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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jun 23, 2011 7:20:45 GMT -5
So I gather that Katy Perry EP didn't pan out? Not that it would be in the hunt for No. 1, mind you. .... These remix EPs have never really been in contention for the Billboard 200.
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Post by Rodze on Jun 23, 2011 9:04:55 GMT -5
further proof that a CHR hit means nothing when it comes to selling an album. all those hits and all pitbull is going to clock is a miserable 40K This not proof of that. It is proof that a pop hit does not guarantee you, with 100% certainty, huge album sales.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 23, 2011 9:23:59 GMT -5
Pitbull, continuing the tradition of hot singles sales not translating to pent-up demand for the album. Great for Jill Scott- but will Adele's album threaten? So I gather that Katy Perry EP didn't pan out? Not that it would be in the hunt for No. 1, mind you. The Katy Pery EP has been moved to a "November TBD" release date.
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Post by F.A.M.O.U.S. on Jun 23, 2011 10:44:23 GMT -5
further proof that a CHR hit means nothing when it comes to selling an album. all those hits and all pitbull is going to clock is a miserable 40K What proof if that? ??? its not at all suprising that pitbull sold that little,he had hits on his last album and that didnt do well either. He is a singles artist like Flo-rida,Jason Derulo,Jay-Sean. Theres a big difference with him having a chr hit + Beyonce having one
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Post by KingB on Jun 23, 2011 11:32:14 GMT -5
further proof that a CHR hit means nothing when it comes to selling an album. all those hits and all pitbull is going to clock is a miserable 40K What proof if that? ??? its not at all suprising that pitbull sold that little,he had hits on his last album and that didnt do well either. He is a singles artist like Flo-rida,Jason Derulo,Jay-Sean. Theres a big difference with him having a chr hit + Beyonce having one what about chris brown and his multiple CHR hits and the album still not scanning a mill?? what's going on?
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Jun 23, 2011 11:34:59 GMT -5
The point in all this is :Promotion. Obviously J didn't pump Planet Pit all the way up to its potential,but his singles smash tho.
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Post by F.A.M.O.U.S. on Jun 23, 2011 11:44:18 GMT -5
What proof if that? ??? its not at all suprising that pitbull sold that little,he had hits on his last album and that didnt do well either. He is a singles artist like Flo-rida,Jason Derulo,Jay-Sean. Theres a big difference with him having a chr hit + Beyonce having one what about chris brown and his multiple CHR hits and the album still not scanning a mill?? what's going on? You being pressed is whats going on
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Post by KingB on Jun 23, 2011 12:07:58 GMT -5
further proof that a CHR hit means nothing when it comes to selling an album. all those hits and all pitbull is going to clock is a miserable 40K This not proof of that. It is proof that a pop hit does not guarantee you, with 100% certainty, huge album sales. what it proves is what I've been saying for a while.. a great deal of the urban consumers aren't represented on the digital market. so an iTunes hit isn't an all deciding factor on whether or not an urban album release can perform well.
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Post by KingB on Jun 23, 2011 12:08:34 GMT -5
what about chris brown and his multiple CHR hits and the album still not scanning a mill?? what's going on? You being pressed is whats going on its ok boo.. I wasn't expecting you to give me a real answer anyway.
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Post by jgizzle89 on Jun 23, 2011 15:53:02 GMT -5
I think we all know why Chris hasn't sold a million. It's a combination of him beating the shit out of Rihanna and his "CHR hits" being, well, not really "hits".
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Jun 23, 2011 16:50:27 GMT -5
yeah x3 has been Chris's only CHR/POP Hit this ERA. Yes the other singles did well on other formats but i see him selling over 1mill when its all said and done.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2011 17:36:44 GMT -5
I think it's amazing how not so wide-spready genres like Urban AC can move its listeners to buy the album. It's like when Adele sold over 300k in her first week of release, I'm sure that at lot of those units sold thanks to her newly gained Triple A following.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2011 17:44:16 GMT -5
Even though much of her airplay has been at Urban AC over the years, Jill has a very large R&B following in general. She can sell well even without big Urban AC hits, let alone big Urban hits. She's been a critical darling for over a decade now, and even has a presence in film due to her work with Tyler Perry. Her debut album sold over 2 million copies, and her previous two studio albums sold around 600-700k. She's proven herself at this point.
As far as Urban AC artists aside from Jill go, you're dealing with an older audience. We've seen how adult white artists can sell without much airplay. Look at singers like Susan Boyle, Josh Groban, and Michael Buble. This is an audience that buys albums and does not download for free or even download singles on iTunes. I think that explains the respectable debuts for artists like Ledisi, who has also been around for awhile and established a fanbase. There are plenty of Urban AC artists who release their first album and do not sell well at all, even with Urban AC hits.
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Post by F.A.M.O.U.S. on Jun 23, 2011 18:07:42 GMT -5
This not proof of that. It is proof that a pop hit does not guarantee you, with 100% certainty, huge album sales. what it proves is what I've been saying for a while.. a great deal of the urban consumers aren't represented on the digital market. so an iTunes hit isn't an all deciding factor on whether or not an urban album release can perform well. No it doesnt + Pitbull selling 40k isnt proof of that. :) If you had given a real answer to my post instead off randomly talking about Chris then you would have gotten that Has nothing to do with being urban artists not doing well on the digital artists......U act like Beyonce is considered an urban artist or something.....like she has always flopped badly on itunes when its only just this year She needed hits before to sell albums + she still does
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Post by F.A.M.O.U.S. on Jun 23, 2011 18:09:34 GMT -5
I think we all know why Chris hasn't sold a million. It's a combination of him beating the s**t out of Rihanna and his "CHR hits" being, well, not really "hits". He has only had one pop smash this era...Yeah3x....Look At Me Now was his biggest single this era anyway but that wasnt POP......
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Post by Push The Button on Jun 23, 2011 18:48:07 GMT -5
Jill Scott scores her first-ever #1 record next week, while Adele and Bon Iver battle it out for the #2 slot. Here's how it looks headed into the weekend:
*Jill Scott (Blues Babe/WB) 125-135k Adele 21 (XL/Columbia) 95-105k *Bon Iver (Jagjaguar) 90-100k Jackie Evancho (Columbia) 75-80k *Justin Moore (Valory) 65-70k Bad Meets Evil (Shady/Interscope) 60-65k Lady Gaga (Interscope) 55-60k *"Weird Al" Yankovic (Volcano) 45-50k *Pitbull (J/RMG) 40-45k Jason Aldean (Broken Bow) 30-35k Now 38 (Capitol/EMI) 25-28k Mumford & Sons (Glassnote) 25-28k Adele 19 (XL/Columbia) 24-27k *August Burns Red (Tooth & Nail) 21-24k *LMFAO (Interscope) 21-24k Brad Paisley (Arista Nashville) 21-24k Ledisi (Verve Forecast) 21-24k *Matt Nathanson (Vanguard/EMI) 21-24k Now Country 4 (Universal) 21-24k
* Debuts (6/23p)
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 23, 2011 18:52:28 GMT -5
Nice if "Weird Al' lands inside the top 10.
Aside from Pitbull, LMFAO another singles act with a less-than-grand projection.
Jackie Evancho holding up better than bad Meets Evil- not that surprising, I guess.
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Post by Cerbius on Jun 23, 2011 18:57:52 GMT -5
Excellent hold for Gaga if the predictions end up accurate.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jun 23, 2011 19:03:28 GMT -5
GaGa will be in Asia until mid July so I expect her to fall a little more but it'd be great if she stayed steady for weeks to come.
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Post by Honeymoon on Jun 23, 2011 19:18:39 GMT -5
If that projection holds true only a 50% second week drop for Jackie.
Not bad for Gaga, a little better than I expected but let's see if the projection holds true.
Hoping Bon Iver reaches 100k, I bought their album on Amazon MP3 on Tuesday, I still have to give it a listen though. Their first album is lovely
Might be the first time in a few months that Adele dips under 100k but I think she'll end up at the higher end of the projection. Still absolutely phenomenal sales for a several month old album, but hopefully the label gets the hint that it might be time to announce the adds date for single #2
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Post by forg on Jun 23, 2011 20:53:47 GMT -5
Mumford & Sons (Glassnote) 25-28k Adele 19 (XL/Columbia) 24-27k
WOW!
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Post by jgizzle89 on Jun 23, 2011 22:27:47 GMT -5
WOW at Jackie Evancho only dropping 50%! BME's album looks like it's only losing about 60%. Nice drops for both.
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Post by slicknickshady on Jun 24, 2011 1:17:20 GMT -5
Not a bad drop for BME. Will be interesting to see if Lighters does anything on Radio.
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Post by d.t.m on Jun 24, 2011 1:45:27 GMT -5
Great for Jill, but Neo-soul artists typically have more loyal album-buying fanbases, especially if they made decent enough waves with their debut album.
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Post by KingB on Jun 24, 2011 1:58:25 GMT -5
what it proves is what I've been saying for a while.. a great deal of the urban consumers aren't represented on the digital market. so an iTunes hit isn't an all deciding factor on whether or not an urban album release can perform well. No it doesnt + Pitbull selling 40k isnt proof of that. :) If you had given a real answer to my post instead off randomly talking about Chris then you would have gotten that Has nothing to do with being urban artists not doing well on the digital artists......U act like Beyonce is considered an urban artist or something.....like she has always flopped badly on itunes when its only just this year She needed hits before to sell albums + she still does we'll see when the album comes out if she needs a hot 100 smash hit to sell albums. and bey has NEVER been the digital queen.. she is NOT fergie / gaga / katy / bep that have multiple songs in the 4 mill + range.. she has 1 Huge digital single SL she has other songs that sold well OVER time...with videos and promotion. beyoncé isn't only considered an urban artist ..she IS one. and as i stated her Urban fan-base is poorly represented on the digital market.. so we'll see when the cd is released for physical purchase.. how she does.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 2:29:21 GMT -5
This not proof of that. It is proof that a pop hit does not guarantee you, with 100% certainty, huge album sales. what it proves is what I've been saying for a while.. a great deal of the urban consumers aren't represented on the digital market. so an iTunes hit isn't an all deciding factor on whether or not an urban album release can perform well. but RTW wasn't even an Urban hit...
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Post by chopped89 on Jun 24, 2011 5:07:48 GMT -5
I hope BME can reach 70k...
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Post by pnobelysk on Jun 24, 2011 8:47:26 GMT -5
Adele 21 (XL/Columbia) 95-105k
really hope she can manage to stay above 100k, this could be her last week there in till the second single starts smashing.
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Post by jgizzle89 on Jun 24, 2011 9:29:00 GMT -5
Adele 21 (XL/Columbia) 95-105k really hope she can manage to stay above 100k, this could be her last week there in till the second single starts smashing. IF the single starts smashing :)
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Post by F.A.M.O.U.S. on Jun 24, 2011 11:09:50 GMT -5
No it doesnt + Pitbull selling 40k isnt proof of that. :) If you had given a real answer to my post instead off randomly talking about Chris then you would have gotten that Has nothing to do with being urban artists not doing well on the digital artists......U act like Beyonce is considered an urban artist or something.....like she has always flopped badly on itunes when its only just this year She needed hits before to sell albums + she still does we'll see when the album comes out if she needs a hot 100 smash hit to sell albums. and bey has NEVER been the digital queen.. she is NOT fergie / gaga / katy / bep that have multiple songs in the 4 mill + range.. she has 1 Huge digital single SL she has other songs that sold well OVER time...with videos and promotion. beyoncé isn't only considered an urban artist ..she IS one. and as i stated her Urban fan-base is poorly represented on the digital market.. so we'll see when the cd is released for physical purchase.. how she does. Nobody said she had to have multiple songs that sold 4 mill......her singles are still successful digitally. U dont have to always sell over 4 mill to be a good digital seller-she is no different than Rihanna who also has only 1 song that has sold over 4 million. Beyonce has a number of 2-3 million sellers so dont make it seem like she always performs as badly as she has been this era Even if we go by your belief that he is an Urban artist,her fanbase still represents her well on the digital market...just not this year. She is as much a pop artist as she is R&B,many of her singles from last era were pop not to mention Best Thing I Never Had which is more pop than anything else......+ its doing better on pop than it is on Urban anyway so theres no excuse to fall back on whatsoever
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