L.A. Reid leaving IDJ

[Junkiex]

www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/88770/l-a-reid-joins-x-factor-as-judge-while-leaving-isl

:o

He's had his hit and misses, but I'd still feel kinda sad about his departure. I guess some fresh blood would also be good, tho.

[#LisaRinna]

Watch out Sony artists :(

[grouper6]

L.A Reid has been toxic to so many artists....ask TLC, Toni Braxton, Janet, somewhat Mariah and Whitney!

[jj99$ - - LeLe]

Ya apparently he is heading to JIVE. (maybe he can help the poisoned chalice)

And has supposedly signed on to be on the Judging panel of The X-Factor

[tsw2008]

He can't be any worse than that cheap ass Barry Weiss.

[jj99$ - - LeLe]

Mar 17, 2011 10:18:40 GMT -5 tsw2008 said:

He can't be any worse than that cheap ass Barry Weiss.

Maybe now Jive artist will have a chance Promo wise.

[Deleted]

Mar 17, 2011 6:33:07 GMT -5 grouper6 said:

L.A Reid has been toxic to so many artists....ask TLC, Toni Braxton, Janet, somewhat Mariah and Whitney!

His career has been strange heading labels because he was very successful in the beginning with LaFace/Arista and then started screwing up careers left and right before they gave him the boot in the early 00s. Then he moved over to Island and spearheaded Mariah's comeback as well as launching Rihanna's career. Then he basically screwed up all the work he did with Mariah by pushing poor single choices and has made a bunch of other bad decisions in the past few years as head of Island. I wonder if moving to Sony will reinvigorate him again or if he'll continue on this downward spiral.

[vandj4ever]

Mar 17, 2011 10:18:40 GMT -5 tsw2008 said:

He can't be any worse than that cheap ass Barry Weiss.

This.

[brightredsongs]

Notable too for DROPPING Lady Gaga from Def Jam, the year before she hit big. And he should be taken seriously as a talent judge on X-Factor? Brilliant.... like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic at these labels..........

[David]

He's going to Jive? I guess I'm not too worried about Pink then. Afterall, he signed her and loves her. If anything, he may pimp her like Rihanna. Im also not too concerned with her not getting her way, because she did with Missundaztood and he knows how that turned out. Lol

[bat1990]

Maybe the COO is partially responsible for the careers going well on IDJ, so perhaps all artists on the label will benefit in the coming years.

[Jay D83]

The thing I *hate* about LA is the fact that if he puts it in his head that he doesn't like you, or your project - he won't promote it. At. All.

Oh and Barry is coming to Universal (probably heading up IDJ) I feel bad for RiRi and Beiber. BARRY.DON'T.SPEND.NO.MONEY!

[Kevin]

Hopefully he is not going to screw up Britney's brand...

[Black Jesus]

Ryan Secreast said he's leaving to be a judge on X Factor

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

He's dead weight when it comes to managing artists careers. However, he can usually find good talent. You have to give him credit for having signed Gaga in the first place.

[$uperb@tDuDe]

Even though I don't like him I don't think people give hiim enough credit. I mean he launched the careers of Toni Braxton, Usher, TLC, Pink, Rihanna, Outkast, Avril Lavigne, Justin Bieber, Goodie Mob, and Ciara. He also spearheaded one of the biggest comebacks in pop music history (see Mariah Carey). No label head has a perfect track record, but also few have the amazing track record of L.A.

With his departure I'm definitely worried about Rihanna, she's been Def Jam's priority since 2007 and with a new label head who knows if she'll get the same promotion and attention that has made her a worldwide superstar.

[Deleted]

Reid is so hit or miss, but when he hits, he really hits. I agree that he seems to be better at scouting and initially launching talent;when it comes to managing talent in the long term, that's when his track record starts getting spotty.

Mar 19, 2011 8:04:47 GMT -5 Jay D83 said:

The thing I *hate* about LA is the fact that if he puts it in his head that he doesn't like you, or your project - he won't promote it. At. All.

I think at least half the executives in the industry are like this, though. I can't stand that attitude either, but that's not a gripe that I hold against him specifically, just in general.

Mar 19, 2011 18:57:15 GMT -5 $uperb@tDuDe said:

With his departure I'm definitely worried about Rihanna, she's been Def Jam's priority since 2007 and with a new label head who knows if she'll get the same promotion and attention that has made her a worldwide superstar.

It would be a weird twist of fate if Reid's departure from Def Jam + return to RCA/Jive ended up in Rihanna's career suffering while Ciara's saw a rebound. Hopefully that won't happen (to Rihanna, I mean; I DO hope that he does some positive things for Ciara again, girl needs someone in her corner).

The one I feel the worst for is Avril; this move is just a few months too late for her. LA was one of her biggest supporters, so I can't help but wonder how differently her era would have started if LA had been there to oversee it.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

Mar 19, 2011 18:57:15 GMT -5 $uperb@tDuDe said:

Even though I don't like him I don't think people give hiim enough credit. I mean he launched the careers of Toni Braxton, Usher, TLC, Pink, Rihanna, Outkast, Avril Lavigne, Justin Bieber, Goodie Mob, and Ciara. He also spearheaded one of the biggest comebacks in pop music history (see Mariah Carey). No label head has a perfect track record, but also few have the amazing track record of L.A.

With his departure I'm definitely worried about Rihanna, she's been Def Jam's priority since 2007 and with a new label head who knows if she'll get the same promotion and attention that has made her a worldwide superstar.

Yeah but Mariah's comeback would've been a fail if LA had gotten his way. He didn't spearhead Mariah's comeback. Mariah spearheaded her comeback. She fought LA when he was screwing up. If you remember LA wanted Say Something released as the first single from TEOM. Janet is an example of what happens when LA Reid gets his way.

[will]

Mar 20, 2011 11:38:58 GMT -5 Adonis the DemiGod! said:

Mar 19, 2011 18:57:15 GMT -5 $uperb@tDuDe said:

Even though I don't like him I don't think people give hiim enough credit. I mean he launched the careers of Toni Braxton, Usher, TLC, Pink, Rihanna, Outkast, Avril Lavigne, Justin Bieber, Goodie Mob, and Ciara. He also spearheaded one of the biggest comebacks in pop music history (see Mariah Carey). No label head has a perfect track record, but also few have the amazing track record of L.A.

With his departure I'm definitely worried about Rihanna, she's been Def Jam's priority since 2007 and with a new label head who knows if she'll get the same promotion and attention that has made her a worldwide superstar.

Yeah but Mariah's comeback would've been a fail if LA had gotten his way. He didn't spearhead Mariah's comeback. Mariah spearheaded her comeback. She fought LA when he was screwing up. If you remember LA wanted Say Something released as the first single from TEOM. Janet is an example of what happens when LA Reid gets his way.

I agree. La reid wanted I'm that chick to be her first single. LOL
Thank god they went with Touch my body.

[HolidayGuy]

"Say Somethin'" was one of the best tracks on the Mimi album- so I can agree with LA Reid's thinking. It would have fared better as the lead single than it did as the fifth single- possibly as well as "It's Like That." But, it was one of those rare different sounds for Mimi (like "I'm That Chick"), and we certainly can't have that.

Anyhow...

I'm sure he'll do fine in his endeavors.

[#LisaRinna]

Mar 20, 2011 15:44:38 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

"Say Somethin'" was one of the best tracks on the Mimi album- so I can agree with LA Reid's thinking. It would have fared better as the lead single than it did as the fifth single- possibly as well as "It's Like That."

Please!! 'Say Something' one of the best tracks? ch have you even listened to that album in full? ;)
People wanted Mariah to SING again and that track is half-whispered. I just can't with this post.

BTW, Mariah's catalog is diverse enough for her fans, otherwise we wouldn't be supporting her 20 years after ;)

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

Mar 20, 2011 15:44:38 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

"Say Somethin'" was one of the best tracks on the Mimi album- so I can agree with LA Reid's thinking. It would have fared better as the lead single than it did as the fifth single- possibly as well as "It's Like That." But, it was one of those rare different sounds for Mimi (like "I'm That Chick"), and we certainly can't have that.

Anyhow...

I'm sure he'll do fine in his endeavors.

Please everyone trashed it as a first single thats why it was pulled and It's Like That was released instead. Remember Mariah went back to record additional tracks after Say Something was leaked and failed to impress. Funny how those newly recorded tracks ended up being the hits and Say Something was the one that flopped. If a song has what it takes to be a hit, it will be a hit 4th single or 1st single, period. Nice try at trying to revise history to fit your opinions of Say Something.

[Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815...]

I totally agree with Mario and Adonis.

Say Something would've killed that amazing comeback. The song doesn't do anything for me and I do remember people hating it when it leaked. I love the video for the song, Mariah looks stunning but the song is whatever to me. I still hated that they end up releasing it when they had other songs like Circles and So Lonely(One & Only) that could've made a bigger impact.
Anyhow, for the first single I'm glad they went with It's Like That, which is still one of my favorite MC tracks. It felt fresh and it definitely had that "comeback" feel to it...the return of a superstar.

[spooky21]

Mar 20, 2011 11:38:58 GMT -5 Adonis the DemiGod! said:

Mar 19, 2011 18:57:15 GMT -5 $uperb@tDuDe said:

Even though I don't like him I don't think people give hiim enough credit. I mean he launched the careers of Toni Braxton, Usher, TLC, Pink, Rihanna, Outkast, Avril Lavigne, Justin Bieber, Goodie Mob, and Ciara. He also spearheaded one of the biggest comebacks in pop music history (see Mariah Carey). No label head has a perfect track record, but also few have the amazing track record of L.A.

With his departure I'm definitely worried about Rihanna, she's been Def Jam's priority since 2007 and with a new label head who knows if she'll get the same promotion and attention that has made her a worldwide superstar.

Yeah but Mariah's comeback would've been a fail if LA had gotten his way. He didn't spearhead Mariah's comeback. Mariah spearheaded her comeback. She fought LA when he was screwing up. If you remember LA wanted Say Something released as the first single from TEOM. Janet is an example of what happens when LA Reid gets his way.

He had a significant hand in that comeback. He was the one who made her go back to the studio to work on more tracks after she had finished the album. He pushed her on her vocal delivery and writing and we got WBT, SIO, and ILT out of it. All 3 were her biggest hits on the album.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

Mar 21, 2011 10:58:09 GMT -5 spooky21 said:

Mar 20, 2011 11:38:58 GMT -5 Adonis the DemiGod! said:

Yeah but Mariah's comeback would've been a fail if LA had gotten his way. He didn't spearhead Mariah's comeback. Mariah spearheaded her comeback. She fought LA when he was screwing up. If you remember LA wanted Say Something released as the first single from TEOM. Janet is an example of what happens when LA Reid gets his way.

He had a significant hand in that comeback. He was the one who made her go back to the studio to work on more tracks after she had finished the album. He pushed her on her vocal delivery and writing and we got WBT, SIO, and ILT out of it. All 3 were her biggest hits on the album.

He didn't make Mariah do anything. He wanted Say Something released as the first single and the public rejected it. Mariah wanted to go back in the studio and record new material. Hell she even had to fight him off several times about the single selection for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th singles. The only reason they pushed it as a 5th single was to appease him.

[$uperb@tDuDe]

People act like Mariah handled the comeback herself. L.A. was the CEO at the time so of course he had a hand in the success regardless of what singles he wanted released etc; And I do recall and interview where L.A. said he knew WBT would be a hit the minute he heard it.

[spooky21]

Mar 21, 2011 13:10:21 GMT -5 Adonis the DemiGod! said:

Mar 21, 2011 10:58:09 GMT -5 spooky21 said:

He had a significant hand in that comeback. He was the one who made her go back to the studio to work on more tracks after she had finished the album. He pushed her on her vocal delivery and writing and we got WBT, SIO, and ILT out of it. All 3 were her biggest hits on the album.

He didn't make Mariah do anything. He wanted Say Something released as the first single and the public rejected it. Mariah wanted to go back in the studio and record new material. Hell she even had to fight him off several times about the single selection for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th singles. The only reason they pushed it as a 5th single was to appease him.

Wrong. Mariah was nearly complete with the album and Say Something had been selected as the first single. After working with JD on SIO and GYN, she played the songs for LA and he suggested that she go back to Atlanta to work with JD since he thought they made magic together. At that point Mariah had personally wanted SIO for the first single and LA was in agreement with SIO and GYN being 1 & 2, her own words. There were several articles where Mariah herself said that LA wanted her to go back and do more songs with JD.


They may have fought over the third and fourth singles, but you cannot deny that LA had a significant hand in helping drive Mariah to success with Mimi. You can even tell with the level of thanks and praise she gave him during acceptance speeches during that era.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

Mar 23, 2011 6:50:59 GMT -5 spooky21 said:

Mar 21, 2011 13:10:21 GMT -5 Adonis the DemiGod! said:

He didn't make Mariah do anything. He wanted Say Something released as the first single and the public rejected it. Mariah wanted to go back in the studio and record new material. Hell she even had to fight him off several times about the single selection for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th singles. The only reason they pushed it as a 5th single was to appease him.

Wrong. Mariah was nearly complete with the album and Say Something had been selected as the first single. After working with JD on SIO and GYN, she played the songs for LA and he suggested that she go back to Atlanta to work with JD since he thought they made magic together. At that point Mariah had personally wanted SIO for the first single and LA was in agreement with SIO and GYN being 1 & 2, her own words. There were several articles where Mariah herself said that LA wanted her to go back and do more songs with JD.


They may have fought over the third and fourth singles, but you cannot deny that LA had a significant hand in helping drive Mariah to success with Mimi. You can even tell with the level of thanks and praise she gave him during acceptance speeches during that era.

ahh ic...how do you know all of this?

[spooky21]

Mar 23, 2011 8:41:22 GMT -5 Adonis the DemiGod! said:

Mar 23, 2011 6:50:59 GMT -5 spooky21 said:

Wrong. Mariah was nearly complete with the album and Say Something had been selected as the first single. After working with JD on SIO and GYN, she played the songs for LA and he suggested that she go back to Atlanta to work with JD since he thought they made magic together. At that point Mariah had personally wanted SIO for the first single and LA was in agreement with SIO and GYN being 1 & 2, her own words. There were several articles where Mariah herself said that LA wanted her to go back and do more songs with JD.


They may have fought over the third and fourth singles, but you cannot deny that LA had a significant hand in helping drive Mariah to success with Mimi. You can even tell with the level of thanks and praise she gave him during acceptance speeches during that era.

ahh ic...how do you know all of this?

#lamb

[कामसूत्र]

And those very specific details were discussed here in the lead-up to the album's release in 2005.