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Post by Enigma. on Mar 24, 2011 2:52:04 GMT -5
So this is the longest at #1 since LTWYL spent 6 Weeks. And the longest #1 debut since 1998. What was the last one? Elton John? (Sorry, it's probably been said somewhere but too lazy to search :) ) EDIT: Probably I'm Your Angel although it coincided with the new chart rules. |
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Post by LegendaryLover on Mar 24, 2011 3:48:39 GMT -5
Damn Gaga. -.-
Nevermind, there is still next week + video release week to come.
JCGE contending for #1 is shocking. That song is awesome but #1???? This better not block Katy.
Rihanna can get it when her airplay peaks. Katy better get that #1.
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Post by JayBoozer on Mar 24, 2011 7:29:37 GMT -5
I think it's funny that it's "shocking" now that BEP is contending for #1 when only a couple years ago they were #1 for 6 months straight.
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Post by Tea-why on Mar 24, 2011 8:14:18 GMT -5
And the longest #1 debut since 1998. What was the last one? Elton John? (Sorry, it's probably been said somewhere but too lazy to search :) ) EDIT: Probably I'm Your Angel although it coincided with the new chart rules. "I'm You're Angel" doesn't count as a #1 debut (anymore) since on the chart it appears to have jumped from 46-1 on it's 6th chart week (even though the last weeks/weeks on column reflect an unpublished test chart and the song wasn't actually #46 or even on the chart) I didn't even realize BEP made such a huge jump!!!! Yay two top-5 hits from the album so far :) |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Mar 24, 2011 8:31:52 GMT -5
What was the last one? Elton John? (Sorry, it's probably been said somewhere but too lazy to search :) ) EDIT: Probably I'm Your Angel although it coincided with the new chart rules. "I'm You're Angel" doesn't count as a #1 debut (anymore) since on the chart it appears to have jumped from 46-1 on it's 6th chart week (even though the last weeks/weeks on column reflect an unpublished test chart and the song wasn't actually #46 or even on the chart) I didn't even realize BEP made such a huge jump!!!! Yay two top-5 hits from the album so far :) Test chart doesn't count. Sorry there is a real chart and on the real chart it was a #1 debut. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Mar 24, 2011 8:37:02 GMT -5
Katy will get #1 next week then Rihanna....then maybe Katy again.
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Post by kylecburke on Mar 24, 2011 9:37:48 GMT -5
i dont get all the love for ET...I mean I like this album, and loved the first 3 #1's...but this song..just doesn't feel like it compares...Am i the only one? I hope she re-releases this album and milks it because its been a great era for her :)
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Post by Tea-why on Mar 24, 2011 9:43:40 GMT -5
"I'm You're Angel" doesn't count as a #1 debut (anymore) since on the chart it appears to have jumped from 46-1 on it's 6th chart week (even though the last weeks/weeks on column reflect an unpublished test chart and the song wasn't actually #46 or even on the chart) I didn't even realize BEP made such a huge jump!!!! Yay two top-5 hits from the album so far :) Test chart doesn't count. Sorry there is a real chart and on the real chart it was a #1 debut. Billboard doesn't count "I'm Your Angel" as a #1 Debut:
'ANGEL' ON HIGH?Hi Gary, I was wondering why R. Kelly and Celine Dion's "I'm Your Angel" wasn't listed among the No. 1 Hot 100 debuts listed in Chart Beat Wednesday. I remember that this song had the distinction of making an "invisible" jump to No. 1 when Billboard revised chart policy to allow non-commercially-available singles to chart in 1998. Thanks, Garrett Godbey Tampa, Florida Hi Garrett, For a detailed explanation as to why Billboard does not consider "I'm Your Angel" a No. 1 debut on the Hot 100, I asked Billboard Director of Charts and Hot 100 chart manager Silvio Pietroluongo. Here is his response on the intricacies of the song's chart history: "The Hot 100 implemented a drastic methodology change in the issue dated Dec. 5, 1998, allowing airplay-only tracks to chart. Before this issue, only songs available for purchase as a physical single were eligible to appear on the Hot 100. "On the printed chart dated Dec. 5, 1998, 'last week' rankings and weeks-on-chart totals, including those for those songs that had yet to chart, reflected what they would have been had Billboard used this new methodology in prior weeks. Therefore, 'I'm Your Angel' was shown to jump from 46-1. It just so happened that the song was made available as a single in that chart's tracking week, causing it to jump from its airplay-based No. 46 position to No. 1. "So, while the title's first week on the Hot 100 was at No. 1, the chart of record for Dec. 5, 1998, treated it as a move to No. 1, not a debut. Because of that, we are not counting it among official Hot 100 No. 1 debuts." (http://www.billboard.com/#/news/ask-billboard-britney-s-latest-greatest-1004023229.story) |
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 24, 2011 12:41:57 GMT -5
There are clearly two camps about that and I myself belong to the one who considers it as a #1 debut which just happened on that particular week and had the previous week positions only unofficially and only BECAUSE of the new rules. Am I correct in thinking that if it had been released as a single the week before it'd be "a genuine" #1 debut?
(sorry this is taking a bit off-topic route)
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Post by David on Mar 24, 2011 13:18:44 GMT -5
Why do people say "well I do/don't count it..", etc. It's not your chart, it's Billboards. It doesn't matter you think or consider. Lol
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Post by crystalphnx on Mar 24, 2011 14:04:22 GMT -5
unless it rebounds in the coming weeks, it looks like HIAM only managed 9 weeks in the Top 40.  what's the last No. 1 song to have such a short run in the Top 40? Taylor Hicks' "Do I Make You Proud"? |
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Post by Black Jesus on Mar 24, 2011 14:23:58 GMT -5
what's the last No. 1 song to have such a short run in the Top 40? Taylor Hicks' "Do I Make You Proud"?  |
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Post by badrobot on Mar 24, 2011 14:43:52 GMT -5
unless it rebounds in the coming weeks, it looks like HIAM only managed 9 weeks in the Top 40. what's the last No. 1 song to have such a short run in the Top 40? Taylor Hicks' "Do I Make You Proud"? Eminem's Crack a Bottle had a 9-week top 40 run. It also spent 1 less week (4 total) in the top ten than HIAM. |
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Post by crystalphnx on Mar 24, 2011 15:05:47 GMT -5
unless it rebounds in the coming weeks, it looks like HIAM only managed 9 weeks in the Top 40. what's the last No. 1 song to have such a short run in the Top 40? Taylor Hicks' "Do I Make You Proud"? Eminem's Crack a Bottle had a 9-week top 40 run. It also spent 1 less week (4 total) in the top ten than HIAM. ah, thank you! I did some digging and found its chart run on UKMix: Crack A Bottle: = 78 - 78 - 78 - *1* - 3 - 5 - 8 - 11 - 18 - 22 - 28 - 36 - 42 - 49 - 74 - 76 - 86 - OUT HIAM: = *1* - 6 - 8 - 10 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 16 - 30 - 43 - ? |
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Post by badrobot on Mar 24, 2011 15:25:04 GMT -5
Another question -- how many #1s spent only 1 week in the top 5?
Even Taylor Hicks spent 2 weeks in the top 5.
(I am not trying to disparage Hold It Against Me -- I just think this is interesting info.)
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Post by crystalphnx on Mar 24, 2011 15:59:41 GMT -5
Another question -- how many #1s spent only 1 week in the top 5? Even Taylor Hicks spent 2 weeks in the top 5. (I am not trying to disparage Hold It Against Me -- I just think this is interesting info.) I don't know its full Hot 100 chart run, but Fantasia's "I Believe" fell from No. 1 ---> No. 6. source |
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Post by jink on Mar 24, 2011 16:24:48 GMT -5
Another question -- how many #1s spent only 1 week in the top 5? Even Taylor Hicks spent 2 weeks in the top 5. (I am not trying to disparage Hold It Against Me -- I just think this is interesting info.) I don't know its full Hot 100 chart run, but Fantasia's "I Believe" fell from No. 1 ---> No. 6. source1-6-18-34-44-54-66-80-88-98. |
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Post by pnobelysk on Mar 24, 2011 20:06:07 GMT -5
what's the last No. 1 song to have such a short run in the Top 40? Taylor Hicks' "Do I Make You Proud"? glee hasnt had a number one on the hot 100 |
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Post by pnobelysk on Mar 24, 2011 20:07:02 GMT -5
unless it rebounds in the coming weeks, it looks like HIAM only managed 9 weeks in the Top 40. what's the last No. 1 song to have such a short run in the Top 40? Taylor Hicks' "Do I Make You Proud"? it ll likley rebound during her promo week and get a big digital boost to get her back in there |
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Post by Black Jesus on Mar 24, 2011 20:39:23 GMT -5
glee hasnt had a number one on the hot 100 .....i know. It was meant for more of an "are you serious" effect |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 24, 2011 21:30:36 GMT -5
"Hold it Against Me" really didn't turn out to have legs, at least compared to the last album's lead single. And, the second single more than likely will not peak as high in airplay. In turn, I imagine the album could scan somewhere between what Blackout and Circus did.
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Post by Heartless Angel on Mar 24, 2011 21:33:13 GMT -5
Why do people say "well I do/don't count it..", etc. It's not your chart, it's Billboards. It doesn't matter you think or consider. Lol +1  |
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Post by Kishi KCM on Mar 24, 2011 21:45:47 GMT -5
what's the last No. 1 song to have such a short run in the Top 40? Taylor Hicks' "Do I Make You Proud"? You get 1000 points and two snaps for the .gif, YAZZ! |
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Post by crystalphnx on Mar 24, 2011 23:04:00 GMT -5
glee hasnt had a number one on the hot 100 .....i know. It was meant for more of an "are you serious" effect funny ;) but I don't get what was so crazy about what I asked. I did forget about "Crack A Bottle", which someone else helpfully pointed out, but before CAB, wasn't Hicks' single the last No. 1 to spend less than 10 weeks in the Top 40? or are there several others since 2006 that I'm forgetting...? |
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Post by jebsib on Mar 25, 2011 7:24:47 GMT -5
Joel Whitburn treats "I'm Your Angel" as a # 1 debut. That's pretty big in the chart world.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 25, 2011 8:42:30 GMT -5
I don't know anyone even goes on about No. 1 Hot 100 debuts. I mean, look at some of the tracks that did debut at No. 1- hardly long-lasting, revered hits in most cases. Plus, it's only because of a 1995 rule change that made it possible for singles to enter on top. There was that stretch, and then the rules changed again to make it less common (outside of American Idol singles). Something like "Born This Way" debuting at No. 1- yeah, that's a pretty big deal as it literally did it out of the gate, when both airplay and sales happened simultaneously.
So, "I'm Your Angel" was a No. 1 on the Hot 100- all that matters in the end, regardless of whether it moved from 46 on the previous week's test chart and then to No. 1, or appeared at No. 1 for the first time with the published 12/5/98 chart.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2011 9:24:49 GMT -5
I don't know anyone even goes on about No. 1 Hot 100 debuts. I mean, look at some of the tracks that did debut at No. 1- hardly long-lasting, revered hits in most cases. Plus, it's only because of a 1995 rule change that made it possible for singles to enter on top. There was that stretch, and then the rules changed again to make it less common (outside of American Idol singles). Something like "Born This Way" debuting at No. 1- yeah, that's a pretty big deal as it literally did it out of the gate, when both airplay and sales happened simultaneously. So, "I'm Your Angel" was a No. 1 on the Hot 100- all that matters in the end, regardless of whether it moved from 46 on the previous week's test chart and then to No. 1, or appeared at No. 1 for the first time with the published 12/5/98 chart. HIAM was also out of the gate. |
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Post by badrobot on Mar 25, 2011 10:25:46 GMT -5
^I think HG is referencing that BTW literally appeared on no charts at all before debuting at #1. Hold It Against Me debuted on bubbling under the week before.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2011 10:56:49 GMT -5
^I think HG is referencing that BTW literally appeared on no charts at all before debuting at #1. Hold It Against Me debuted on bubbling under the week before. It was bubbling under because it had one day of airplay at the end of the week, before going on itunes. Born This Way would have been bubbling under too (actually, it probably would have debuted) if it was released to radio on Monday. |
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Post by badrobot on Mar 25, 2011 11:34:08 GMT -5
Well, there's a slight difference.
HIAM debuted on bubbling under with a day or two of airplay, then debut on the Hot 100 at #1 after 7 days of airplay and sales.
BTW debuted at #1 on the Hot 100 with 3 days of sales and 5 days of airplay.
HIAM may not have hit #1 at all had it been released a few days earlier or later -- it was perfectly timed to spend just one week at #1.
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