Epic Fail
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Post by Epic Fail on Apr 23, 2011 14:33:41 GMT -5
while im thrilled Ri got her 10th #1, S&M to me REALLY did not deserve #1 lol. Top 10, yes, but not #1. It peaked at #3 in the UK and thats the highest it shoulda gone everywhere else. It obviously was a calculated business move to get her that #1 and it worked effectively. Shes got the same kinda shwered chart experts on her team like Mimi had most of her career. Difference is Rihanna is only 23 and has 10 number 1s while I dont think Mimi was in or around 10 #1s at 23. whatever. It still would have peaked at #2 on the Hot 100 without the remix. And, it was #1 in airplay and pop. Move on. It's a great song and deserves the success it has had. |
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Post by Honeymoon on Apr 23, 2011 15:24:56 GMT -5
I don't get the argument that it only deserved (better move the conversation out of the way quickly before HolidayGuy jumps in) to peak at #2. Yeah releasing the remix out of nowhere at convenient timing right as it was peaking was a curious move but at the end of the day X amount of people were interested/bought the single willingly to get it to #1. And it's not like it moved from out of the top 10/20/40 to grab the #1 spot, it was already a MASSIVE hit, her team was just capitalizing on it. No big deal.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Apr 23, 2011 16:41:54 GMT -5
UPDATE: Britney will only get credit during the week/s when the remix sells more than the original. Link: www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/ask-billboard-britney-spears-rihanna-hits-1005150552.story#/column/chartbeat/ask-billboard-britney-spears-rihanna-hits-1005150552.story"We may reconsider artist listings on a week-to-week basis and adjust accordingly, based on which version is a given week's top seller. A similar chart precedent even exists: for past listings of double-sided singles on the Hot 100, the first-listed titles could flip-flop based on which was the dominant selling side (based on retail reports) week-to-week. "The case of 'S&M' isn't the last such a late-in-the-game guest artist remix that we'll see, either; a remix of Spears' 'Till the World Ends' - sporting Ke$ha and Nicki Minaj - arrives next week." At least we now have a clear rule given that remixing a a single is now becoming another trend. So will Brit fan forgive Billboard for the Blackout "snub" now that she got a #1 single handed to her? LOL |
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Post by $uperb@tDuDe on Apr 23, 2011 17:27:54 GMT -5
Um so yeah, Katy will be #1 for a LONNNNNNNNNG time
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Post by Lockheart on Apr 23, 2011 17:35:17 GMT -5
UPDATE: Britney will only get credit during the week/s when the remix sells more than the original. Link: www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/ask-billboard-britney-spears-rihanna-hits-1005150552.story#/column/chartbeat/ask-billboard-britney-spears-rihanna-hits-1005150552.story"We may reconsider artist listings on a week-to-week basis and adjust accordingly, based on which version is a given week's top seller. A similar chart precedent even exists: for past listings of double-sided singles on the Hot 100, the first-listed titles could flip-flop based on which was the dominant selling side (based on retail reports) week-to-week. "The case of 'S&M' isn't the last such a late-in-the-game guest artist remix that we'll see, either; a remix of Spears' 'Till the World Ends' - sporting Ke$ha and Nicki Minaj - arrives next week." At least we now have a clear rule given that remixing a a single is now becoming another trend. So will Brit fan forgive Billboard for the Blackout "snub" now that she got a #1 single handed to her? LOL Uhm, it was more like... Britney helped Rihanna get the #1. This must be note-worthy right? S&M remix to have one week on the chart. The original is selling more than the remix atm. BB will not let the remix chart as a different single, so S&M original will chart next week |
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Post by Envoirment on Apr 23, 2011 17:42:04 GMT -5
Um so yeah, Katy will be #1 for a LONNNNNNNNNG time Don't be too sure about that. BEP & Adele are coming fast. Although I think Katy will last another 2 weeks. |
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Post by seanblain on Apr 23, 2011 18:06:08 GMT -5
while im thrilled Ri got her 10th #1, S&M to me REALLY did not deserve #1 lol. Top 10, yes, but not #1. It peaked at #3 in the UK and thats the highest it shoulda gone everywhere else. It obviously was a calculated business move to get her that #1 and it worked effectively. Shes got the same kinda shwered chart experts on her team like Mimi had most of her career. Difference is Rihanna is only 23 and has 10 number 1s while I dont think Mimi was in or around 10 #1s at 23. Not the "deserve" argument again  Mariah was 25 when she got her 10th #1. |
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Post by beautynumber2 on Apr 23, 2011 18:09:42 GMT -5
Omg. "S&M" being #1 is not negotiable. Seriously. #1 on sales, #1 on airplay..... that's a #1 song. This is out of control. Certain artists just can't win with the amount of STANS Beyonce other artists have. I knew it would continue to happen. #1 on sales and airplay and Rihanna STILL gets hate from all her contemporaries' stans saying she doens't deserve it, or she isn't worthy, or it's unjustified, or it's not fair. It's out of control. If you want to talk about unfair, then every song that was ever #1 without being both #1 on airplay and #1 on sales simultaneously doens't "deserve" it either. This is OUT OF CONTROL. There are few instances where another song "deserves" to have a higher position, but that's just the way it is. All i can say is eat it, b*tch.
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Post by seanblain on Apr 23, 2011 18:43:26 GMT -5
With her 10th #1 on the Hot 100, Rihanna is already in some very select company. How many weeks have her songs spent at #1. Below are the artist with the most weeks at #1 on the Hot 100.
1. Mariah Carey--79
2. The Beatles--59
3. Boyz II Men--50
4. Usher--43
5. Michael Jackson--37
6. Elton John--34
7. Janet Jackson--33
8. Beyonce--32
Madonna--32
10. Whitney Houston--31
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Post by Choco on Apr 23, 2011 18:50:31 GMT -5
SOS - 4 weeks
Umbrella - 7 weeks
Take a Bow - 1 week
Disturbia - 2 weeks
Live Your Life - 6 weeks
Rude Boy - 5 weeks
Love The Way You Lie - 7 weeks
Only Girl - 1 week
What's My Name - 1 week
S&M - 1 week.
35 weeks at #1. That would put her at #6, 1 week behind Michael.
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Post by seanblain on Apr 23, 2011 18:54:48 GMT -5
ARTISTS WITH THE MOST WEEKS AT #1 ON THE HOT 100
1. Mariah Carey--79
2. The Beatles--59
3. Boyz II Men--50
4. Usher--43
5. Michael Jackson--37
6. Rihanna--35
7. Elton John--34
8. Janet Jackson--33
9. Beyonce--32
Madonna--32
11. Whitney Houston--31
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2011 19:01:34 GMT -5
ARTISTS WITH THE MOST WEEKS AT #1 ON THE HOT 100 1. Mariah Carey--79 2. The Beatles--59 3. Boyz II Men--50 4. Usher--43 5. Michael Jackson--37 6. Rihanna--35 7. Elton John--34 8. Janet Jackson--33 9. Beyonce--32 Madonna--32 11. Whitney Houston--31 If you count pre-Hot 100 charts, Elvis is tied with Mariah for the most weeks at #1. |
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Post by seanblain on Apr 23, 2011 19:09:58 GMT -5
^^ This is not a pre-hot 100 thread..lol
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Post by Lockheart on Apr 23, 2011 19:15:08 GMT -5
We also have to take into consideration weeks:#1 ratio. I believe Boyz II Men only had like 5 or 6 #1s and most have spent close to 10 weeks each
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2011 19:18:26 GMT -5
^^ This is not a pre-hot 100 thread..lol No kidding. But to negate Elvis' great achievements just because he happened to have achieved most of them before the Hot 100 existed, seems short sighted, and doesn't give a full picture of rock/pop history. |
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Post by seanblain on Apr 23, 2011 19:22:41 GMT -5
^^ This is not a pre-hot 100 thread..lol No kidding. But to negate Elvis' great achievements just because he happened to have achieved most of them before the Hot 100 existed, seems short sighted, and doesn't give a full picture of rock/pop history. The list is not debatable. that's why it's called the "Hot 100" list. Why not go back to the 1800's then. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2011 19:26:57 GMT -5
No kidding. But to negate Elvis' great achievements just because he happened to have achieved most of them before the Hot 100 existed, seems short sighted, and doesn't give a full picture of rock/pop history. The list is not debatable. that's why it's called the "Hot 100" list. Why not go back to the 1800's then. Not debatable? LOL anal much? Whatever. It's not like I put it on the list itself, I just added it in my own post. Your precious list hasn't been altered in any way. And refusing to acknowledge its existence, doesn't mean it didn't happen either. Billboard counts pre-Hot 100 charts, not exactly sure what your problem is with them. |
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Post by jamrock16 on Apr 23, 2011 19:34:12 GMT -5
ARTISTS WITH THE MOST WEEKS AT #1 ON THE HOT 100 1. Mariah Carey--79 2. The Beatles--59 3. Boyz II Men--50 4. Usher--43 5. Michael Jackson--37 6. Rihanna--35 7. Elton John--34 8. Janet Jackson--33 9. Beyonce--32 Madonna--32 11. Whitney Houston--31 Small correction, Beyonce should be #6 w/ 36 weeks. Crazy In Love-8 weeks Baby Boy- 9 weeks Check On It-5 weeks Irreplaceable-10 weeks Single Ladies-4 weeks |
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Post by seanblain on Apr 23, 2011 19:36:22 GMT -5
The list is not debatable. that's why it's called the "Hot 100" list. Why not go back to the 1800's then. Not debatable? LOL anal much? Whatever. It's not like I put it on the list itself, I just added it in my own post. Your precious list hasn't been altered in any way. And refusing to acknowledge its existence, doesn't mean it didn't happen either. Billboard counts pre-Hot 100 charts, not exactly sure what your problem is with them. ^^Some people can argue about anything. Anyways the corrected list is below ARTISTS WITH THE MOST WEEKS AT #1 ON THE HOT 100 1. Mariah Carey--79 2. The Beatles--59 3. Boyz II Men--50 4. Usher--43 5. Michael Jackson--37 6. Beyonce--36 7. Rihanna--35 8. Elton John--34 9. Janet Jackson--33 10. Madonna--32 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2011 19:51:18 GMT -5
Not debatable? LOL anal much? Whatever. It's not like I put it on the list itself, I just added it in my own post. Your precious list hasn't been altered in any way. And refusing to acknowledge its existence, doesn't mean it didn't happen either. Billboard counts pre-Hot 100 charts, not exactly sure what your problem is with them. ^^Some people can argue about anything. Anyways the corrected list is below ARTISTS WITH THE MOST WEEKS AT #1 ON THE HOT 100 1. Mariah Carey--79 2. The Beatles--59 3. Boyz II Men--50 4. Usher--43 5. Michael Jackson--37 6. Beyonce--36 7. Rihanna--35 8. Elton John--34 9. Janet Jackson--33 10. Madonna--32 Only have as many #1's as Rihanna, and she's spent more time at #1! Go Bey! Lol! And Does that make Britney the only artists ever to spend 1 week on the chart with a #1 song...lol |
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Post by pokepikalem on Apr 23, 2011 20:15:24 GMT -5
i think it should be sth like "most week at #1 as a lead artist".
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Post by crystalphnx on Apr 23, 2011 20:59:28 GMT -5
SOS - 4 weeks Umbrella - 7 weeks Take a Bow - 1 week Disturbia - 2 weeks Live Your Life - 6 weeks Rude Boy - 5 weeks Love The Way You Lie - 7 weeks Only Girl - 1 week What's My Name - 1 week S&M - 1 week. 35 weeks at #1. That would put her at #6, 1 week behind Michael. minor edit: "SOS" only managed 3 weeks at No. 1, so Rihanna's total is actually 34 weeks. that would put her at No. 8 on the list, tied with Elton. |
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Post by pokepikalem on Apr 23, 2011 21:36:50 GMT -5
15. BRUNO MARS - Grenade: 60.335 (- 0.804) ▼
16. BRUNO MARS - Just The Way You Are: 57.455 (- 0.383)
JTWYA :/
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Post by BlueSwan on Apr 24, 2011 5:29:24 GMT -5
We also have to take into consideration weeks:#1 ratio. I believe Boyz II Men only had like 5 or 6 #1s and most have spent close to 10 weeks each Indeed: End Of The Road - 13 weeks I'll Make Love To You - 14 weeks One Sweet Day - 16 weeks On Bended Knee - 6 weeks 4 Seasons Of Loneliness - 1 week Some crazy chart runs. Their first three #1's totalled 43 weeks at #1. |
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Post by discoloser on Apr 24, 2011 5:48:56 GMT -5
Somebody please help me, is radio adds for 'Judas' still the 26th?
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Post by bibliotheque on Apr 24, 2011 8:05:39 GMT -5
Somebody please help me, is radio adds for 'Judas' still the 26th? Yes |
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Post by Oprah on Apr 24, 2011 8:11:00 GMT -5
I would love it if Adele snagged the top spot this week. These few weeks have certainly been interesting, much as this big name remix thing seems like a cheap scam it makes everything much funner.
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Post by kingofpain on Apr 24, 2011 8:18:54 GMT -5
I don't think Adele had enough of a sales lead this week.. she didn't have the benefit of having two versions available. Her airplay gains match Katy's so she's not getting closer to matching it anytime soon. Her sales have to be a LOT stronger if there's any hope....
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 24, 2011 8:45:31 GMT -5
"Rolling in the Deep" already has surpassed most expectations, so falling short of the top spot ain't nothing to be disappointed by. Naturally, it would be a nice addition to the No. 1 album, but other than that...
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Post by felipe on Apr 24, 2011 9:21:24 GMT -5
^ Lol. In what world is 2 million considered a flop? Cause your condescending post makes it sound like you're trying to call it a flop. If a song sells 2 million copies it's not a flop, but it's far from a huge smash hit. |
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Mariah was 25 when she got her 10th #1.
