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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 11, 2018 2:50:57 GMT -5
IKR, this dogpile in the top 20 excruciating. So many songs gunning for a top 10 spot, with no way to actually advance when all of the spots in the top 10 taken up by songs that have peaked are still several thousand spins away from vacating, and falling at a glacial speed (if even that, wtf with the gains 'Love Lies'?!)
It would ease the pressure a little bit if Bebe and Imagine Dragons would just rupture already; Bebe's lucky to have made the top 10 but she's just not getting back in there. ID is also never going to get there so they can both gtfo. But all of these really old songs in the top 5/6 needed to be pulling consecutive -300/400's like... weeks ago. This top 10 needs a badly-needed enema.
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Post by mkarns on Nov 11, 2018 3:09:46 GMT -5
IKR, this dogpile in the top 20 excruciating. So many songs gunning for a top 10 spot, with no way to actually advance when all of the spots in the top 10 taken up by songs that have peaked are still several thousand spins away from vacating, and falling at a glacial speed (if even that, wtf with the gains 'Love Lies'?!) It would ease the pressure a little bit if Bebe and Imagine Dragons would just rupture already; Bebe's lucky to have made the top 10 but she's just not getting back in there. ID is also never going to get there so they can both gtfo. But all of these really old songs in the top 5/6 needed to be pulling consecutive -300/400's like... weeks ago. This top 10 needs a badly-needed enema. Regardless of my opinion of the songs, I think it's at least time for "Love Lies", "Girls Like You", and "Better Now" to make some space already. Two or three months in the top 5, and at least a couple of weeks at #1, isn't enough? Still, some others have managed to break through impressively. "Breathin" is in the top 10 while "God Is a Woman" is still at #1. And go High Hopes!!!
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 11, 2018 3:15:05 GMT -5
At least in the case of 'God Is A Woman' it's less to do with the age of the song, and more to do with the fact that Ariana now has two other singles gaining airplay. GIAW isn't going to do much better on the Hot 100 than it already has, and now that it's secured the pop radio #1 it's time to shift focus to getting 'Breathin' to the top spot and pushing that song as far up the Hot 100 as possible. Then once that's done give full attention to 'Thank U, Next' at radio (since we've all but assumed a #1 debut for that on the Hot 100, there's nothing that needs to be done for a higher chart peak there since it's already impacting as high as it can).
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 11, 2018 7:33:44 GMT -5
SUNDAY MORNING UPDATE:
1 1 ARIANA GRANDE God Is A Woman 15755 16511 -756 80.125 4 2 MARSHMELLO Happier f/Bastille 15629 14394 1235 73.927 2 3 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER Youngblood 15441 16158 -717 81.392 3 4 KHALID X NORMANI Love Lies 14650 14675 -25 85.645 5 5 MAROON 5 Girls Like You f/Cardi B 13330 13992 -662 76.759 6 6 POST MALONE Better Now 13248 13801 -553 74.297 7 7 JUICE WRLD Lucid Dreams 12208 12021 187 51.487 9 8 ARIANA GRANDE Breathin 11641 10379 1262 63.739 8 9 NF Lie 11302 10651 651 48.087 13 10 PANIC! AT THE DISCO High Hopes 10898 8714 2184 59.585
10 11 BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID Eastside 10757 10114 643 50.499 11 12 BEBE REXHA I'm A Mess 9710 9687 23 37.583 12 13 IMAGINE DRAGONS Natural 9075 9303 -228 34.135 16 14 HALSEY Without Me 8563 7197 1366 42.277 14 15 BAZZI Beautiful f/Camila Cabello 7775 7489 286 34.187 15 16 LOVELYTHEBAND Broken 7576 7393 183 30.490 17 17 SHAWN MENDES & ZEDD Lost In Japan (Remix) 7304 7085 219 32.086 22 18 POST MALONE & SWAE LEE Sunflower 5053 3848 1205 21.944 18 19 BRYCE VINE Drew Barrymore 4992 6612 -1620 16.481 20 20 SILK CITY F/DIPLO/MARK RONSON Electricity f/Dua Lipa 4790 4251 539 19.916
21 21 CALVIN HARRIS & SAM SMITH Promises 4254 4236 18 19.302 23 22 CAMILA CABELLO Consequences 4051 3507 544 15.858 25 23 LSD (LABRINTH/SIA/DIPLO) Thunderclouds 3321 3155 166 11.324 26 24 TRAVIS SCOTT Sicko Mode 3216 2775 441 10.536 19 25 TIESTO & DZEKO Jackie Chan f/Preme/PostMalone 2892 5142 -2250 15.740 29 26 LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER Shallow 2569 2077 492 9.138 28 27 DRAKE Don't Matter To Me f/M Jackson 2487 2217 270 6.306 24 28 DJ KHALED/BIEBER/CHANCE/QUAVO No Brainer 2441 3222 -781 12.913 30 29 THE CHAINSMOKERS F/K BALLERINI This Feeling 2232 1857 375 8.504 33 30 KHALID Better 2165 1764 401 7.556
34 31 ALESSIA CARA Trust My Lonely 2004 1752 252 5.690 32 32 DEAN LEWIS Be Alright 1983 1812 171 7.876 35 33 LOUD LUXURY Body f/Brando 1804 1637 167 6.166 38 34 DJ SNAKE/SELENA/OZUNA/CARDI B Taki Taki 1770 1325 445 7.535 27 35 TYGA Taste f/Offset 1722 2672 -950 7.062 31 36 DRAKE In My Feelings 1708 1823 -115 7.569 36 37 DAN + SHAY Tequila 1653 1437 216 6.713 39 38 WHY DON'T WE 8 Letters 1557 1228 329 6.225 37 39 TWENTY ONE PILOTS My Blood 1465 1358 107 3.318 91 40 ARIANA GRANDE thank u, next 1400 54 1346 12.074
47 41 ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO Close To Me f/Swae Lee 1174 552 622 4.823 45 42 STEVE AOKI Waste It On Me f/BTS 979 603 376 2.044 42 43 AJ MITCHELL Girls 951 901 50 1.477 51 44 ZARA LARSSON Ruin My Life 935 459 476 2.133 46 45 LAUV There's No Way f/JuliaMichaels 696 555 141 0.988 43 46 GRYFFIN Tie Me Down f/Elley Duhe 684 754 -70 1.039 44 47 YG F/2 CHAINZ, BIG SEAN, NICKI Big Bank 662 658 4 1.679 53 48 LUKAS GRAHAM Love Someone 649 398 251 1.635 48 49 DILLON FRANCIS White Boi f/Lao Ra 617 545 72 1.320 41 50 KIM PETRAS Heart To Break 613 980 -367 1.531
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Post by Leo ✔ on Nov 11, 2018 8:46:37 GMT -5
"Drew Barrymore" goes recurrent and they might purge "Heart to Break" "Close to Me" will land at #40
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 13:07:35 GMT -5
IKR, this dogpile in the top 20 excruciating. So many songs gunning for a top 10 spot, with no way to actually advance when all of the spots in the top 10 taken up by songs that have peaked are still several thousand spins away from vacating, and falling at a glacial speed (if even that, wtf with the gains 'Love Lies'?!) It would ease the pressure a little bit if Bebe and Imagine Dragons would just rupture already; Bebe's lucky to have made the top 10 but she's just not getting back in there. ID is also never going to get there so they can both gtfo. But all of these really old songs in the top 5/6 needed to be pulling consecutive -300/400's like... weeks ago. This top 10 needs a badly-needed enema. Bebe will be going recurrent after this week so at least we don't really need her to implode to get out of the way. ID is over a month from that though so they need to let go of that sooner than later. LL was a slow burner and its continued high positive callout exhibits that; however, its dogged persistence only makes sense if RCA is lowkey trying to guarantee a certain placement on the year-end lists and/or push for some longevity record (which at the rate it is going, may very well happen b/c it won't be out of the top 10 before said year-end countdowns come in and boost it back up!)...but it still being top 5 just looks crazy at this point. And Girls Like You and Better Now should have left even before Love Lies IMO - both those songs peaked extremely fast, so they feel even older since pretty much all their time was spent at the top. And don't think we forgot about you too Youngblood! You also need to gtfo. And you know what, I know he just got there, but NF could drop out of the top 10 and into recurrent status tomorrow and I'd be totally okay with it b/c I doubt he's going to peak any higher. 70% of this top 10 needs to disappear. This isn't the first time this year that pop has done this; the format has a bad habit now of holding on to certain songs for dear life for fear that nothing else will grab and keep listeners' attention as much. I think it just looks worse now b/c it's literally over 2/3 of the top 10 now instead of just one or two songs at a time, and all it is doing is setting the format up for another logjam two or three months from now, when all the songs waiting their turn are finally in the top 10 and don't want to leave. That's one thing I will appreciate about the urban chart if nothing else. They move songs in and out like it's a drive-thru.
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Post by nick64 on Nov 11, 2018 14:40:35 GMT -5
^Won’t Bebe need two negative weeks first?
But yeah, it’s one thing to hold on to older hits when there’s nothing coming up, but that’s not the case. We have nearly 12 songs over 10,000 spins and 17 over 7000, which is just ridiculous (Kygo was #11 with less than that about a month ago). “Happier”, “Breathin”, “High Hopes”, and “Without Me” are all doing excellent. Not to mention very respectable runs for “Eastside”, “Beautiful”, and “Broken”, with “Sunflower” on the rise. Even “Natural” was doing so much better in other metrics than radio. “Lie” has execllent callouts, but it’s not moving the needle, and there’s enough alternative options to let it go. “Lucid Dreams” had a great run, but it’s not getting farther, and it’s treaded water for over a month now.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Nov 11, 2018 14:46:16 GMT -5
I need "Better Now" to get -300 or so. If "God is a woman" is getting that bcs "breathin" is top 10 and "thank you, next" is getting nice updates, why radio won't let go "Better Now" when is old as hell and "Sunflower" is climbing. "Love Lies" should give spins to "Better" (but I can get why is not dropping faster since its burn rate is decent, also may be the lack of Normani's song getting pushed on radio), but Khalid has 3 songs on pop radio, just kill the oldest. "Girls Like You" also can drop but since there's not follow up announced is holding really well, also being the #1 song on Hot 100 could help.
I swear if "God is a woman" let top 10 before some of the affored mentioned songs I'll riot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 17:44:08 GMT -5
^Won’t Bebe need two negative weeks first? But yeah, it’s one thing to hold on to older hits when there’s nothing coming up, but that’s not the case. We have nearly 12 songs over 10,000 spins and 17 over 7000, which is just ridiculous (Kygo was #11 with less than that about a month ago). “Happier”, “Breathin”, “High Hopes”, and “Without Me” are all doing excellent. Not to mention very respectable runs for “Eastside”, “Beautiful”, and “Broken”, with “Sunflower” on the rise. Even “Natural” was doing so much better in other metrics than radio. “Lie” has execllent callouts, but it’s not moving the needle, and there’s enough alternative options to let it go. “Lucid Dreams” had a great run, but it’s not getting farther, and it’s treaded water for over a month now. Bebe managed to eke out a top 10 peak, so I don't think radio has to give her two full weeks of negative updates if it's obvious she won't be gaining enough to get back into the top 10 again, but I'm not 100% certain of this. If we do have to wait on that, then Bryce Vine won't be going recurrent until next week either, b/c he's only been falling for one week now.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Nov 11, 2018 17:56:53 GMT -5
^Won’t Bebe need two negative weeks first? But yeah, it’s one thing to hold on to older hits when there’s nothing coming up, but that’s not the case. We have nearly 12 songs over 10,000 spins and 17 over 7000, which is just ridiculous (Kygo was #11 with less than that about a month ago). “Happier”, “Breathin”, “High Hopes”, and “Without Me” are all doing excellent. Not to mention very respectable runs for “Eastside”, “Beautiful”, and “Broken”, with “Sunflower” on the rise. Even “Natural” was doing so much better in other metrics than radio. “Lie” has execllent callouts, but it’s not moving the needle, and there’s enough alternative options to let it go. “Lucid Dreams” had a great run, but it’s not getting farther, and it’s treaded water for over a month now. Bebe managed to eke out a top 10 peak, so I don't think radio has to give her two full weeks of negative updates if it's obvious she won't be gaining enough to get back into the top 10 again, but I'm not 100% certain of this. If we do have to wait on that, then Bryce Vine won't be going recurrent until next week either, b/c he's only been falling for one week now. "Drew Barrymore" didn't have a bullet last week while Bebe had and still having bullet this week
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 11, 2018 19:44:52 GMT -5
Re: Bebe I don't think it matters if she's recurrent or not. Her spin count would still be ridiculously high and would need to be cut down to size regardless.
And my problem with these logjams that Pop keeps getting itself into is that all these songs that should be making top 10, have to wait so long for a spot to open up that they run out of juice and die before they can actually get there. I'm reminded of 'Never Be Like You' by Flume, which was doing quite well, but just couldn't get a look in to the top 10. It finally managed to sneak in there the week it peaked, and then because it was 20+ weeks by that point it was gone the following week. Or even 'One Kiss' earlier this year. Made top 10 with a decent spin count for that region, only to get pushed out before spending weeks trying to get back in. We all know it wound up spending a long time in the top 10 once it got back there, but who knows how differently it might have performed if it didn't get stuck in the middle of a huge mess.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Nov 11, 2018 21:09:25 GMT -5
SUNDAY PUBLISHED UPDATE:
1 1 ARIANA GRANDE God Is A Woman 15757 16511 -754 80.129 4 2 MARSHMELLO Happier f/Bastille 15631 14394 1237 73.930 2 3 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER Youngblood 15445 16158 -713 81.403 3 4 KHALID X NORMANI Love Lies 14651 14675 -24 85.646 5 5 MAROON 5 Girls Like You f/Cardi B 13333 13992 -659 76.765 6 6 POST MALONE Better Now 13249 13801 -552 74.298 7 7 JUICE WRLD Lucid Dreams 12210 12021 189 51.490 9 8 ARIANA GRANDE Breathin 11642 10379 1263 63.740 8 9 NF Lie 11305 10651 654 48.094 13 10 PANIC! AT THE DISCO High Hopes 10898 8714 2184 59.585
10 11 BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID Eastside 10759 10114 645 50.503 11 12 BEBE REXHA I'm A Mess 9711 9687 24 37.584 12 13 IMAGINE DRAGONS Natural 9078 9303 -225 34.141 16 14 HALSEY Without Me 8566 7197 1369 42.283 14 15 BAZZI Beautiful f/Camila Cabello 7777 7489 288 34.192 15 16 LOVELYTHEBAND Broken 7577 7393 184 30.493 17 17 SHAWN MENDES & ZEDD Lost In Japan (Remix) 7305 7085 220 32.087 22 18 POST MALONE & SWAE LEE Sunflower 5055 3848 1207 21.948 20 19 SILK CITY F/DIPLO/MARK RONSON Electricity f/Dua Lipa 4791 4251 540 19.917 21 20 CALVIN HARRIS & SAM SMITH Promises 4257 4236 21 19.307
23 21 CAMILA CABELLO Consequences 4051 3507 544 15.858 25 22 LSD (LABRINTH/SIA/DIPLO) Thunderclouds 3321 3155 166 11.324 26 23 TRAVIS SCOTT Sicko Mode 3217 2775 442 10.537 19 24 TIESTO & DZEKO Jackie Chan f/Preme/PostMalone 2893 5142 -2249 15.743 29 25 LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER Shallow 2569 2077 492 9.138 28 26 DRAKE Don't Matter To Me f/M Jackson 2487 2217 270 6.306 24 27 DJ KHALED/BIEBER/CHANCE/QUAVO No Brainer 2441 3222 -781 12.913 30 28 THE CHAINSMOKERS F/K BALLERINI This Feeling 2232 1857 375 8.504 33 29 KHALID Better 2165 1764 401 7.556 34 30 ALESSIA CARA Trust My Lonely 2004 1752 252 5.690
32 31 DEAN LEWIS Be Alright 1984 1812 172 7.879 35 32 LOUD LUXURY Body f/Brando 1805 1637 168 6.169 38 33 DJ SNAKE/SELENA/OZUNA/CARDI B Taki Taki 1772 1325 447 7.540 27 34 TYGA Taste f/Offset 1722 2672 -950 7.062 31 35 DRAKE In My Feelings 1708 1823 -115 7.569 36 36 DAN + SHAY Tequila 1653 1437 216 6.713 39 37 WHY DON'T WE 8 Letters 1557 1228 329 6.225 37 38 TWENTY ONE PILOTS My Blood 1465 1358 107 3.318 91 39 ARIANA GRANDE thank u, next 1400 54 1346 12.074 47 40 ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO Close To Me f/Swae Lee 1174 552 622 4.823
45 41 STEVE AOKI Waste It On Me f/BTS 980 603 377 2.047 42 42 AJ MITCHELL Girls 951 901 50 1.477 51 43 ZARA LARSSON Ruin My Life 936 459 477 2.136 46 44 LAUV There's No Way f/JuliaMichaels 696 555 141 0.988 43 45 GRYFFIN Tie Me Down f/Elley Duhe 684 754 -70 1.039 44 46 YG F/2 CHAINZ, BIG SEAN, NICKI Big Bank 662 658 4 1.679 53 47 LUKAS GRAHAM Love Someone 649 398 251 1.635 48 48 DILLON FRANCIS White Boi f/Lao Ra 620 545 75 1.326 40 49 KANYE WEST & LIL PUMP I Love It 609 1004 -395 1.369 49 50 ELIJAH WOODS X JAMIE FINE Ain't Easy 606 508 98 0.895
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 11, 2018 21:25:37 GMT -5
Rita's not back in? I'm disgusted. :sip2:
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Post by Leo ✔ on Nov 11, 2018 21:26:46 GMT -5
Rita's not back in? I'm disgusted. :sip2: I hope she re-enters tomorrow with "I Love It" disappearing (as how it should be)
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 11, 2018 21:27:43 GMT -5
Also, more disgusting is the fact that half of the unbulleted songs in the top 40 are all in the top 6.
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Post by cassiuscasanova on Nov 11, 2018 22:50:21 GMT -5
Ariana get those three number ones
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 12, 2018 7:14:17 GMT -5
MONDAY UPDATE:
4 1 MARSHMELLO Happier f/Bastille 15641 14675 966 74.298 1 2 ARIANA GRANDE God Is A Woman 15341 16608 -1267 78.358 2 3 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER Youngblood 15183 16233 -1050 80.220 3 4 KHALID X NORMANI Love Lies 14461 14700 -239 84.934 5 5 MAROON 5 Girls Like You f/Cardi B 13168 13893 -725 75.945 6 6 POST MALONE Better Now 13103 13705 -602 73.323 7 7 JUICE WRLD Lucid Dreams 12172 12036 136 51.952 9 8 ARIANA GRANDE Breathin 11801 10529 1272 65.351 8 9 NF Lie 11296 10798 498 48.018 13 10 PANIC! AT THE DISCO High Hopes 11163 9024 2139 60.521
10 11 BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID Eastside 10740 10244 496 50.392 11 12 BEBE REXHA I'm A Mess 9644 9735 -91 37.463 12 13 IMAGINE DRAGONS Natural 8901 9342 -441 33.395 16 14 HALSEY Without Me 8658 7347 1311 43.305 14 15 BAZZI Beautiful f/Camila Cabello 7821 7517 304 34.579 15 16 LOVELYTHEBAND Broken 7562 7444 118 30.352 17 17 SHAWN MENDES & ZEDD Lost In Japan (Remix) 7305 7160 145 32.230 22 18 POST MALONE & SWAE LEE Sunflower 5184 4219 965 22.598 20 19 SILK CITY F/DIPLO/MARK RONSON Electricity f/Dua Lipa 4796 4419 377 19.837 23 20 CAMILA CABELLO Consequences 4178 3614 564 16.645
21 21 CALVIN HARRIS & SAM SMITH Promises 4147 4283 -136 18.683 24 22 LSD (LABRINTH/SIA/DIPLO) Thunderclouds 3304 3208 96 11.278 26 23 TRAVIS SCOTT Sicko Mode 3230 2846 384 10.860 29 24 LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER Shallow 2740 2177 563 10.130 19 25 TIESTO & DZEKO Jackie Chan f/Preme/PostMalone 2593 4843 -2250 14.672 28 26 DRAKE Don't Matter To Me f/M Jackson 2449 2367 82 6.082 25 27 DJ KHALED/BIEBER/CHANCE/QUAVO No Brainer 2323 3049 -726 12.368 30 28 THE CHAINSMOKERS F/K BALLERINI This Feeling 2301 1966 335 9.190 33 29 KHALID Better 2191 1828 363 7.639 32 30 DEAN LEWIS Be Alright 2075 1857 218 8.359
34 31 ALESSIA CARA Trust My Lonely 2060 1796 264 6.445 38 32 DJ SNAKE/SELENA/OZUNA/CARDI B Taki Taki 1888 1340 548 8.055 35 33 LOUD LUXURY Body f/Brando 1839 1689 150 6.659 73 34 ARIANA GRANDE thank u, next 1693 122 1571 13.739 36 35 DAN + SHAY Tequila 1667 1483 184 6.751 31 36 DRAKE In My Feelings 1603 1875 -272 6.837 39 37 WHY DON'T WE 8 Letters 1578 1324 254 6.479 27 38 TYGA Taste f/Offset 1568 2542 -974 6.388 37 39 TWENTY ONE PILOTS My Blood 1455 1400 55 3.330 46 40 ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO Close To Me f/Swae Lee 1276 631 645 5.312
44 41 STEVE AOKI Waste It On Me f/BTS 999 679 320 2.061 48 42 ZARA LARSSON Ruin My Life 974 557 417 2.171 42 43 AJ MITCHELL Girls 966 919 47 1.477 47 44 LAUV There's No Way f/JuliaMichaels 720 580 140 1.038 52 45 LUKAS GRAHAM Love Someone 666 454 212 1.709 45 46 YG F/2 CHAINZ, BIG SEAN, NICKI Big Bank 662 669 -7 1.579 43 47 GRYFFIN Tie Me Down f/Elley Duhe 650 758 -108 1.026 49 48 DILLON FRANCIS White Boi f/Lao Ra 618 555 63 1.307 50 49 ELIJAH WOODS X JAMIE FINE Ain't Easy 607 538 69 0.902 51 50 RITA ORA Let You Love Me 586 492 94 1.097
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Post by Leo ✔ on Nov 12, 2018 9:19:22 GMT -5
Half of top 10 is falling and seems like they won't move this week.
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Post by dlhealy2007 on Nov 12, 2018 9:24:42 GMT -5
Half of top 10 is falling and seems like they won't move this week. It's extremely annoying. Especially "Love Lies." I can't think of the last time I've been so burnt out on a song.
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Post by rekz on Nov 13, 2018 1:01:47 GMT -5
Half of top 10 is falling and seems like they won't move this week. It's extremely annoying. Especially "Love Lies." I can't think of the last time I've been so burnt out on a song. New Rules?
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 13, 2018 7:20:45 GMT -5
TUESDAY UPDATE:
3 1 MARSHMELLO Happier f/Bastille 15800 14800 1000 75.398 2 2 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER Youngblood 15067 16110 -1043 79.582 1 3 ARIANA GRANDE God Is A Woman 15051 16671 -1620 76.809 4 4 KHALID X NORMANI Love Lies 14442 14580 -138 84.504 5 5 MAROON 5 Girls Like You f/Cardi B 13129 13733 -604 75.123 6 6 POST MALONE Better Now 12915 13643 -728 72.109 7 7 JUICE WRLD Lucid Dreams 12225 12075 150 52.508 9 8 ARIANA GRANDE Breathin 12052 10652 1400 67.115 12 9 PANIC! AT THE DISCO High Hopes 11383 9368 2015 61.262 8 10 NF Lie 11362 10859 503 48.444
10 11 BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID Eastside 10784 10303 481 50.228 11 12 BEBE REXHA I'm A Mess 9574 9765 -191 37.289 15 13 HALSEY Without Me 8892 7502 1390 44.698 13 14 IMAGINE DRAGONS Natural 8720 9335 -615 32.694 14 15 BAZZI Beautiful f/Camila Cabello 7883 7562 321 35.099 16 16 LOVELYTHEBAND Broken 7596 7425 171 30.394 17 17 SHAWN MENDES & ZEDD Lost In Japan (Remix) 7280 7230 50 32.210 21 18 POST MALONE & SWAE LEE Sunflower 5339 4349 990 23.491 19 19 SILK CITY F/DIPLO/MARK RONSON Electricity f/Dua Lipa 4859 4505 354 19.939 23 20 CAMILA CABELLO Consequences 4245 3681 564 16.754
22 21 CALVIN HARRIS & SAM SMITH Promises 4149 4245 -96 18.415 24 22 LSD (LABRINTH/SIA/DIPLO) Thunderclouds 3310 3234 76 11.275 26 23 TRAVIS SCOTT Sicko Mode 3285 2930 355 11.399 29 24 LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER Shallow 2779 2276 503 10.363 27 25 DRAKE Don't Matter To Me f/M Jackson 2484 2376 108 6.080 20 26 TIESTO & DZEKO Jackie Chan f/Preme/PostMalone 2392 4435 -2043 13.756 30 27 THE CHAINSMOKERS F/K BALLERINI This Feeling 2321 2006 315 9.411 25 28 DJ KHALED/BIEBER/CHANCE/QUAVO No Brainer 2247 2951 -704 11.970 31 29 KHALID Better 2225 1913 312 7.552 32 30 DEAN LEWIS Be Alright 2114 1881 233 8.328
34 31 ALESSIA CARA Trust My Lonely 2087 1825 262 6.590 38 32 DJ SNAKE/SELENA/OZUNA/CARDI B Taki Taki 1964 1417 547 8.271 35 33 LOUD LUXURY Body f/Brando 1844 1721 123 6.735 56 34 ARIANA GRANDE thank u, next 1808 317 1491 14.162 36 35 DAN + SHAY Tequila 1694 1518 176 6.789 39 36 WHY DON'T WE 8 Letters 1629 1327 302 6.651 33 37 DRAKE In My Feelings 1565 1876 -311 6.608 28 38 TYGA Taste f/Offset 1467 2372 -905 6.067 37 39 TWENTY ONE PILOTS My Blood 1458 1425 33 3.320 45 40 ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO Close To Me f/Swae Lee 1344 729 615 5.369
44 41 STEVE AOKI Waste It On Me f/BTS 1052 736 316 2.296 47 42 ZARA LARSSON Ruin My Life 1019 647 372 2.251 41 43 AJ MITCHELL Girls 976 929 47 1.431 48 44 LAUV There's No Way f/JuliaMichaels 738 590 148 1.070 52 45 LUKAS GRAHAM Love Someone 679 511 168 1.672 46 46 YG F/2 CHAINZ, BIG SEAN, NICKI Big Bank 646 684 -38 1.460 43 47 GRYFFIN Tie Me Down f/Elley Duhe 624 757 -133 1.009 49 48 DILLON FRANCIS White Boi f/Lao Ra 622 569 53 1.281 50 49 ELIJAH WOODS X JAMIE FINE Ain't Easy 607 556 51 0.918 51 50 RITA ORA Let You Love Me 592 516 76 1.147
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Post by dlhealy2007 on Nov 13, 2018 9:14:16 GMT -5
It's extremely annoying. Especially "Love Lies." I can't think of the last time I've been so burnt out on a song. New Rules? I'd still take New Rules any day over Love Lies.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 19:56:33 GMT -5
^I'd happily take them both...on my own time. I just need radio to make it make sense. Like, I know Ariana has a lot in rotation rn but GIAW being prepped to exit the top five before Youngblood and LL and possibly even GLY is absurd.
The issue is exacerbated with LL b/c its impact was so staggered. There were still people 'discovering' the song in September and October - I swear it was like radio stations were finding new rocks just to blast LL at whoever may be hiding under them - so it's still not an 'old' song to at least 1/3 of the audience. I know that's not a unique phenomenon but for some reason I cannot think of any song that has ever had the same kind of stretched out pacing LL has had.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 14, 2018 7:19:57 GMT -5
WEDNESDAY UPDATE:
3 1 MARSHMELLO Happier f/Bastille 16000 14885 1115 76.573 2 2 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER Youngblood 14914 15967 -1053 78.590 1 3 ARIANA GRANDE God Is A Woman 14682 16613 -1931 74.908 4 4 KHALID X NORMANI Love Lies 14344 14485 -141 83.132 5 5 MAROON 5 Girls Like You f/Cardi B 13038 13612 -574 74.539 6 6 POST MALONE Better Now 12822 13441 -619 71.291 9 7 ARIANA GRANDE Breathin 12282 10835 1447 68.338 7 8 JUICE WRLD Lucid Dreams 12203 12156 47 52.458 12 9 PANIC! AT THE DISCO High Hopes 11580 9719 1861 61.805 8 10 NF Lie 11406 10974 432 48.605
10 11 BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID Eastside 10868 10308 560 50.188 11 12 BEBE REXHA I'm A Mess 9388 9767 -379 36.521 14 13 HALSEY Without Me 9112 7674 1438 46.132 13 14 IMAGINE DRAGONS Natural 8411 9269 -858 31.098 15 15 BAZZI Beautiful f/Camila Cabello 7845 7617 228 35.294 16 16 LOVELYTHEBAND Broken 7634 7393 241 30.551 17 17 SHAWN MENDES & ZEDD Lost In Japan (Remix) 7247 7210 37 32.027 20 18 POST MALONE & SWAE LEE Sunflower 5475 4461 1014 23.855 19 19 SILK CITY F/DIPLO/MARK RONSON Electricity f/Dua Lipa 4929 4585 344 20.085 23 20 CAMILA CABELLO Consequences 4319 3755 564 17.102
21 21 CALVIN HARRIS & SAM SMITH Promises 4005 4244 -239 17.633 24 22 LSD (LABRINTH/SIA/DIPLO) Thunderclouds 3343 3225 118 11.432 25 23 TRAVIS SCOTT Sicko Mode 3321 3000 321 11.837 28 24 LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER Shallow 2839 2350 489 10.453 27 25 DRAKE Don't Matter To Me f/M Jackson 2506 2413 93 6.187 30 26 THE CHAINSMOKERS F/K BALLERINI This Feeling 2394 2030 364 9.839 31 27 KHALID Better 2278 1960 318 7.705 22 28 TIESTO & DZEKO Jackie Chan f/Preme/PostMalone 2243 4038 -1795 12.924 26 29 DJ KHALED/BIEBER/CHANCE/QUAVO No Brainer 2173 2821 -648 11.479 32 30 DEAN LEWIS Be Alright 2141 1902 239 8.275
53 31 ARIANA GRANDE thank u, next 2083 492 1591 15.502 33 32 ALESSIA CARA Trust My Lonely 2083 1861 222 6.614 37 33 DJ SNAKE/SELENA/OZUNA/CARDI B Taki Taki 2058 1474 584 8.585 35 34 LOUD LUXURY Body f/Brando 1850 1741 109 6.840 36 35 DAN + SHAY Tequila 1713 1559 154 6.786 39 36 WHY DON'T WE 8 Letters 1645 1373 272 6.775 34 37 DRAKE In My Feelings 1530 1852 -322 6.372 38 38 TWENTY ONE PILOTS My Blood 1472 1433 39 3.326 44 39 ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO Close To Me f/Swae Lee 1454 797 657 5.766 29 40 TYGA Taste f/Offset 1393 2203 -810 5.838
46 41 ZARA LARSSON Ruin My Life 1071 731 340 2.382 43 42 STEVE AOKI Waste It On Me f/BTS 1067 820 247 2.294 40 43 AJ MITCHELL Girls 1002 925 77 1.400 48 44 LAUV There's No Way f/JuliaMichaels 762 604 158 1.134 51 45 LUKAS GRAHAM Love Someone 691 564 127 1.656 47 46 YG F/2 CHAINZ, BIG SEAN, NICKI Big Bank 640 676 -36 1.423 49 47 DILLON FRANCIS White Boi f/Lao Ra 637 581 56 1.295 52 48 RITA ORA Let You Love Me 617 533 84 1.147 50 49 ELIJAH WOODS X JAMIE FINE Ain't Easy 612 575 37 0.915 54 50 BAD BUNNY MIA f/Drake 600 480 120 3.917
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 14, 2018 17:55:21 GMT -5
This is the published chart from Sunday, formatted with the weeks and peak positions. I do this each week (and save it in the txt document with my weekly personal chart) to help keep me in the loop on what the pop chart looks like.
To add to the discussion from earlier, I'm finding it increasingly fascinating how, for the last year or couple years, songs are taking so long to peak and when they do, they hang around in the upper reaches for so long. 5 of the Top 6 are all former #1s (and the only non-#1 as of Sunday is there now so the entire Top 5) - I don't think I've ever seen that before.
I keep trying to come up with a theory as to why the pop chart has been moving the way it does. It has almost fallen into a paint-by-numbers pattern where songs will debut and rise in chunks, moving up only when old songs go recurrent or tumble. The ones that withstand the rise into the Top 10, finally do so after months of upward movements and the ones that are able to go all the way, do so after 20+ weeks. That's the norm. Ariana hitting #1 in her 15th week is among the fastest risers to the top in recent times. Marshmello/Bastille doing it in week 12 is especially fast. My theory I guess has to do with listening habits. I never look at call-out results but I'd be willing to bet the burn rate for most of the bigger hits isn't as high as it used to be. My guess is that total listening time to radio has decreased for most listeners so they don't get sick of songs due to overplay the way they used to. But people still like familiarity in the music they hear (radio comfort, if you will) so radio will hold on to the big hits of yesterday while VERY slowly introducing new songs into the mix - hence the slow rises. So I guess, if people listened to radio for longer periods of time, there would be a faster turnover.
TW LW WK PP Title - Artist 40* -- 1 40 Close To Me - Ellie Goulding x Diplo f/Swae Lee 39* -- 1 39 thank u, next - Ariana Grande 38* 37 3 37 My Blood - Twenty One Pilots 37* 39 2 37 8 Letters - Why Don't We 36* 36 4 36 Tequila - Dan + Shay 35 31 17 6 In My Feelings - Drake 34 27 12 23 Taste - Tyga f/Offset 33* 38 2 33 Taki Taki - DJ Snake, Selena Gomez, Ozuna & Cardi B. 32* 35 9 32 Body - Loud Luxury f/Brando 31* 32 3 31 Be Alright - Dean Lewis 30* 34 4 30 Trust My Lonely - Alessia Cara 29* 33 3 29 Better - Khalid 28* 30 5 28 This Feeling - Chainsmokers f/Kelsea Ballerini 27 24 16 7 No Brainer - DJ Khaled f/Justin Bieber, Chance The Rapper and Quavo 26* 28 4 26 Don't Matter To Me - Drake f/Michael Jackson 25* 29 3 25 Shallow - Lady Gaga & Bradley Cooper 24 19 19 14 Jackie Chan - Tiësto & Dzeko f/Post Malone & Preme 23* 26 8 23 Sicko Mode - Travis Scott 22* 25 8 22 Thunderclouds - LSD 21* 23 4 21 Consequences - Camila Cabello 20* 21 12 20 Promises - Calvin Harris & Sam Smith 19* 20 8 19 Electricity - Silk City & Dua Lipa f/Diplo & Mark Ronson 18* 22 3 18 Sunflower - Post Malone & Swae Lee 17* 17 7 17 Lost In Japan - Shawn Mendes f/Zedd 16* 15 15 15 Broken - lovetheband 15* 14 13 14 Beautiful - Bazzi f/Camila Cabello 14* 16 5 14 Without Me - Halsey 13 12 14 11 Natural - Imagine Dragons 12* 11 20 10 I'm A Mess - Bebe Rexha 11* 10 16 10 Eastside - Benny Blanco f/Halsey and Khalid ------------------*** GREATEST GAINER ***----------------- 10* 13 11 10 High Hopes - Panic! At The Disco #9* 8 24 8 Lie - NF #8* 9 9 8 Breathin' - Ariana Grande #7* 7 17 7 Lucid Dreams - Juice Wrld #6 6 23 1 Better Now - Post Malone #5 5 23 1 Girls Like You - Maroon 5 f/Cardi B #4 3 33 1 Love Lies - Khalid x Normani #3 2 23 1 Youngblood - 5 Seconds of Summer #2* 4 11 2 Happier - Marshmello f/Bastille --------------------*** 2 WEEKS @ #1 ***------------------ #1 1 16 1 God Is A Woman - Ariana Grande ——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
Dropping Off Chart -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- TW LW WK PP Title - Artist -- 40 4 38 I Love It - Kanye West & Lil'Pump rec 18 24 15 Drew Barrymore - Bryce Vine
Top 5 N&A -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- #5 Big Bank - YG f/2 Chainz, Big Sean & Nicki Minaj #4 There's No Way - Lauv f/Julia Michaels #3 Ruin My Life - Zara Larsson #2 Girls - AJ Mitchell #1 Waste It - Steve Aoki f/BTS
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 15, 2018 7:12:44 GMT -5
THURSDAY UPDATE:
3 1 MARSHMELLO Happier f/Bastille 16228 15060 1168 77.951 2 2 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER Youngblood 14878 15849 -971 78.159 1 3 ARIANA GRANDE God Is A Woman 14218 16477 -2259 72.848 4 4 KHALID X NORMANI Love Lies 14181 14528 -347 81.816 5 5 MAROON 5 Girls Like You f/Cardi B 12880 13553 -673 73.716 6 6 POST MALONE Better Now 12696 13358 -662 70.447 8 7 ARIANA GRANDE Breathin 12564 11052 1512 70.000 7 8 JUICE WRLD Lucid Dreams 12215 12204 11 52.253 11 9 PANIC! AT THE DISCO High Hopes 11946 10021 1925 63.412 9 10 NF Lie 11478 11023 455 49.060
10 11 BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID Eastside 10875 10418 457 50.037 14 12 HALSEY Without Me 9347 7850 1497 47.568 12 13 BEBE REXHA I'm A Mess 8990 9755 -765 35.106 13 14 IMAGINE DRAGONS Natural 7965 9233 -1268 29.305 15 15 BAZZI Beautiful f/Camila Cabello 7948 7631 317 36.191 16 16 LOVELYTHEBAND Broken 7615 7453 162 30.438 17 17 SHAWN MENDES & ZEDD Lost In Japan (Remix) 7274 7282 -8 31.877 20 18 POST MALONE & SWAE LEE Sunflower 5690 4584 1106 24.766 19 19 SILK CITY F/DIPLO/MARK RONSON Electricity f/Dua Lipa 5011 4646 365 20.069 22 20 CAMILA CABELLO Consequences 4382 3850 532 17.490
21 21 CALVIN HARRIS & SAM SMITH Promises 3791 4280 -489 16.737 25 22 TRAVIS SCOTT Sicko Mode 3369 3044 325 12.416 24 23 LSD (LABRINTH/SIA/DIPLO) Thunderclouds 3351 3237 114 11.296 28 24 LADY GAGA & BRADLEY COOPER Shallow 2897 2407 490 10.650 27 25 DRAKE Don't Matter To Me f/M Jackson 2534 2425 109 6.196 47 26 ARIANA GRANDE thank u, next 2485 695 1790 17.702 29 27 THE CHAINSMOKERS F/K BALLERINI This Feeling 2423 2077 346 9.989 31 28 KHALID Better 2336 2012 324 7.900 32 29 DEAN LEWIS Be Alright 2195 1911 284 8.235 37 30 DJ SNAKE/SELENA/OZUNA/CARDI B Taki Taki 2168 1537 631 8.965
26 31 DJ KHALED/BIEBER/CHANCE/QUAVO No Brainer 2159 2716 -557 11.387 33 32 ALESSIA CARA Trust My Lonely 2151 1855 296 6.903 23 33 TIESTO & DZEKO Jackie Chan f/Preme/PostMalone 2146 3713 -1567 12.292 35 34 LOUD LUXURY Body f/Brando 1864 1767 97 6.873 36 35 DAN + SHAY Tequila 1729 1582 147 6.805 39 36 WHY DON'T WE 8 Letters 1682 1398 284 6.733 42 37 ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO Close To Me f/Swae Lee 1587 852 735 6.307 34 38 DRAKE In My Feelings 1491 1807 -316 6.121 38 39 TWENTY ONE PILOTS My Blood 1483 1444 39 3.332 30 40 TYGA Taste f/Offset 1347 2046 -699 5.699
45 41 ZARA LARSSON Ruin My Life 1131 790 341 2.589 41 42 STEVE AOKI Waste It On Me f/BTS 1073 882 191 2.229 40 43 AJ MITCHELL Girls 1020 938 82 1.405 49 44 LAUV There's No Way f/JuliaMichaels 791 627 164 1.170 50 45 LUKAS GRAHAM Love Someone 719 599 120 1.809 51 46 DILLON FRANCIS White Boi f/Lao Ra 638 594 44 1.285 53 47 RITA ORA Let You Love Me 637 543 94 1.165 48 48 YG F/2 CHAINZ, BIG SEAN, NICKI Big Bank 626 679 -53 1.477 52 49 ELIJAH WOODS X JAMIE FINE Ain't Easy 623 587 36 0.935 54 50 BAD BUNNY MIA f/Drake 618 496 122 4.188
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 10:29:31 GMT -5
My theory I guess has to do with listening habits. I never look at call-out results but I'd be willing to bet the burn rate for most of the bigger hits isn't as high as it used to be. My guess is that total listening time to radio has decreased for most listeners so they don't get sick of songs due to overplay the way they used to. But people still like familiarity in the music they hear (radio comfort, if you will) so radio will hold on to the big hits of yesterday while VERY slowly introducing new songs into the mix - hence the slow rises. So I guess, if people listened to radio for longer periods of time, there would be a faster turnover. This makes a lot of sense. I don't know what the old burn rates used to be, but when I look at callouts now I consider 15% burn a high/'gtfo' rate. Love Lies is just now at a 14.5% burn and GLY and Better only recently got above 15%. I would add to your theory that radio also seems to hold on to songs with high favorite and very high net positive rates longer b/c they're waiting on feedback for newer songs, and pds would rather run a slight risk of annoying us with overplaying old but proven songs than taking a gamble on something new only to discover that listeners don't like it nearly as much as they did the old stuff. Radio seems deathly afraid of getting it 'wrong' to the point that even if they do occasionally let a bad one get through - say, No Brainer - they'll hold on to that badly testing song for months (albeit on the lower end of the top 10) instead of just dropping it and moving on to something else. Ariana is one of the few who gets her songs in and out fairly fast, and that is probably owing more to how her label handles promotion than it does to radio trying to be rid of her quickly.
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Post by nick64 on Nov 15, 2018 10:47:19 GMT -5
I can see “Happier” getting a good month in at the top. It’s doing great on all metrics, including callout, the closest competition is still 4000 spins out, and it still has about 3000 spins to gain before it’s “maxed out”. Hopefully it can hit #1 on the Hot 100 too with all of this.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 15, 2018 10:50:40 GMT -5
GIAW -464 LL -163 GLY -158 BN -126
I mean the other three having losses less than a third of Ari's is a total crock of s**t but I can only hope that the three of those songs having triple digit losses at ALL is the first sign of an implosion (and Bebe/IG also dropped several hundred spins each today so I seriously hope the rest of the top 20 is about to get kicked upstairs into the top 10).
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Post by nick64 on Nov 15, 2018 11:46:37 GMT -5
To be fair, “Love Lies”, “Better Now”, and “Girls Like You” were certainly all bigger than “God Is a Woman”, plus Ari has two other songs rocketing up the chart right now. But yeah, I’m ready for all of them to gtfo.
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