bornfearless2000
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Aug 18, 2012 9:22:35 GMT -5
The third single is really important. BA has helped album sales, so you want that trend to continue into the holiday season. I'm hoping for DYTAM but I fear that Carrie may not think its radio friendly enough. My gut tells me Cupid is next, and I think it would be a mistake. People will just compare that song to Miranda, and I don't think it will help album sales. TBC is my favorite song on the album, but I don't think she'd release BA and TBC back-to-back. yes i agree. BA album is selling so consistently these past 3-4 weeks thanks to BA single. I have feeling that DYTAM is the next single. EDIT : BLOWN AWAY is down to #14 as PONTOON passed it. The chance for top ten is now gone.
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Post by cufan7 on Aug 18, 2012 12:55:30 GMT -5
EDIT : BLOWN AWAY is down to #14 as PONTOON passed it. The chance for top ten is now gone. It's chances are no where close to gone. It is continuously rising in airplay (currently at #16 on mediabase country chart), probably still has a couple televised performances somewhere down the road, and maybe even a discount on the album / promotion on iTunes which would certainly increase the sales of the single. Plus it sits at #12 on iTunes currently. Anything can happen. As far as the Teacher's Rock performance of NETY, I thought it was as good as it could be and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Sounded great, looked great, good cause. It was pleasant.
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Post by countryfan1985 on Aug 18, 2012 14:13:29 GMT -5
Its not time to give up on Blown Away..
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Post by livelikedying111 on Aug 18, 2012 14:34:14 GMT -5
Why have her album sales gone down in such an obvious trend? I'm asking because I'm concerened. I've always thought of Carrie as so successful but with each release she sells less and less. Is it because of the bad shape of the industry or do you guys, as people who know her music think she's not as good as used to be? Can't say I'm a fan but I don't like seeing her like this. This is a serious question, so please no hater and stuff ish.
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Post by Cripple Bitch on Aug 18, 2012 14:47:36 GMT -5
Why have her album sales gone down in such an obvious trend? I'm asking because I'm concerened. I've always thought of Carrie as so successful but with each release she sells less and less. Is it because of the bad shape of the industry or do you guys, as people who know her music think she's not as good as used to be? Can't say I'm a fan but I don't like seeing her like this. This is a serious question, so please no hater and stuff ish. Well, for starters, all of her prior albums were released during the holiday season. Carrie wanted to take some extra time with BA, hence the May release. BA (the song) is selling the album at a consistent rate and is potentially shaping up to be one of her biggest singles ever. The album will have (and has) legs. She'll have no problem scanning 1.2-1.5 million when the era is all said and done (IMO), which, in this climate, is very respectable for any artist.
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Post by quincyeyes on Aug 18, 2012 14:49:22 GMT -5
I would like to see LLA next b/c I would like something more country. I'm not a fan of DYTAM. I think I'm the only one who isn't. But I don't see either of those songs continuing to sell the album like TBC would. I think TBC would be the best to keep propelling album sales. There are reasons I wouldn't want them back to back but I think that is the choice if you are strictly looking at selling the album. jmho.
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Post by yolo on Aug 18, 2012 16:55:57 GMT -5
This is an unbiased opinion (I'm not a huge fan but I buy the singles I like)on why I think her CD sales have declined. I don't think she's had a great song since BHC with the exception of the current single BA. That said, I personally feel it was a big mistake to not release BA as the lead single to this era. If I had been making the decisions I would have went with BA first and I think it would have peaked quicker than GG did, and then I would have gone with OWT second and come back with TBC third. I also believe the single choices on the 2nd and 3rd Albums were terrible and thus the decline in Sales. Those things along with Carrie not wanting to promote great songs like BA to other formats probably have attributed to the decline.
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Post by CarrieUfan on Aug 18, 2012 17:39:29 GMT -5
I think the main reason for the decline is the fact that ''Some Hearts'' had BHC, it crossed over and still is one of the longest charting songs on the Hot 100 and is one of the reasons why ''Some Hearts'' sold as much as it did, and it had JTTW, still her longest country #1 single and also one of her signature hits. And she just came off American Idol. Also, sales in general have been downhill. ''Carnival Ride'' didn't have those big hits that ''Some Hearts'' had, but it did have the hype because of the previous album. ''Play On'' had imo the worst singles, but sold over 2 million, which is pretty amazing for the current sales climate. ''Blown Away'', like previously said, didn't have a fourth quarter release, so the start is difficult to compare. But the single is doing great things for the album, which is back in the top 20 after more then 3 months. And we're just on the second single, so 700k sold (next week) is pretty great I think. If BA would crossover it would outsell PO I think, but as that will probably not happen because the label doesn't really have the connections and Carrie doesn't seem interested at all, I think it will sell around 1.5 million in the end.
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Post by jptexas on Aug 18, 2012 18:07:25 GMT -5
If Carrie had crossover ambitions, she would be selling way more than she currently does. But, she doesn't tweak her material for pop consumption. Having said that most country artists would love Carrie's sales ability. It's easy when your music is being played on country as well as pop stations to have incredible sales. BHC is a prime example. That's alot Of spins and AI's. But, she has her own reasons for what she does. I don't get It but it is what it is.
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Post by spencer on Aug 18, 2012 21:15:06 GMT -5
I think it is premature to call an album that is not yet 4 months old.. is only on it's 2nd single and has sold, in rounded numbers, 700thousand.... unsuccessful. It's sales to date compare and/or are better than other country albums released almost a year ago. Carrie has had nothing but multi-platinum albums and I think she is still on track to go platinum with her 4th. album, despite the disadvantage of a 1st quarter release. Carrie is still the best-selling female country artist. (I'm sorry, but I don't think of Taylor as a country artist.)
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Post by Carlyle on Aug 19, 2012 2:03:26 GMT -5
It's inevitable. As time goes on an artist loses sales due to many factors. One being, they've been in the biz. for quite some time now. They are no longer fresh. I like BA, but I don't think it's amazing.
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 19, 2012 3:49:25 GMT -5
You guys are pretty spoiled with your sales numbers. Carrie is one of the most reliable sellers in mainstream music--she's doing great and will continue to do so. Blown Away is just getting started. Yuck at the thought of NETY being a single.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Aug 19, 2012 6:03:07 GMT -5
If Carrie had crossover ambitions, she would be selling way more than she currently does. But, she doesn't tweak her material for pop consumption. Having said that most country artists would love Carrie's sales ability. It's easy when your music is being played on country as well as pop stations to have incredible sales. BHC is a prime example. That's alot Of spins and AI's. But, she has her own reasons for what she does. I don't get It but it is what it is. I completely agree. She would sell much much more if she has the intention to remix her songs to Pop. For example, COWBOY CASANOVA sold over 1.8 million WITHOUT pop remix, compare that to Taylor's MINE which sold at the same amount with Pop remix. Carrie's sales are fine. Her singles are selling very consistent. Almost all her singles went Platinum. Her album sales , BLOWN AWAY, is fine too. It has sold almost 700k (will pass 700k next week) within 3-4 months. With BA just started to kick in, the sales will go even higher. Not to count that there will be single number 3,4, and 5.
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Post by countryfan1985 on Aug 19, 2012 9:25:48 GMT -5
You know any of the songs on Blown Away can be singles.
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Post by neally on Aug 19, 2012 9:56:50 GMT -5
I am also wholly perplexed at the aforementioned concerns about her album sales at this point. Selling nearly 700k in under 4 months without full realization of it's biggest (current) single and likely 2-3 more successful singles to follow is something most artists, save Taylor Swift, Adele, and perhaps Lady Gaga, would snatch without any thought.
When one considers the significant worldwide decline in album sales, I feel strongly that total US sales of 1.3-1.5 million copies of 'Blown Away' by the close of this era would be the definition of era-to-era consistency.
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Post by jptexas on Aug 19, 2012 16:27:36 GMT -5
^^^yep, what he said.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 17:17:37 GMT -5
Yeah, the sales of this album are very solid when you put it in perspective. As both neally and dbhmr both said, Carrie's such a reliable seller, both in albums and singles (even her weaker singles, i.e., MS, went Gold), so the fact that BA is at 700k in just 4 months is pretty amazing.
Also, note that the reason Carrie was over 1 million so much quicker with her previous efforts can be vastly lent to the fact that all of her first 3 albums were released during the holiday season. The fact that she's already at 700k without any form of holiday boost (minus the Mother's Day cushion) is amazing considering all of her other efforts have heavily relied on that factor.
The album is doing perfectly fine, the single progression on iTunes has been the best Carrie's ever had, and her tour hasn't even started. Everything will be just fine. I wouldn't be surprised to see this album near 1.7 million US sales or so by the time the era wraps, which is incredibly respectable and would about match PO's close.
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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 19, 2012 18:32:33 GMT -5
Considering CD sales have been falling for basically a decade now, it isn't sales we should go by. It's position. Where were her other CDs on the chart position-wise at this point in their run compared to BA?
The reason her debut sold so well is a few things; initial hype off her AI win (which meant more than than it does now), the crossover success of its singles ("BHC" most obviously, but "JTTW" got some AC play and "SH" got a little play at various formats), and then the debut artist thing. Pretty much any artist who has a huge debut CD only sells half (or less) with their next release (see Mariah Carey, Alanis Morissette, Hootie & The Blowfish, Norah Jones, Jewel, Christina Aguilera, etc). Of those I just mentioned, only Mariah didn't keep declining in sales. So what has happened with Carrie is normal. She has managed to still have #1 country hits and solid sales, so her standing in music is fine.
I do hope the BA album rebounds a bit more, though. Yes its sales have started to stagnate, but it would be nice to see it get back in the top 10. Hopefully "BA" rising and then a CMA performance and win or two can help with that.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Aug 20, 2012 23:46:25 GMT -5
HDD prediction
NOW IN: 31.77%
16 21 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 3,756 BLOWN AWAY
It's probably not from Country update, just Pop.
Does anyone remember if BA ever got discounted before?
Kelly's Stronger got discounted this week at BestBuy and the sales increased again. which is great because the album is awesome.
Lionel Richie's album was on sales several times on amazon and itunes.
So i think they should put BA on sales just for once. lol
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Post by leilamaurizia on Aug 21, 2012 8:41:17 GMT -5
Carrie Underwood, Blown Away (72,000, +11%, 436,000) Carrie Underwood, Good Girl (14,000, -11%, 1.282 million) Brad Paisley/Carrie Underwood, Remind Me (-6%, 1.617 million) Carrie Underwood, How Great Thou Art (2,000, -8%, 353,000) Carrie Underwood, Blown Away (16,000 -3%, 689,000) (#16 Billboard 200) Carrie Underwood, Some Hearts (2,000, -24%, 7.226 million) Carrie Underwood, Play On (1,000, -10%, 2.129 milliion) Idol Chatter
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Post by cufan7 on Aug 21, 2012 11:50:52 GMT -5
That is one thing her label needs to be more aggressive with: sales. They are finally putting her catalog albums on sale often at different outlets but they need to be doing that with "Blown Away". I'm not even talking about the real big $2.99 sales on Amazon and stuff. How about lowering the price to $9.99 on iTunes and then putting it for sale at $7.99 with some ads. I can't speak for stores as I purchase the majority of my music digitally these days, but I haven't seen "Blown Away" on sale in a store since the week it came out.
As more and more artists are becoming increasingly more aggressive with low prices to drive sales, I think more and more consumers (like myself) anticipate these low prices and even wait to buy an album then. Other than probably about 7 or so artists whom I would buy their album first week it is out, I usually wait for these deals to snatch up the cd, and usually it's on Amazon. Often times, it's an album or artist where I only like a song or so, or have interest in, and then I end up listening and enjoying the majority of the album and become a fan of the artist (Ed Sheeran, Hunter Hayes, Jana Kramer, and Frank Ocean are a few recent examples, got each of their albums for $2.99 on Amazon I believe and now enjoy them as artists). Sales truly are great promotion and I think Carrie could greatly benefit from them.
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Post by countryfan1985 on Aug 21, 2012 14:12:16 GMT -5
The CMA nominations are September 5th on abc and The Grammys Nominations is in Nashville airing December 5th on CBS.
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Post by Cripple Bitch on Aug 21, 2012 15:36:57 GMT -5
The eligibility period was from July 1st, 2011, to June 30th, 2012. So with that, this is what nominations I can see her getting... - Single of the Year - "Good Girl"
- Album of the Year - Blown Away
- Female Vocalist of the Year
I see Miranda winning all of these categories, tbh. CMA voters love her... but we'll have to see.
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Post by adwem on Aug 21, 2012 15:49:32 GMT -5
16 16 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 17,231 +7% BLOWN AWAY
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2012 16:26:22 GMT -5
The eligibility period was from July 1st, 2011, to June 30th, 2012. So with that, this is what nominations I can see her getting... - Single of the Year - "Good Girl"
- Album of the Year - Blown Away
- Female Vocalist of the Year
I see Miranda winning all of these categories, to be honest. CMA voters love her... but we'll have to see. Woah...I thought the eligibility period was earlier. I guess RM's chances for nominations were last year. That's pretty painful to see such a stellar collaboration not get any love, especially when they're the cohosts. Anyways, I really don't see Miranda winning all of these...at all. I also highly doubt that she'd win Single of the Year. "Over You" wasn't all that big as a single. Hell, GG was bigger than it. Carrie winning Female Vocalist doesn't seem all that far-fetched, either. Carrie's back in the race with Miranda this year. Last year? It was obvious Carrie was just a nomination. This year? It's between Miranda & Carrie.
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Post by adwem on Aug 21, 2012 16:27:31 GMT -5
I am not sure about RM. It still maybe eligible
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Post by Cripple Bitch on Aug 21, 2012 16:41:55 GMT -5
The eligibility period was from July 1st, 2011, to June 30th, 2012. So with that, this is what nominations I can see her getting... - Single of the Year - "Good Girl"
- Album of the Year - Blown Away
- Female Vocalist of the Year
I see Miranda winning all of these categories, to be honest. CMA voters love her... but we'll have to see. Woah...I thought the eligibility period was earlier. I guess RM's chances for nominations were last year. That's pretty painful to see such a stellar collaboration not get any love, especially when they're the cohosts. Anyways, I really don't see Miranda winning all of these...at all. I also highly doubt that she'd win Single of the Year. "Over You" wasn't all that big as a single. Hell, GG was bigger than it. Carrie winning Female Vocalist doesn't seem all that far-fetched, either. Carrie's back in the race with Miranda this year. Last year? It was obvious Carrie was just a nomination. This year? It's between Miranda & Carrie. I suppose. I'm really pessimistic when it comes to award shows. Didn't OY spend like 2 weeks at #1? Or am I making that up? I could have sworn it did, but maybe I'm wrong. In total agreement about the two-women race for FVOTY. Now that I think about it, since Miranda's won it for the last three years, maybe they'll change it up. In any case, I would love to see her take a few home. It's been way too long. I am not sure about RM. It still maybe eligible RM was released in May of last year.
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Post by adwem on Aug 21, 2012 17:03:20 GMT -5
If they were going to nominate RM as a single or song of the year they could due to the rules but they could not for musical event of the year
If the single charted in the Top 50 on the above charts and was released prior to the eligibility period but achieved its highest chart position during the eligibility period, it is eligible unless it has previously appeared on a Final Ballot in this category.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Aug 21, 2012 20:36:53 GMT -5
I think Carrie has a great shot at winning Female Vocalist. I think I say this every year, but this year she has actually been the leading female in Country music. Taylor has been quiet for most of the year, and Miranda's THTBM hype has finally died down. I don't expect anything from the CMAs, as they're so incredibly unpredictable and redundant, but the right winner this year would be Carrie. There's no doubt in my mind about that, but I wouldn't be at all shocked to hear Miranda's name called.
Hopefully by the final round of voting, "Blown Away" is smashing... That might sway a few votes for Carrie.
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Post by Kurt on Aug 21, 2012 20:38:28 GMT -5
"Blown Away" is now under Cool New Music for HAC and impacts there on September 17. :)
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