:31 GMT -5
Nicki's album is actually pretty great (IMO).
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Post by slw84 on Dec 29, 2010 19:40:20 GMT -5
Nicki's album is actually pretty great (IMO). It is for me too...but there is always a critic. Many love it, many hate it but one thing it is...controversial and that sells so... |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 29, 2010 20:39:43 GMT -5
Over 3 million this week:
25 Lady Antebellum Need You Now 75,174 3,070,310
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Post by crimsonsky on Dec 29, 2010 20:51:45 GMT -5
 Nicki Minaj is doing spectacularly! She'll outsell Kanye soon. And people said she her success was a fluke? HA! ;) She is doing great -- how does she stack up against other recent female rappers? I don't recall what the last big album was by anyone in that category -- Missy? Eve? Must be one of them, cause it certainly isn't Lil' Kim. |
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Post by swim on Dec 29, 2010 20:55:50 GMT -5
As I expected, Kanye is falling off and will continue to. Where is he anyway?
Sales overall are kinda weak. I wonder who will hold up decently now that the holidays are over. Is anyone even going to be in the six figures?
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Dec 29, 2010 22:00:13 GMT -5
I thought Jesse's album was pushed back? Anyway, those are excellent numbers for Eminem! Gotta love those iTunes price reductions. i think its a typo, its not even on itunes yup that's not right. One of my best friends is OBSESSED with Jesse, so I've heard about every update about this album... It's been pushed back to January. |
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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 29, 2010 22:02:57 GMT -5
As I expected, Kanye is falling off and will continue to. Where is he anyway? Sales overall are kinda weak. I wonder who will hold up decently now that the holidays are over. Is anyone even going to be in the six figures? i think taylor has a shot for one week at least, and then if back to december gets a video with good timing, maybe a 2nd week |
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Post by slw84 on Dec 29, 2010 22:27:52 GMT -5
She is doing great -- how does she stack up against other recent female rappers? I don't recall what the last big album was by anyone in that category -- Missy? Eve? Must be one of them, cause it certainly isn't Lil' Kim. I think Missy's Under construction was the last female rapper album to go 2x platinum so...yeah |
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Post by lugus15 on Dec 29, 2010 22:30:11 GMT -5
I think Bruno's album will stabilize and probably go Platinum.
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Post by jgizzle89 on Dec 29, 2010 22:41:07 GMT -5
As I expected, Kanye is falling off and will continue to. Where is he anyway? Sales overall are kinda weak. I wonder who will hold up decently now that the holidays are over. Is anyone even going to be in the six figures? What do you mean, "falling off"? He's at #19 and sold 86k, which is about 20k more than last week, with his total sitting at 824k. He'll be platinum-plus by the end of 2011, and will likely hit it before March (or sooner when "All of the Lights" starts to really blow up). |
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Post by jgizzle89 on Dec 29, 2010 22:42:31 GMT -5
I think Bruno's album will stabilize and probably go Platinum. 500k for sure. Isn't he on an independent label, Elektra, with Cee-lo? If so, that's amazing. |
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Post by swim on Dec 29, 2010 22:56:45 GMT -5
As I expected, Kanye is falling off and will continue to. Where is he anyway? Sales overall are kinda weak. I wonder who will hold up decently now that the holidays are over. Is anyone even going to be in the six figures? What do you mean, "falling off"? He's at #19 and sold 86k, which is about 20k more than last week, with his total sitting at 824k. He'll be platinum-plus by the end of 2011, and will likely hit it before March (or sooner when "All of the Lights" starts to really blow up). He's going to fall like a rock now that the holidays are over. Of course he sold more this past week...everyone did. |
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Post by jgizzle89 on Dec 30, 2010 1:26:46 GMT -5
possibly, but everyone experiences a big (60-80%) drop in this following week, just like most got a boost this week.
also, i think i'll wait for the predictions from HITS before i nay-say about his numbers. people on this board exaggerate a bit when it comes to how "poorly" his album is doing, despite that it's sold 820k in 4 weeks...
and like i said, he's going to sell more than a million within the next 2-3 months, which is still pretty good. not amazing, but nothing shabby considering the climate.
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Post by grandelf on Dec 30, 2010 2:30:54 GMT -5
15m albums sold during Christmas week- remember the days when it was around 35m-40m? Yep... The all-time high was 45 million exactly 10 years ago, right? |
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 30, 2010 3:50:40 GMT -5
I think Bruno's album will stabilize and probably go Platinum. 500k for sure. Isn't he on an independent label, Elektra, with Cee-lo? If so, that's amazing. Elektra is Warner's label, isn't it? |
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 30, 2010 3:51:57 GMT -5
What do you mean, "falling off"? He's at #19 and sold 86k, which is about 20k more than last week, with his total sitting at 824k. He'll be platinum-plus by the end of 2011, and will likely hit it before March (or sooner when "All of the Lights" starts to really blow up). He's going to fall like a rock now that the holidays are over. Of course he sold more this past week...everyone did. What do you mean "fall like a rock"? MBDTF is going to climb into Top 10. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 30, 2010 7:06:40 GMT -5
Relapse re-enters the Billboard 200 at #184 (78 weeks on the chart).
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 30, 2010 8:29:20 GMT -5
From UKMix:
The Billboard 200
1 1 9 Speak Now, Taylor Swift
2 2 7 The Gift, Susan Boyle
3 5 6 Glee: The Music, The Christmas Album, Soundtrack
4 4 6 O Holy Night (EP), Jackie Evancho
5 3 2 Michael, Michael Jackson
6 NEW 1 Best Night Of My Life, Jamie Foxx
7 22 27 Recovery, Eminem
8 8 5 Pink Friday, Nicki Minaj
9 NEW 1 Calling All Hearts, Keyshia Cole
10 11 6 Loud, Rihanna
11 NEW 1 No Boys Allowed, Keri Hilson
12 15 18 Teenage Dream, Katy Perry
13 6 2 Love Letter, R. Kelly
14 13 6 Illuminations, Josh Groban
15 9 6 Born Free, Kid Rock
16 14 4 The Beginning, The Black Eyed Peas
17 10 4 Glee, The Music: Season Two: Volume 4, Soundtrack
18 19 8 My Kinda Party, Jason Aldean
19 23 5 My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Kanye West
20 29 12 Doo-Wops & Hooligans, Bruno Mars
21 18 40 My World 2.0, Justin Bieber
22 25 10 The Incredible Machine, Sugarland
23 12 5 My Worlds Acoustic, Justin Bieber
24 16 6 Nothing Like This, Rascal Flatts
25 26 48 Need You Now, Lady Antebellum
26 21 3 No Mercy, T.I.
27 33 3 Tron: Legacy (Soundtrack), Daft Punk
28 24 7 NOW 36, Various Artists
29 27 6 Get Closer, Keith Urban
30 17 8 Merry Christmas II You, Mariah Carey
31 20 18 My Christmas, Andrea Bocelli
32 34 6 Greatest Hits... So Far!!!, P!nk
33 36 13 Hemingway's Whiskey, Kenny Chesney
34 40 40 Sigh No More, Mumford & Sons
35 31 14 A Year Without Rain, Selena Gomez & The Scene
36 37 4 Number One Hits, Tim McGraw
37 32 7 Greatest Hits, Bon Jovi
38 42 14 You Get What You Give, Zac Brown Band
39 54 5 Cannibal, Ke$ha
40 47 65 Revolution, Miranda Lambert
41 49 13 I Am Not A Human Being, Lil Wayne
42 48 11 The Band Perry, The Band Perry
43 39 5 Burlesque, Soundtrack
44 7 2 Last Train To Paris, Diddy - Dirty Money
45 62 10 Come Around Sundown, Kings Of Leon
46 30 13 A Charlie Brown Christmas (Soundtrack), Vince Guaraldi Trio
47 28 2 Farmer's Daughter, Crystal Bowersox
48 41 28 Noel, Josh Groban
49 38 6 A Christmas Cornucopia, Annie Lennox
50 53 11 BTR (Soundtrack), Big Time Rush
51 57 11 Charleston, SC 1966, Darius Rucker
52 46 12 WOW Hits 2011, Various Artists
53 52 5 34 Number Ones, Alan Jackson
54 56 111 Fearless, Taylor Swift
55 61 15 A Thousand Suns, Linkin Park
56 72 30 Lungs, Florence + The Machine
57 69 51 Animal, Ke$ha
58 55 3 Just Charlie, Charlie Wilson
59 51 10 The Union, Elton John / Leon Russell
60 59 64 Crazy Love, Michael Buble
61 63 60 Play On, Carrie Underwood
62 74 15 Passion, Pain & Pleasure, Trey Songz
63 64 110 The Foundation, Zac Brown Band
64 60 7 All The Women I Am, Reba
65 80 113 The Fame, Lady Gaga
66 68 54 I Dreamed A Dream, Susan Boyle
67 50 6 And If Our God Is For Us..., Chris Tomlin
68 73 32 Brothers, The Black Keys
69 76 58 My World (EP), Justin Bieber
70 81 17 NOW 35, Various Artists
71 75 32 Glee: The Music, Volume 3: Showstoppers, Soundtrack
72 45 10 NOW That's What I Call Christmas! 4, Various Artists
73 94 7 Man On The Moon II: The Legend Of Mr. Rager, Kid Cudi
74 86 5 Libra Scale, Ne-Yo
75 83 6 5.0, Nelly
76 95 28 Thank Me Later, Drake
77 90 59 Save Me, San Francisco, Train
78 84 8 Hits Alive, Brad Paisley
79 78 6 The Promise, Bruce Springsteen
80 67 10 Hannah Montana Forever, Soundtrack
81 105 34 Live At The Troubadour, Carole King & James Taylor
82 96 12 Bullets In The Gun, Toby Keith
83 103 14 Hands All Over, Maroon 5
84 98 23 Kidz Bop 18, Kidz Bop Kids
85 92 60 Glee: Season One: The Music Volume 1, Soundtrack
86 35 2 Now Or Never, Tank
87 82 10 Fly Me To The Moon... The Great American Songbook Volume V, Rod Stewart
88 93 218 Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift
89 99 4 Love Me Back, Jazmine Sullivan
90 100 5 Danger Days: The True Lives Of The Fabulous Killjoys, My Chemical Romance
91 108 81 The E.N.D., The Black Eyed Peas
92 43 11 A Merry Little Christmas (EP), Lady Antebellum
93 65 17 Let It Snow! (EP), Michael Buble
94 44 2 Basic Instinct, Ciara
95 89 6 ...Featuring, Norah Jones
96 102 7 The Lady Killer, Cee Lo Green
97 97 10 Move, Third Day
98 118 21 The Suburbs, Arcade Fire
99 66 19 Christmas: 25th Anniversary Collection, Mannheim Steamroller
100 58 21 The Taylor Swift Holiday Collection (EP), Taylor Swift
101 79 23 It's A Wonderful Christmas, Michael W. Smith
102 77 6 Joy To The World, Pink Martini
103 106 14 Enjoy Yourself, Billy Currington
104 107 9 Hollywood: The Deluxe (EP), Michael Buble
105 113 17 Asylum, Disturbed
106 87 16 Christmas Eve And Other Stories, Trans-Siberian Orchestra
107 101 7 Loaded: The Best Of Blake Shelton, Blake Shelton
108 124 22 Nightmare, Avenged Sevenfold
109 88 3 All American Nightmare, Hinder
110 71 6 Sleigh Ride: Side By Side, Various Artists
111 85 25 The Lost Christmas Eve, Trans-Siberian Orchestra
112 110 55 Glee: Season One: The Music Volume 2, Soundtrack
113 109 8 Dreams, Neil Diamond
114 122 15 The Guitar Song, Jamey Johnson
115 123 18 Back To Me, Fantasia
116 126 5 Hits Collection: Volume One, Jay-Z
117 127 6 What Separates Me From You, A Day To Remember
118 133 154 Abbey Road, The Beatles (Diamond Certification) 12
119 NEW 1 All You Need Is Now, Duran Duran
120 121 89 Number Ones, Michael Jackson
121 140 19 Intimacy: Album III, Kem
122 194 148 Journey's Greatest Hits, Journey (Diamond Certification) 15
123 132 70 Awake, Skillet
124 131 12 Clapton, Eric Clapton
125 119 6 Live It Up, Lee DeWyze
126 130 14 Guitar Heaven: The Greatest Guitar Classics Of All Time, Santana
127 134 18 Versus (EP), Usher
128 NEW 1 Apollo Kids, Ghostface Killah
129 117 3 4X4=12, deadmau5
130 91 2 Kandi Koated, Kandi
131 137 178 1967-1970, The Beatles (Diamond Certification) 17
132 143 12 Flockaveli, Waka Flocka Flame
133 129 4 Let Freedom Reign, Chrisette Michele
134 138 52 Carolina, Eric Church
135 153 57 The Fame Monster (EP), Lady Gaga
136 144 4 Second Chance, El DeBarge
137 148 10 Sale El Sol, Shakira
138 139 4 Lost In Time, Eric Benet
139 112 15 Christmas Cheers, Straight No Chaser
140 128 21 The Twilight Saga: Eclipse, Soundtrack
141 162 25 Euphoria, Enrique Iglesias
142 171 16 God Willin' & The Creek Don't Rise, Ray Lamontagne And The Pariah Dogs
143 179 27 To The Sea, Jack Johnson
144 151 16 Kaleidoscope Heart, Sara Bareilles
145 116 23 Merry Christmas, Mariah Carey
146 142 39 Raymond V Raymond, Usher
147 165 139 Lady Antebellum, Lady Antebellum
148 161 120 Rock N Roll Jesus, Kid Rock
149 149 60 War Is The Answer, Five Finger Death Punch
150 156 25 Glee: The Music, Journey To Regionals (EP), Soundtrack
151 145 23 Teflon Don, Rick Ross
152 160 107 Dark Horse, Nickelback
153 159 173 1962-1966, The Beatles (Diamond Certification) 15
154 70 20 Glory In The Highest: Christmas Songs Of Worship, Chris Tomlin
155 199 97 Curtain Call: The Hits, Eminem
156 125 6 The Promise: The Darkness On The Edge Of Town Story, Bruce Springsteen
157 172 174 The Beatles, The Beatles (Diamond Certification) 19
158 RE-ENTRY 163 Legend: The Best Of Bob Marley And The Wailers, Bob Marley And The Wailers (Diamond Certification) 10
159 189 124 The Sound Of Madness, Shinedown
160 141 42 Tonight, tobyMac
161 178 73 Leave This Town, Daughtry
162 168 3 Salsa: Un Homenaje A El Gran Combo, El Gran Combo
163 RE-ENTRY 9 Grace Potter & The Nocturnals, Grace Potter & The Nocturnals
164 RE-ENTRY 30 B.o.B Presents: The Adventures Of Bobby Ray, B.o.B
165 157 29 Pass The Jar: Live From the Fabulous Fox Theater In Atlanta, Zac Brown Band
166 166 115 Nothing But The Best, Frank Sinatra
167 187 76 American Saturday Night, Brad Paisley
168 RE-ENTRY 14 Cowboy's Back In Town, Trace Adkins
169 152 13 NOW That's What I Call Country: Volume 3, Various Artists
170 111 19 Elvis Christmas, Elvis Presley
171 169 23 Judge Jerrod & The Hung Jury, Jerrod Niemann
172 114 22 The Essential NOW That's What I Call Christmas, Various Artists
173 120 23 A Christmas Celebration, Celtic Woman
174 170 5 Tangled, Soundtrack
175 181 4 The DeAndre Way, Soulja Boy
176 RE-ENTRY 59 Man On The Moon: The End Of Day, Kid Cudi
177 177 56 Kiss And Tell, Selena Gomez & The Scene
178 RE-ENTRY 79 Chronicle The 20 Greatest Hits, Creedence Clearwater Revival
179 182 38 Twang, George Strait
180 193 86 Wide Open, Jason Aldean
181 RE-ENTRY 17 The Beatles In Stereo, The Beatles
182 RE-ENTRY 140 It's Time, Michael Buble
183 115 11 Christmas, Celtic Thunder
184 RE-ENTRY 78 Relapse, Eminem
185 180 89 Greatest Hits Volume 1, Rascal Flatts
186 195 9 Glee: The Rocky Horror Glee Show (EP), Soundtrack
187 RE-ENTRY 49 The Essential Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson
188 135 3 Endlessly, Duffy
189 196 24 NOW 34, Various Artists
190 197 47 Until The Whole World Hears, Casting Crowns
191 RE-ENTRY 12 Band Of Joy, Robert Plant
192 174 113 1, The Beatles (Diamond Certification) 11
193 RE-ENTRY 57 Brand New Eyes, Paramore
194 RE-ENTRY 158 Thriller, Michael Jackson (Diamond Certification) 29
195 RE-ENTRY 37 Contra, Vampire Weekend
196 RE-ENTRY 110 Call Me Irresponsible, Michael Buble
197 RE-ENTRY 16 The Remix, Lady Gaga
198 RE-ENTRY 57 Exile On Main St., The Rolling Stones
199 RE-ENTRY 16 All About Tonight (EP), Blake Shelton
200 RE-ENTRY 45 Waking Up, OneRepublic
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Post by badrobot on Dec 30, 2010 10:53:38 GMT -5
correction: "Your Love" was huge, but that fell off the chart long before her album was released. Regardless, she has great numbers. That song peaked at #14... how is that "huge"? |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Dec 30, 2010 11:28:12 GMT -5
all we need are some numbers now.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 30, 2010 11:45:59 GMT -5
"Your Love" was big on the R&B and possibly rhythmic chart- I think, anyways.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Dec 30, 2010 11:49:52 GMT -5
"Your Love" was big on the R&B and possibly rhythmic chart- I think, anyways. It also made at least the top 20 at Pop radio. Can't remember where it peaked. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 30, 2010 11:54:30 GMT -5
Yeah- so it wasn't huge overall, but at some formats, it did pretty well. it peaked at 4 on Billboard's R&B chart and #22 on Pop Songs (Mainstream Top 40). On the Rap chart, it peaked at #1.
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Post by bat1990 on Dec 30, 2010 12:46:10 GMT -5
65 80 113 The Fame, Lady Gaga
135 153 57 The Fame Monster (EP), Lady Gaga
197 RE-ENTRY 16 The Remix, Lady Gaga
I wonder how much each of these sold and the overall totals too.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Dec 30, 2010 17:17:03 GMT -5
I think this article is interesting:
Analysis: Is Kid Rock Making Millions By Not Selling His Music on iTunes?
December 30, 2010 – Global | Digital & Mobile | Retail | Branding | Rock & Pop
By Glenn Peoples
Is Kid Rock better off not selling his album and single tracks from his latest album? If the album were available on iTunes, overall revenue could very well be lower than what it has currently generated.
The decision by some artists such as Kid Rock, AC/DC and Garth Brooks to keep their music off iTunes to prevent a la carte digital song downloads has proven controversial. The album format has become unbundled and fades more each year. Consumers clearly enjoy purchasing single tracks instead of bundles of tracks. And while the artist and label ultimately retain the right to sell their music as they see fit, a decision to eliminate track sales is seen as being out of step with the realities of today's market.
Kid Rock's "Born Free," however has sold an impressive 612,000 units, according to Nielsen SoundScan. Taking into account a few assumptions, one can argue that "Born Free" would have sold only 294,000 units if fans were allowed to buy single tracks, according to my rough calculations. By not allowing single tracks to be sold, Kid Rock has potentially made $3.3 million more in U.S. retail sales from the album.
To figure this out I started by looking at album and track sales for some current hit releases. I looked at ten other popular albums ranging from Drake's "Thank Me Later" to Sugarland's "Incredible Machine." The ten titles average about 910,000 album sales and 1.83 million single tracks from that album. That's a tracks-to-album ratio of 2.12.
The next step is to estimate the rate at which single tracks replaced albums. To figure this out I looked at the change in album and single tracks from 2007 to 2010. (I chose 2007 as the starting point because it was the year Kid Rock's previous album, "Rock N Roll Jesus" was released.) Comparing similar time periods, I saw that a loss of 167 million album sales per year had coincided with a gain of about 328 million single tracks per year. In other words, there was a gain of 2.08 single tracks for every unit decline in album sales. This makes sense when you think of how some people now have the ability to buy a couple songs instead of an entire album.
Next, I combined the numbers to reflect how many individual tracks Kid Rock fans would have purchased and calculated the substitutive nature of those track purchases. The result is about 294,000 albums and 625,000 tracks. Remember that "Born Free" has sold 612,000 units through December 26. (A key assumption is that the number of unique purchasers remains the same in both scenarios. When only the album is available for sale, the number of unique purchasers is clear - 612,000. For these calculations, I assumed the same number of people would buy <i>something</i> if both the album and individual tracks were available. In this hypothetical scenario, 294,000 consumers opted for an album and 318,000 consumers opted for individual tracks.)
The difference in dollars and cents is huge. With only album sales, "Born Free" generated about $7.9 million in retail sales with the alum estimated at a $13 average sale price. If single tracks were available, "Born Free" would have generated only $4.6 million in retail sales (assuming the average retail price of a track was $1.29) -- a difference of $3.3 million in favor of Kid Rock not allowing his music on iTunes.
It's important to realize these are rough estimates and assumptions about Kid Rock fans' spending habits. Kid Rock fans may be more avid album buyers than the typical consumers. Or perhaps more consumers would have purchased individual tracks if they had the opportunity. And since some CD buyers may purchase a digital album at iTunes if they had the chance, the assumptions behind the math aren't perfect. But if this was an average situation that reflects the current dynamic between album and track sales, consumers would have bought fewer albums and a lot more single tracks. And as a result Kid Rock's "Born Free" would have generated less revenue.
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