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Post by walker on Apr 15, 2011 14:39:17 GMT -5
just listened to it... then gave it a second listen. This is probably her worst single in my opinion, and her most annoying. Its like she tried to recreate "Bad Romance" but failed (and i didn't think Bad Romance was all that great). But its Gaga, so she will create a controversial music video, which will push the song to #1
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Post by amphetamine on Apr 15, 2011 14:39:28 GMT -5
trying too hard to be bad romance
juuu das ju-da-as ga-ga lolwat
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Apr 15, 2011 14:40:06 GMT -5
It won't end up at #1. It would have to sell as much BTW if not more. It doesn't have the same hype or anticipation as BTW did and it is a second single. I think it will sell well, but miss #1 by a sizable margin. It will be more interesting to watch and see if this becomes a bigger hit than BTW in the longevity department and hits #1 on pop again.
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Post by NeRD on Apr 15, 2011 14:41:24 GMT -5
I mean...its ok?
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Post by amphetamine on Apr 15, 2011 14:42:07 GMT -5
I also find it funny how she always ends up releasing her songs "early" to cockblock everyone else, what a little prick.
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Post by passionformusic on Apr 15, 2011 14:42:44 GMT -5
This is truly the definition of trying too hard. First thing i thought after listening to it. Chorus kind of saves it for me.
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Post by Kworb on Apr 15, 2011 14:44:51 GMT -5
She just keeps educating the mainstream, introducing them to new sounds. Initial negativity can be expected. But soon everyone will be jamming to this. How is this new in any sense of the word? It sounds exactly the same as pretty much everything else that's been on the radio the past 1-2 years. How can you say that? This song will stand out even more on radio than Bad Romance and Born This Way did. The beat during the verses is a new extreme when it comes to electronic music incorporated in pop, and the chorus is an even riskier 80s throwback sound than Born This Way. The result is an absolutely unique and classic pop song.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Apr 15, 2011 14:44:58 GMT -5
Oh and I am happy Gaga and Britney are releasing music about the bad men in your life you cannot shake. It really, really applies to my life right now!
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Post by hitseeker. on Apr 15, 2011 14:45:11 GMT -5
I love it on the second listen, but you can barely understand what she's saying in the verses and on some parts, the production is a bit too much IMO, but I'll take it :)
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Post by KMJ1 on Apr 15, 2011 14:45:42 GMT -5
ok...this is just AWFUL lol. Sorry. Just...think Ill stop there lol but will say, Cyndi Lauper-ville I think were heading to more and more by the minute! BTW is stellar compared to this.
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Post by KMJ1 on Apr 15, 2011 14:49:21 GMT -5
It won't end up at #1. It would have to sell as much BTW if not more. It doesn't have the same hype or anticipation as BTW did and it is a second single. I think it will sell well, but miss #1 by a sizable margin. It will be more interesting to watch and see if this becomes a bigger hit than BTW in the longevity department and hits #1 on pop again. Rihanna should have NOTHIN to worry about now lol. At 1st when i read this leaked I thought if the song was at least decent or better Rihanna would have to be watchin her back. But I think shes got it now lol.
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Post by out of reach on Apr 15, 2011 14:51:31 GMT -5
How is this new in any sense of the word? It sounds exactly the same as pretty much everything else that's been on the radio the past 1-2 years. How can you say that? This song will stand out even more on radio than Bad Romance and Born This Way did. The beat during the verses is a new extreme when it comes to electronic music incorporated in pop, and the chorus is an even riskier 80s throwback sound than Born This Way. The result is an absolutely unique and classic pop song. i don't know about that, the song is infectious in parts but is very underwhelming for me, weak lyrics overall. I'm sure it will get airplay and sales because it's Gaga but this is not on a level of BR or PF imo.
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Post by Pikachu. on Apr 15, 2011 14:52:08 GMT -5
Lol now I really hate the verses. They're just so ... Unsingable. That does not do well in my book.
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Post by tsw2008 on Apr 15, 2011 14:52:20 GMT -5
Bad Romance rehash. Juda-a-a-a-as,etc The religious references are there just for shock value, it's a gimmick. Pathetic if you ask me.
It will be a hit, little monsters + controversial video + momentum = #1.
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Post by blue in moonlight on Apr 15, 2011 14:52:24 GMT -5
The chorus is the only portion of this track that seems reminiscent of her previous hits. Perhaps that's why it's the most underwhelming part to me. It appears that she's trying to further establish her signature sound with this sort of melodic chorus.
I'm not getting the "she's trying recreate Bad Romance" conjecture but assume it's just the knee jerk reaction from the chorus sounding familiar. This is probably a smart tactic to woo back some of those who claimed to be put-off by BTW for whatever reason. Regardless, "Judas" is plenty distinct from anything on TF and TFM yet seems like a natural progression.
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Post by NeRD on Apr 15, 2011 14:53:10 GMT -5
This would have to sell at least as much as BTW did its first three days of release to be a serious contender for #1, which I dont think is possible at this point.
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Post by Feelin'.$$$hady on Apr 15, 2011 14:54:55 GMT -5
Chorus kind of saves it for me. really? I like the verses way better than the chorus. idk She has 1 thing going for her. Her songs are incredibly catchy, it's almost disgusting how catchy the songs are. Especially this one. So kudos to her for that. And i totally think this is going to No.1. How could it not? i'm already completely brainwashed after 5 listens with Judas-Juda-aaaaa-s-Judas-juda-aaaaa-s
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Post by When I Ruled the World on Apr 15, 2011 14:55:10 GMT -5
I love all the people hatin' on this song.
This will smash much more than BTW (which I have always said was a subpar Gaga release).
This song is brilliant pop. It is in no way subpar.
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Post by blue in moonlight on Apr 15, 2011 14:56:39 GMT -5
Where are you guys finding on U.S. iTunes?!?
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Post by bigb0882 on Apr 15, 2011 14:58:07 GMT -5
I'm just going to pretend Judas did not happen and wait patiently to hear Government Hooker.
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Post by When I Ruled the World on Apr 15, 2011 14:58:08 GMT -5
Where are you guys finding on U.S. iTunes?!? It's on the front page, but no banner. Under "new this week".
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Post by bibliotheque on Apr 15, 2011 14:58:25 GMT -5
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Post by Pikachu. on Apr 15, 2011 14:58:45 GMT -5
It's not just the chorus actually. 'JudasJudaGaGa'='RahRah', 'ohohoh in love with judas' = 'ohohoh caught in a bad romance', judas bridge = don't wanna be friends. And both have similar weird verses.
By = I mean sound similar, so don't kill me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2011 15:01:04 GMT -5
and I'm just a holy fool oh baby y... sounds like "I'm your biggest fan I'll follow" from Paparazzi.
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Post by passionformusic on Apr 15, 2011 15:05:18 GMT -5
Chorus kind of saves it for me. really? I like the verses way better than the chorus. idk She has 1 thing going for her. Her songs are incredibly catchy, it's almost disgusting how catchy the songs are. Especially this one. So kudos to her for that. And i totally think this is going to No.1. How could it not? i'm already completely brainwashed after 5 listens with Judas-Juda-aaaaa-s-Judas-juda-aaaaa-s Well. Its nice and melodic. Hate her voice in verses. Plus all the mess that is going on musically while she is singtalking through it. Just too much for me.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Apr 15, 2011 15:07:34 GMT -5
My initial thoughts:
I feel like because the song sounds so weird on the first listen, it's going to turn a lot of people off for the first few listens. So I expect comments to be fairly mixed or negative. However, in my experiences, it's the weird parts of songs that grow on me the most. I can't tell you how many songs I've listened to that had specific aspects of them that I hated on the first listen only to have that part of the song be the most memorable and eventually be my favourite part of that song. Judas has a LOT of that. Weird aspects that initially are "what was she thinking" but will be classic. Bad Romance is another example.
Speaking of BR, this song does have quite a similar arrangement. Well, nearly the same. The melodies aren't the same but you can sing BR over Judas pretty reliably.
As for its chart performance, I feel like it could have debuted at #1 had it not leaked or gotten radio play until Monday because it could have benefitted from a bigger chart week. Instead, it might debut at #20 or something on the Hot 100 and then #1 the week after?
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Post by Stephen on Apr 15, 2011 15:11:16 GMT -5
LMAO. She's an idiot. This song is going to be the start of the end. I'll bet anything that "Marry the Night" or whatever it's called is the pop anthem a la BR and she chose to pass it up for this because she thought she could pull it off. Nope. This is not gonna end well Gagz.
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Post by SuperTrouper on Apr 15, 2011 15:12:25 GMT -5
She just keeps educating the mainstream, introducing them to new sounds. Wow, this is so fascinating, I have never seen someone so delusional before. FBI should abduct you and experiment on you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2011 15:14:12 GMT -5
She just keeps educating the mainstream, introducing them to new sounds. Wow, this is so fascinating, I have never seen someone so delusional before. FBI should abduct you and experiment on you. I think Kworb was joking?
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 15, 2011 15:14:17 GMT -5
it's already beginning to burn on me, i need to stop listening to it.
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