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Post by leoapp on Sept 20, 2011 18:46:24 GMT -5
So at this point, what song will replace MLJ from #1 Hot 100, beside SLY?
Rihanna's new song maybe. If her label is smart, she can have her first #1 debut on Hot 100
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 20, 2011 20:44:02 GMT -5
So at this point, what song will replace MLJ from #1 Hot 100, beside SLY? Rihanna's new song maybe. If her label is smart, she can have her first #1 debut on Hot 100 If her label was smart, they'd push "Cheers" more before moving on. Seriously, they waited like 2 months before releasing a new lead single. ??? WTF is that? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 23:10:29 GMT -5
Rihanna and her label never wanted Cheers. They've been trying to kill it for a while now. And now they're just pretending it doesn't exist.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 20, 2011 23:59:23 GMT -5
^How so? The track did go for official radio play, did it not? And it does have a video, does it not? :)
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Post by Mahatma Coat on Sept 21, 2011 1:51:59 GMT -5
I like MLJ but it can get pretty annoying if you listen to it more than twice a day. I'm hoping it burns out at radio sooner than expected. Seems unlikely, but I can dream. Adele looks better at #1. No immediate threats to those 2 tracks for Top 2.
LMFAO might actually have another hit on their hands with Sexy & I Know It.
I wish Papi would smash. I love that song *&* video!
Lady Gaga's last shot at a Top 10 hit is Marry The Night and then this era is over. Nothing else on that album will be a Top 10 hit or possibly even Top 20. But things could be worse: she could be having Beyonce's era.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 21, 2011 2:06:58 GMT -5
i find it absolutely ridiculous and, at the same time, exciting that Rihanna is releasing new music. It could totally backfire, or it could be a breath of fresh air. I don't remember in my personal life an artist releasing music so fast WHILE I WAS WATCHING. I'm sure it happened in my life, but i wasn't watching so closely. This is a record for me for sure. 2nd place would be Gwen 2nd solo album, but i don't think it was as close as this is.
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Post by Push The Button on Sept 21, 2011 2:15:47 GMT -5
Gwen released her second album two years after LAMB.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 21, 2011 2:26:09 GMT -5
Gwen released her second album two years after LAMB. lol, well at that time in my life, it seemed really quick. how much time between the last single and the first single? |
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Post by slicknickshady on Sept 21, 2011 2:27:31 GMT -5
EVANESCENCE - What You Want: 4.492 (+ 0.073)
This isnt doing much at all. damn.
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 21, 2011 2:52:27 GMT -5
Gwen released her second album two years after LAMB. lol, well at that time in my life, it seemed really quick. how much time between the last single and the first single? Crash was released in January 2006 Wind It Up hit the airwaves in September-October that year so she was absent basically 6 months. |
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Post by Lozzy on Sept 21, 2011 6:10:13 GMT -5
9/21 airplay updates:[/u] 1. MAROON 5 F/CHRISTINA AGUILERA - Moves Like Jagger: 122.479 (+ 2.331) 2. BAD MEETS EVIL - Lighters f/Bruno Mars: 117.991 (- 0.602) 3. NICKI MINAJ - Super Bass: 102.449 (- 0.940) ▲ 4. KATY PERRY - Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.): 102.431 (- 2.161) ▼ 5. LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem: 102.205 (- 1.020) 6. PITBULL - Give Me Everything f/Ne-Yo: 96.821 (- 1.011) 7. LIL WAYNE - How To Love: 95.492 (- 0.800) 8. FOSTER THE PEOPLE - Pumped Up Kicks: 91.523 (+ 1.164)
9. ADELE - Someone Like You: 84.960 (+ 2.845) ▲[/color] 10. BRITNEY SPEARS - I Wanna Go: 84.495 (- 1.712) ▼ 11. ONEREPUBLIC - Good Life: 82.790 (- 0.192) ▼ 12. ADELE - Rolling In The Deep: 72.527 (- 0.388) 13. DJ KHALED - I'm On One f/Drake, Rick Ross: 67.969 (- 0.033) 14. RIHANNA - Cheers (Drink To That): 65.952 (+ 0.243) 15. GYM CLASS HEROES - Stereo Hearts f/Adam Levine: 64.199 (+ 1.410)16. COBRA STARSHIP - You Make Me Feel... f/Sabi: 61.727 (+ 0.822) 17. HOT CHELLE RAE - Tonight Tonight: 59.046 (- 1.079) 18. DEV - In The Dark: 58.650 (+ 0.517) ▲ 19. KELLY ROWLAND - Motivation f/Lil Wayne: 56.884 (- 0.309) ▲ 20. THE BAND PERRY - If I Die Young: 56.871 (- 1.432) ▼ LADY GAGA - You And I: 53.650 (+ 0.778) RODNEY ATKINS - Take A Back Road: 52.932 (+ 0.279) TOBY KEITH - Made In America: 50.234 (+ 0.453) LADY GAGA - The Edge Of Glory: 49.598 (- 0.415) KEITH URBAN - Long Hot Summer: 47.378 (- 0.064) DRAKE - Headlines: 46.193 (+ 1.043)BIG SEAN - Marvin & Chardonnay: 40.747 (- 0.029) DAVID GUETTA - Without You f/Usher: 37.770 (+ 1.365)ALEXANDRA STAN - Mr. Saxobeat: 33.400 (+ 0.277) MIRANDA LAMBERT - Baggage Claim: 31.954 (+ 0.141) KELLY CLARKSON - Mr. Know It All: 31.274 (+ 1.262)THE SCRIPT - Nothing: 30.511 (+ 0.291) TAYLOR SWIFT - Sparks Fly: 29.134 (+ 0.258) JAY Z & KANYE WEST - N***** In Paris: 25.583 (+ 0.809) RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS - Adventures Of Rain Dance...: 22.968 (+ 0.184) LMFAO - Sexy And I Know It: 17.131 (+ 1.364)BLINK 182 - Up All Night: 7.712 (- 0.093) SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE - Love You Like A Love Song: 6.120 (+ 0.324) EVANESCENCE - What You Want: 4.599 (+ 0.107) COLDPLAY - Paradise: 4.157 (+ 0.362) BRITNEY SPEARS - Criminal: 2.853 (+ 0.318) [Source]
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Post by Arabella21 on Sept 21, 2011 6:32:17 GMT -5
9. ADELE - Someone Like You: 84.960 (+ 2.845) ▲ Slacker.  But seriously good job blasting into the Top 10. LADY GAGA - You And I: 53.650 (+ 0.778) Not bad for a flop being utterly rejected by radio.  |
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Post by jebsib on Sept 21, 2011 7:36:51 GMT -5
Releases between albums are definitely speeding up. A lot has to do with our shorter attention spans now (MJ went almost 5 years between "Thriller" & "Bad"; Usher went 4 between "Confessions" and "Here I Stand") I think the precedent started on the R&B charts with the avalanche of rappers being featured on other hits (see Ja Rule, Akon, T-Pain, Chris Brown). This gives the appearance of being fairly ubiquitous even when you are between projects, and over time may have changed our sensibilities a little. The only problem I see in the CHR world is burnout.
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Post by newhaven on Sept 21, 2011 7:48:41 GMT -5
The speed of Rihanna's releases makes me think of the sixties (not that was I alive then, but you know...)
Aretha Franklin released 12 albums between 1964 and 1972.. The Beatles released over a dozen albums from 1963-1970, and The Supremes released 13 between 1964-1968.
You could almost say that Rihanna's release speed makes her a a super throwback artist.
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Post by Rodze on Sept 21, 2011 7:56:25 GMT -5
I don't think it is related to however people are today. Many people have released albums in fast schedule across history.
Unless there's some scientific study making comparisons that reaches some conclusion, I think it is simply a case by case scenario based on two factors: the commercial reception and the creative process.
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Post by wolfmother on Sept 21, 2011 8:25:40 GMT -5
The speed of Rihanna's releases makes me think of the sixties (not that was I alive then, but you know...) Aretha Franklin released 12 albums between 1964 and 1972.. The Beatles released over a dozen albums from 1963-1970, and The Supremes released 13 between 1964-1968. You could almost say that Rihanna's release speed makes her a a super throwback artist. Well Mariah Carey in the 90's was releasing albums after albums. 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997, 1998, 1999. So was Garth Brooks. |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Sept 21, 2011 8:32:32 GMT -5
It's interesting that Rihanna will have as many studio releases (six) in six years as Whitney Houston in 26 (!) years. Whitney, of course, had a couple of ST between releases, but RiRi has almost as many off-release collaborations. I'm glad RiRi (and others) are taking the MC path rather than the WH route.
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Post by leoapp on Sept 21, 2011 8:34:49 GMT -5
It's just because Rihanna had tons of collaborations during one of her eras or between the gap of her 2 eras, that makes her look "too often" releasing new music. Unlike Mariah who had limited collaborations in 90s during her peaks.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 21, 2011 9:00:23 GMT -5
9. ADELE - Someone Like You: 84.960 (+ 2.845) ▲ Slacker. But seriously good job blasting into the Top 10. LADY GAGA - You And I: 53.650 (+ 0.778) Not bad for a flop being utterly rejected by radio. "utterly rejected"?? It's #21 out of 200+ songs. Dramatic much? |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 21, 2011 9:10:44 GMT -5
I think perhaps Arabella was being sarcastic? How I read it, with the rolling eyes and all.
"Someone Like You" looks like it easily will be the biggest airplay gainer for this Hot 100 chart.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 21, 2011 9:20:01 GMT -5
^Oh. Never mind. I always ignore emoticons.
Sorry, Arabella. Forgive me, my darling.
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Post by felipe on Sept 21, 2011 9:22:12 GMT -5
The speed of Rihanna's releases makes me think of the sixties (not that was I alive then, but you know...) Aretha Franklin released 12 albums between 1964 and 1972.. The Beatles released over a dozen albums from 1963-1970, and The Supremes released 13 between 1964-1968. You could almost say that Rihanna's release speed makes her a a super throwback artist. I noticed how artists released more albums in the 50s and 60s too. You can see how Sinatra or Streisand released 3 albums each year. I still don't know what changed it though. |
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Post by Lozzy on Sept 21, 2011 9:33:32 GMT -5
The speed of Rihanna's releases makes me think of the sixties (not that was I alive then, but you know...) Aretha Franklin released 12 albums between 1964 and 1972.. The Beatles released over a dozen albums from 1963-1970, and The Supremes released 13 between 1964-1968. You could almost say that Rihanna's release speed makes her a a super throwback artist. The '60s would have been a great time to be a fan of one of those artists, it seems. Though, what was the average album length back then? 8-10 songs? |
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Post by jebsib on Sept 21, 2011 9:45:09 GMT -5
Prince also used to release an album every year. There's never been a hard and fast rule, but the common conception seems to be that the longer you go, the less relevant you become (unless you're a legend of course)
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Post by Arabella21 on Sept 21, 2011 9:56:12 GMT -5
^Oh. Never mind. I always ignore emoticons. Sorry, Arabella. Forgive me, my darling. No problem, baby. *blows kiss* IDK, but it will probably involve an X Factor performance. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 21, 2011 10:12:04 GMT -5
Billboard.com:
Moving over to the Digital Songs chart, the top three titles are stationary this week, led by "Moves Like Jagger" by Maroon 5 featuring Christina Aguilera (221,000; up 1%). Adele's "Someone Like You" (199,000; down 7%) and Foster the People's "Pumped Up Kicks" (186,000; down 4%) stand still at Nos. 2 and 3, respectively.
Coldplay's new "Paradise" debuts at No. 6 with 139,000, while Gym Class Heroes' "Stereo Hearts," featuring Adam Levine, rises 5-4 (144,000; down 1%). LMFAO's "Party Rock Anthem," featuring Lauren Bennett and GoonRock, falls 4-5 with 143,000 (down 8%) and Cobra Starship's "You Make Me Feel," featuring Sabi, holds at No. 7 with 130,000 (up 2%).
Closing out the top 10 is Lady Gaga's "You and I" (6-8 with 121,000; down 14%), Rihanna's "Cheers (Drink to That)" (8-9 with 120,000; down 5%) and David Guetta's "Without You" (featuring Usher), zooming 18-10 (104,000; up 71%).
Digital track sales this past week totaled 21.01 million downloads, down 1% compared to last week (21.26 million) and up 6% stacked next to the comparable week of 2010 (19.90 million). Year to date track sales are at 910.60 million, up 11% compared to the same total at this point last year (821.73 million).
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Post by lawmak on Sept 21, 2011 10:23:03 GMT -5
It's interesting that Rihanna will have as many studio releases (six) in six years as Whitney Houston in 26 (!) years. Whitney, of course, had a couple of ST between releases, but RiRi has almost as many off-release collaborations. I'm glad RiRi (and others) are taking the MC path rather than the WH route. That is beacuse Whitney was a legend already with her first two albums..as Michael Jackson was with his first two "Epic"(recording label) albums...Rihanna first two albums were...well, you know..so it's a..very different situation.. |
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Post by newpower99 on Sept 21, 2011 10:27:14 GMT -5
Prince also used to release an album every year. There's never been a hard and fast rule, but the common conception seems to be that the longer you go, the less relevant you become (unless you're a legend of course) yeah , Prince had a tremendous run releasing 18 albums over 19 years . From 1978-1996 .only in 1983 he didn't release an album when 1999 was charting for 2 years before Purple Rain was released. You go Rihanna |
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Sept 21, 2011 10:30:14 GMT -5
MORE MEDIABASE
9/21/2011
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 21, 2011 10:34:14 GMT -5
Unsurprisingly, "Papi" not getting much play in advance of its official radio date next week. It's at No. 102 on iTunes, spurred by the video premiere. It doesn't have much to do, though, to top its initial peak when it charted as an album preview single (No. 99).
Is there a radio date for Nicole Scherzinger's latest single? Am sure she'll perform on X-Factor at some point- though I don't think she's the kind of act who would be a contender for No. 1 following an X-Factor performance, especially if airplay isn't too high.
It's starting for Ms. Perry's sixth single. :)
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