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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 18, 2011 23:37:15 GMT -5
Apple Announces iTunes -- MATCH!Apple announces iTunes Match music service for $24.99 per year By AppleInsider Staff Published: 02:55 PM EST Apple's new iTunes Match service will scan a user's library of songs, including those ripped from their own CDs, and match the songs up with the library of 18 million songs available through iTunes for $24.99 per year. iTunes Match offers the same benefits to personally ripped CDs as is granted to music purchased through the iTunes Store. Apple's software will scan a user's hard drive to identify the music they have saved locally. Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs boasted that the new service will take just minutes to match up songs with the cloud. He ribbed other, competing offerings from Google and Amazon, which take "weeks" to upload extensive music collections. As was previously rumored, users will not need to upload songs, as their content will simply be matched up with the high-quality 256Kbps AAC audio files Apple has stored on its own iTunes servers. Anything that can be matched up is upgraded to the higher quality, without any digital rights management. Any songs that don't match up with content available on iTunes will be uploaded and stored so that users can access them on the go. Jobs said that iTunes Match is an "industry leading offer," with a flat price of $24.99 per year no matter how many songs users may have on their computer. Shown in concert with the new service were photos of Apple's $1 billion data center in North Carolina. Jobs showed off the eco-friendly facility as evidence that Apple is "serious" about this new product.
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Post by Wolfy on May 19, 2011 20:02:16 GMT -5
I'm not sure how popular this will be. I leave my computer on and have access to all my music via my iPhone audioscrobbler app. That's pretty much the same thing as the iCloud. The difference being that this one is free and you have access to all the music on your comp. With ZumoCast I can also stream video from my comp to my iPhone, along with documents. Its all free, so I don't see the big appeal of iCloud. Its only good for people that don't want to leave their comp on.
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on May 19, 2011 21:20:07 GMT -5
Plus with apple's Service you will hopefully be able to access Music, Documents, Pictures using one app, or however they decide to integrate the service.
No Details yet but rumour has it, they are going to make mobileme free. SO you will be able to access it through it.
It will be interesting to see how they integrate it within the iDevices. especially the iphone. So excited about this.
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Post by Wolfy on May 20, 2011 1:56:45 GMT -5
Plus with apple's Service you will hopefully be able to access Music, Documents, Pictures using one app, or however they decide to integrate the service. No Details yet but rumour has it, they are going to make mobileme free. SO you will be able to access it through it. It will be interesting to see how they integrate it within the iDevices. especially the iphone. So excited about this. You can already do all that for free, if you're willing to leave your computer on. For an actual cloud, you can do that at zumodrive.com. But only the first 2GB's are free.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 20, 2011 8:22:40 GMT -5
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Post by David on May 20, 2011 12:08:54 GMT -5
I'm very interested in this. Also, we have had several different threads on this iCloud thing. Can we just have one thread for discussion and news? I just prefer to have everything be in one simple thread.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 20, 2011 19:00:05 GMT -5
iCloud June releaseThe biggest problem I see with the cloud music trend is all the data that users will use up. It makes no sense at all to go this route when companies are charging a s**t load for data. People will see when they get their phone bill and it's insanely high because of the data.
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Post by spooky21 on May 24, 2011 3:25:34 GMT -5
It will be very interesting to see how cloud based services end up. The benefits of this is that there is a lot less dependency on personal storage based devices (i.e. gigs and hard drives) which would revolutionize the size and design of gadgets. The biggest challenge though is convincing people that what they own doesn't need to physically be on their person or personal devices.
I'm not sure we are quite there yet but I think it is the way of the future.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 24, 2011 17:15:34 GMT -5
It will be very interesting to see how cloud based services end up. The benefits of this is that there is a lot less dependency on personal storage based devices (i.e. gigs and hard drives) which would revolutionize the size and design of gadgets. The biggest challenge though is convincing people that what they own doesn't need to physically be on their person or personal devices. I'm not sure we are quite there yet but I think it is the way of the future. I like having the option to have it on me as data is expensive. Companies are doing tiered data plans now. That's why I think the whole streaming Itunes thing in general will not be that big until there is universal wifi everywhere. It is a great fail safe for when you do need to stream something.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 31, 2011 9:25:40 GMT -5
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 1, 2011 16:42:54 GMT -5
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Jun 1, 2011 19:24:16 GMT -5
but Steaming will still likely be charged. The license fee apple pays the labels needs to be recouped
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 2, 2011 15:49:09 GMT -5
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Post by Wolfy on Jun 2, 2011 18:06:59 GMT -5
but Steaming will still likely be charged. The license fee apple pays the labels needs to be recouped That's another problem, outside of free wifi, its going to cost alot to stream your music. Whereas its much easier to just add your music to your iphone. Streaming will only be appealing for people that don't want to download and sync their music on their iphone/ipad. I also hope their streaming is reliable. I've used most streaming apps on my iphone and they almost all have problems. Streaming will be popular when its reliable and cheap. It will never be cheap since Apple will need to pay a lot of money for the bandwidth to stream music in HQ to millions of iphones and ipods.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 3, 2011 9:11:55 GMT -5
but Steaming will still likely be charged. The license fee apple pays the labels needs to be recouped That's another problem, outside of free wifi, its going to cost alot to stream your music. Whereas its much easier to just add your music to your iphone. Streaming will only be appealing for people that don't want to download and sync their music on their iphone/ipad. I also hope their streaming is reliable. I've used most streaming apps on my iphone and they almost all have problems. Streaming will be popular when its reliable and cheap. It will never be cheap since Apple will need to pay a lot of money for the bandwidth to stream music in HQ to millions of iphones and ipods. It has nothing to do with apple the money is in the data....
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Jun 3, 2011 12:36:19 GMT -5
Hopefully the networks will introduce data plans that will help make streaming more affordable.
I hope they reconsider unlimited data usage.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 3, 2011 13:10:57 GMT -5
^Was just reading on AI that iCloud supposedly would offload the data center processing from carriers which would be HUGE if successful. Then I guess you would pay apple a much cheaper rate to use it's streaming service and not worry about the data. That would change the game if true. I am nervous for monday as I don't understand completely what this all means just yet. also.... www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/03/apple-to-give-music-bigwigs-100m-for-icloud-service/30% - Apple 12% - Labels 58% - Artist For Apple's iCloud Service.
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Jun 3, 2011 14:30:06 GMT -5
^Was just reading on AI that iCloud supposedly would offload the data center processing from carriers which would be HUGE if successful. Then I guess you would pay apple a much cheaper rate to use it's streaming service and not worry about the data. That would change the game if true. I am nervous for monday as I don't understand completely what this all means just yet. also.... www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/03/apple-to-give-music-bigwigs-100m-for-icloud-service/30% - Apple 12% - Labels 58% - Artist For Apple's iCloud Service. Wow that would be pretty awesome. Is that the same fee divide ratio with the current situation on itunes.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 5, 2011 21:58:24 GMT -5
The word on the street is that Apple is replacing iTunes with iCloud. Here
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 6, 2011 13:17:09 GMT -5
They are preparing to talk about iCloud! I am curious as to what they have to say about it.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 6, 2011 13:29:39 GMT -5
iCloud is free...the mobile me part of it.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 6, 2011 13:45:29 GMT -5
Itunes is going to the iCloud! anything you buy can now be downloaded to all your devices automatically without any additional charge.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 13:47:17 GMT -5
I don't understand how iCloud is replacing iTunes. I was under the impression that they were two very different things.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 6, 2011 13:51:48 GMT -5
I don't understand how iCloud is replacing iTunes. I was under the impression that they were two very different things. Itunes is on the ICloud now. So it's an app inside of iCloud now. It's not being replaced...per se... It uses the fact that we've got 18 million songs in the iTunes music store. The chances are good we have the songs you've ripped. So we have software to scan your music and match it with the store. We give that music the same benefits as purchased music. That service will cost $25 bucks per year. So if I download something for free somewhere else and want to put it in the iCloud Apple will match what I've downloaded for a measly $25 bucks per year and upgrade the songs to 256kbps. I'd say the last part is the biggest benefit of iTunes in the iCloud. What does this mean for the Billboard Charts and will this affect the iTunes sales in anyway because customers would be paying for it essentially. i guess it would be separate from the regular charts but it would be interesting to see what people are downloading outside of iTunes. *snicker* You could then really gage the popularity of songs if Apple has some type of popularity meeter for the new iCloud/iTunes syncing service. This makes for organizing music so much better.
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Post by badrobot on Jun 6, 2011 14:17:46 GMT -5
This is really brilliant on the part of Apple. It effectively allows the labels to still get royalties even if you pirated music!
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 6, 2011 14:24:41 GMT -5
This is really brilliant on the part of Apple. It effectively allows the labels to still get royalties even if you pirated music! I wonder if "matched" tunes should get some sort of diminished role on the HOT 100. It would be nice to see what people are downloading illegally/legally through other channels though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 14:28:41 GMT -5
I don't think "matched" songs should count toward the Hot 100 at all because the person could have purchased the song 5 years ago. It's not really a new purchase.
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Post by badrobot on Jun 6, 2011 14:32:05 GMT -5
^Interesting thought -- at the very least, I think the data for "matched" songs will be tracked, if not necessarily included on the Hot 100. After the initial roll out of Match, though, the majority of future "matched" songs would probably be songs the person had just recently downloaded, so the potential for 5-year-old songs suddenly appearing as "new" would be diminished.
They could also circumvent that issue by only counting matches after the initial setup for any given consumer.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 6, 2011 14:48:34 GMT -5
^Good point the code for that should not be a hassle at all.
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Post by Acid Eyes on Jun 6, 2011 15:03:02 GMT -5
Maybe the matched songs could be factored in with streaming on the Hot 100? It's sort of the same idea. That way they count, but not that much.
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