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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 13, 2011 21:44:39 GMT -5
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Jul 13, 2011 21:47:31 GMT -5
Moves Like Jagger (Feat. Christina Agu...
Moves Like Jagger
Maroon 5
2011 A&M/Octone Records
Universal Music
203,833
Legendtina :'( :'(
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Post by franklin on Jul 13, 2011 21:49:32 GMT -5
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Post by Rodze on Jul 14, 2011 0:44:32 GMT -5
Are they all by the same artist or is just my impression?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 5:07:17 GMT -5
^all different artists, but they are all from the same compilation or some sort of live event (Infinite Challenge West Coast Highway Festival - thanks, Chrome translator!). In fact the #6 and #7 songs are from that album too, and both those songs sold over 910,000. Now I wonder what the album sales are, if the seven songs were made available as an album...that's crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 5:10:09 GMT -5
Moves Like Jagger (Feat. Christina Agu... Moves Like Jagger Maroon 5 2011 A&M/Octone Records Universal Music 203,833 Legendtina :'( :'( 203k would easily be a top 5 song on the digital charts here. There? #32. :o I want to become a South Korean pop star! |
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Post by worldwide on Jul 14, 2011 5:16:56 GMT -5
Why aren't these songs included on mediatraffic's global chart? #1 always sells over 300k yet it's impossible to be found on mediatraffic's top 40.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 5:40:08 GMT -5
South Korea only has a population of 48 million. How is this even possible?
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Post by Oprah on Jul 14, 2011 8:02:10 GMT -5
It's very possible these are just ringtone downloads.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 8:20:14 GMT -5
Did some searching because this is intriguing to me. Infinite Challenge is a tv program, and the most watched in its Saturday time slot. It's some hybrid reality challenge/variety show. This particular season hasn't started airing yet I don't think, but it spawned a concert which aired on July 2. They've had several Korean celebrities on the show so from what I can gather the music festival was part or all of a challenge of some sort that some very popular Korean singers did to promote the upcoming season. So as far as I can tell, it's (American Idol + America's Got Talent + famous people) * Lady Gaga's hype on steroids. |
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Post by Envoirment on Jul 14, 2011 8:24:31 GMT -5
South Korea only has a population of 48 million. How is this even possible? They have a services which allows people to buy songs as low as $0.10 I believe. The revenue from selling 1mil songs in South Korea is about the same as selling around 100,000 or so in the US. Otherwise Korea's music market would be worth much more. The figures may be large, but it's the money you make from them that matters. :) |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 14, 2011 8:35:16 GMT -5
It's very possible these are just ringtone downloads. No, these are legal MP3 downloads from subscription services. They have seperate charts for mobile, BGM, and streaming tracks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 8:43:03 GMT -5
They have a services which allows people to buy songs as low as $0.10 I believe. The revenue from selling 1mil songs in South Korea is about the same as selling around 100,000 or so in the US. Otherwise Korea's music market would be worth much more. The figures may be large, but it's the money you make from them that matters. :) Thanks. That's fascinating. Are there any benefits from keeping that many more people buying music regularly? |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 14, 2011 9:41:06 GMT -5
They have a services which allows people to buy songs as low as $0.10 I believe. The revenue from selling 1mil songs in South Korea is about the same as selling around 100,000 or so in the US. Otherwise Korea's music market would be worth much more. The figures may be large, but it's the money you make from them that matters. :) Thanks. That's fascinating. Are there any benefits from keeping that many more people buying music regularly? I think I read that for signing up to subscription services at such a low price, many people can buy up to 150 songs monthly or something like that! |
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Jul 14, 2011 9:54:34 GMT -5
even at $0.10 or whatever, 200k downloads for Moves Like Jagger is still a nice number. Nice incidental revenue.
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Post by Rodze on Jul 14, 2011 10:16:39 GMT -5
Better $0.01 in your pocket than nothing.
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Post by wallace on Jul 14, 2011 10:23:58 GMT -5
The country is also very densely populated and wired like crazy.
I'd love to see regular, reliable sales (and airplay) data for US, UK etc. artists from some of these overseas markets (albums and singles) the way we have in the US market. Might really revise our thoughts on how profitable some of the big artists are.
For example, I know when Kelly Clarkson stopped in S.Korea they presented her with platinum certifications for all her albums there, but it's the kind of thing that's hard to evaluate without context of which other US artists are big there and what the actual album & single sales figures are.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 10:26:03 GMT -5
Those look like the year to date numbers
Click on the 3rd tab, you see something more realistic
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 14, 2011 10:30:40 GMT -5
For example, I know when Kelly Clarkson stopped in S.Korea they presented her with platinum certifications for all her albums there, but it's the kind of thing that's hard to evaluate without context of which other US artists are big there and what the actual album & single sales figures are. "Because Of You" sold 1,002,302 downloads in 2010 and over 100,000 downloads in 2011 as it's still a huge karaoke favorite in Korea. She's massive there. |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 14, 2011 10:31:21 GMT -5
Those look like the year to date numbers I kid ye not, these are the weekly numbers. The third tab you see is for international artists. |
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Post by Cerbius on Jul 14, 2011 10:31:36 GMT -5
Those look like the year to date numbers Click on the 3rd tab, you see something more realistic Nah, I'm pretty sure those are the weekly numbers; there's a drop-down box where you can view numbers from previous weeks and the numbers are pretty big as well. The third tab only lists songs from international artists. |
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Post by wallace on Jul 14, 2011 10:53:40 GMT -5
For example, I know when Kelly Clarkson stopped in S.Korea they presented her with platinum certifications for all her albums there, but it's the kind of thing that's hard to evaluate without context of which other US artists are big there and what the actual album & single sales figures are. "Because Of You" sold 1,002,302 downloads in 2010 and over 100,000 downloads in 2011 as it's still a huge karaoke favorite in Korea. She's massive there. Thanks. Where do those numbers come from? |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 14, 2011 11:02:46 GMT -5
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Post by worldwide on Jul 14, 2011 12:49:58 GMT -5
I know Mariah is huge there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 15:05:17 GMT -5
The country is also very densely populated and wired like crazy. I'd love to see regular, reliable sales (and airplay) data for US, UK etc. artists from some of these overseas markets (albums and singles) the way we have in the US market. Might really revise our thoughts on how profitable some of the big artists are. For example, I know when Kelly Clarkson stopped in S.Korea they presented her with platinum certifications for all her albums there, but it's the kind of thing that's hard to evaluate without context of which other US artists are big there and what the actual album & single sales figures are. According to wikipedia platinum in S.K. is only 10,000. So that doesn't really seem like much. But on the other hand, on the current chart posted here the only two US artists I saw on it were Maroon 5 and Christina at #32 and Beyonce (BTINH) at #72. If that's any indication of how few US artists manage to break through at any given time, and the term "platinum" is supposed to indicate the mark that is at least moderately hard to achieve in any country, then it may in fact be a big deal that Kelly got all of her albums certified there. I couldn't find the certification levels for singles so it may also be that S.K. is just a more extreme version of our market - extremely high single sales and very low album sales. |
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Post by wallace on Jul 14, 2011 15:25:19 GMT -5
I believe Japan is a very singles-dominated market, it would not surprise me if S. Korea is similar in that regard.
From what little I know of the region's music markets, it seems that big emotional ballads are pretty popular in Korea, the Philippines and a number of the other countries of that part of the Pacific Rim.
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Post by Envoirment on Jul 14, 2011 15:48:19 GMT -5
They have services which allows people to buy songs as low as $0.10 I believe. The revenue from selling 1mil songs in South Korea is about the same as selling around 100,000 or so in the US. Otherwise Korea's music market would be worth much more. The figures may be large, but it's the money you make from them that matters. :) Thanks. That's fascinating. Are there any benefits from keeping that many more people buying music regularly? It generally means people are more likely to look into an artist and go to see them in concerts/tours. However, album sales do take a hit. |
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Post by Lozzy on Jul 15, 2011 4:31:22 GMT -5
Wow, this is crazy. :o
Edit: that website is awesome. Wish our sales charts could have numbers for everything like that. :'(
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Jul 15, 2011 4:46:21 GMT -5
Just imagine if iTunes put all songs for 10 cents each permanently. The Hot 100 would basically look like the downloads chart  |
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Post by Rodze on Jul 15, 2011 12:43:22 GMT -5
That would be hilarious. They wouldn't even need to go that low, I think a $0.30~$0.50 would achieve that.
They should do it for the kicks. It's not like Apple is gonna go bankrupt or anything.
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