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Post by quincyeyes on Feb 19, 2013 12:08:03 GMT -5
This is late but I have watched it several times and I really loved Carrie's Grammy performance. I agree with the other positive comments posters have made here.
I love See You Again but I don't see what audience it would have at radio. I don't think country would accept it and I can see why. It also doesn't fit with the current pop landscape. Adult contemporary which back in the day seemed to be a more independent format now seems to be where pop songs go after they've peeked at pop radio. As much as I love See You Again I don't think it would do well on radio.
I really can't think of another song off the album that would help propel album sales. I love the idea of Carrie making Wine After Whiskey into a duet with a male country singer and releasing it but I don't think that will happen. People seem to like Good in Goodbye although it does nothing for me personally but I think they are looking for something a little more high octane after BA and 2BC.
I'm really at a loss for what the fourth single should be.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 19, 2013 14:16:18 GMT -5
I was wondering, what about recording "Wine After Whiskey" as a duet with a country male superstar and then releasing it as fifth single (after DYTAM, hopefully), similar to what happened to "I Told You So"? I see this song working as a duet and it would sort of make sense why she hasn't sung it on tour. I think it could work. I love the solo version, but the song would also definitely work as a duet. Cool idea. I like "See You Again," but why do people want it is as a 4th single? It isn't really country at all, and she's already gone pretty non-country with the first 3 singles. She needs to cater to her core audience with the next single.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Feb 20, 2013 5:44:05 GMT -5
Grammy bump ! :)
28 CARRIE UNDERWOOD BLOWN AWAY 23,419 +71%
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Post by peterca on Feb 20, 2013 13:38:47 GMT -5
From USA Today:
Carrie Underwood, Blown Away (24,000, +70%, 1.308 million) (No. 27 Billboard 200) Carrie Underwood, Play On (3,000, +31%, 2.182 million) Carrie Underwood, Some Hearts (3,000, +41%, 7.299 million) Carrie Underwood, Carnival Ride (2,000, +44%, 3.314 million)
Carrie Underwood, Two Black Cadillacs (60,000, +42%, 420,000) Carrie Underwood, Blown Away (55,000, +52%, 1.903 million) Carrie Underwood, Good Girl (12,000, +29%, 1.624 million) Carrie Underwood, Before He Cheats (7,000, +16%, 3.711 million) Carrie Underwood, Jesus, Take the Wheel (5,000, +21%, 2.135 million) Carrie Underwood, Temporary Home (2,000, +26%, 938,000) Carrie Underwood, How Great Thou Art (2,000, +23%, 410,000)
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 20, 2013 15:11:28 GMT -5
^Excellent! Only 200k away from Some Hearts getting to 7.5 million and 700k from Blown Away becoming Carrie Underwood's fourth multiplatinum CD!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 15:55:12 GMT -5
Very nice! TBC will be Gold within the next couple of weeks and BA will be 2x Platinum within that same time period.
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Post by Typo on Feb 20, 2013 16:26:49 GMT -5
She's mentioned in Clive's book. @windmillsmusic tweeted out a summary: Against my better judgment, snuck a quick peek at the Clive book. Has a whole chapter on Arista Nashville (Alan Jackson, Brooks & Dunn). Mentions Carrie at the end of Arista Nash chapter w/ more extensive talk in Idol chapter. Generally positive. Says he wishes she'd done more pop like he'd wanted (a la Taylor) but she made it clear she wanted to stick to country & 19E / Arista Nash backed her.
Expresses concern abt BA not initially selling the way her prev albums have but says it'll no doubt wind up 1 of the yr's biggest albums. Talks abt her Grammy wins & says she's more comfy in her own skin now.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 20, 2013 18:15:08 GMT -5
Blown Away received one of the smaller % bumps I've seen of Grammy-associated artists. That really surprises me seeing as she performed a medley of songs on it, and she won. Kelly Clarkson's album got a bigger boost, and she didn't even perform a song from it.
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Post by cufan7 on Feb 20, 2013 18:20:51 GMT -5
Blown Away received one of the smaller % bumps I've seen of Grammy-associated artists. That really surprises me seeing as she performed a medley of songs on it, and she won. Kelly Clarkson's album got a bigger boost, and she didn't even perform a song from it. It may seem ironic, but I feel that medley performances don't make as big of an impact on sales. To me, I would rather see one song showcased than parts of multiple ones... With that said, Carrie's worked well. But IDK, I still think we would have seen a bigger impact in every way if she just stuck with "Blown Away". I'm just such a fan of that song to this day.
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Post by realityBITES on Feb 20, 2013 18:31:51 GMT -5
A lot of albums were on sale for $6.99 this week at various outlets. I think that played a part, as well.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Feb 20, 2013 22:36:45 GMT -5
Carrie blogged and it was quite hilarious... Check it out if you're a member of the OFC.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 23:04:51 GMT -5
Blown Away received one of the smaller % bumps I've seen of Grammy-associated artists. That really surprises me seeing as she performed a medley of songs on it, and she won. Kelly Clarkson's album got a bigger boost, and she didn't even perform a song from it. It may seem ironic, but I feel that medley performances don't make as big of an impact on sales. To me, I would rather see one song showcased than parts of multiple ones... With that said, Carrie's worked well. But IDK, I still think we would have seen a bigger impact in every way if she just stuck with "Blown Away". I'm just such a fan of that song to this day. I LOVED Carrie's Grammy performance, but I would've loved it if she had sang BA acapella and left out TBC; that little bit was flawless. I'm generally not a fan of medley performances, but Carrie can pull any style off incredibly well, so it would've been fine with me. I think she's only done one medley performance at an awards show, so I think she probably likes to stick with one song as well. I know it's still awhile away, but I would love to see Carrie do something similar to her Grammy performance for the CMA's (or even ACM's), this year. I loved the 2012 CMA performance, but think about how much more epic it would be with an intro like the Grammy one, or even an acoustic version. I love when artists put new 'twists' on their songs, and the Grammy performance opened me up the idea of wanting Carrie to do something unique for the ACM's or CMA's. :)
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 20, 2013 23:11:00 GMT -5
ITA that keeping that opening of "BA" but then going into the more normal/dramatic version of the song would have absolutely slayed (even with the dress)!!
I am interested to see what she performs at the ACMs. "TBC" will likely have peaked then, so I assume she will do the 4th single. But if the next single is something like "One Way Ticket," that might seem odd in April (and it isn't a real vocal showcase).
I'd love if she got a solo performance and then, as someone here suggested, turned "Wine After Whiskey" into a duet with a male there.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Feb 21, 2013 9:16:46 GMT -5
She's mentioned in Clive's book. @windmillsmusic tweeted out a summary: Against my better judgment, snuck a quick peek at the Clive book. Has a whole chapter on Arista Nashville (Alan Jackson, Brooks & Dunn). Mentions Carrie at the end of Arista Nash chapter w/ more extensive talk in Idol chapter. Generally positive. Says he wishes she'd done more pop like he'd wanted (a la Taylor) but she made it clear she wanted to stick to country & 19E / Arista Nash backed her.
Expresses concern abt BA not initially selling the way her prev albums have but says it'll no doubt wind up 1 of the yr's biggest albums. Talks abt her Grammy wins & says she's more comfy in her own skin now. I somehow feel so proud of her. I actually want 'some' of her songs to get pop remix treatment . BUT 'she made it clear she wanted to stick to country' and never changes her mind. I can feel her love to Country music is as big as ocean. If only ACM/CMA can feel it too
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 16:36:19 GMT -5
She's mentioned in Clive's book. @windmillsmusic tweeted out a summary: Against my better judgment, snuck a quick peek at the Clive book. Has a whole chapter on Arista Nashville (Alan Jackson, Brooks & Dunn). Mentions Carrie at the end of Arista Nash chapter w/ more extensive talk in Idol chapter. Generally positive. Says he wishes she'd done more pop like he'd wanted (a la Taylor) but she made it clear she wanted to stick to country & 19E / Arista Nash backed her.
Expresses concern abt BA not initially selling the way her prev albums have but says it'll no doubt wind up 1 of the yr's biggest albums. Talks abt her Grammy wins & says she's more comfy in her own skin now. I somehow feel so proud of her. I actually want 'some' of her songs to get pop remix treatment . BUT 'she made it clear she wanted to stick to country' and never changes her mind. I can feel her love to Country music is as big as ocean. If only ACM/CMA can feel it too Totally agree. One of the things I adore about Carrie is her passion for country music and her desire to stay true to her art. She even said producers were pressuring her to make a pop album with "Some Hearts," and she was surprised because she made it clear from the start she only wanted to sing country music. But she put her foot down, and obviously it was the right move. :)
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Post by countrybamafan on Feb 21, 2013 23:38:57 GMT -5
I am interested to see what she performs at the ACMs. "TBC" will likely have peaked then, so I assume she will do the 4th single. I think she will still do TBC. Yes, it'll likely peak sometime in March and be on the way down, but Carrie performed BA on the CMA Awards well after it had peaked (and people were hoping she would do TBC then because of how much Carrie had already performed BA). On award shows, artists typically perform their latest hit (with a few exceptions, of course). I would like to be wrong and see her perform the 4th single (OWT, DYTAM, or WAW, of course), but I don't think it will happen. Anyway, I know a few here wish Carrie would at least send and remix some songs to pop, but I'm glad she hasn't. Although she might have sold more albums initially, I think it would come at a bigger expense. In my opinion, if Carrie had attempted to go more pop, there's a good chance she wouldn't be as popular now as she currently is. Taylor fits the pop market like a glove, from her bubbly personality to her songs that fit in with pop radio (from the production to the teen relationship lyrics) to her voice. While Carrie has some pop-sounding songs, she doesn't fit pop radio. She's much more reserved, is older (both in age and maturity), and doesn't sing many relationship songs, and even her pop-sounding songs don't really fit "current pop." Finally, her voice just does not have a natural "pop" sound. She has a country and rock voice through and through (She's at her best when she sings the classic country and classic rock songs). This isn't a slam against either Carrie or Taylor. I'm just stating that I don't think Carrie's best interest would have been to pursue pop success. Yes, Some Hearts may have been even bigger and sold over 10 million albums if she chased pop more, and she may have won even more awards right off the bat than she did. However, I think she would have fizzled out now. She certainly wouldn't have so many country #1 hits, and think of all the special events Carrie has been a part of over her short career, representing country music with true grace. In my opinion, I don't think that would have happened by chasing pop success. Personally, my personality is much more like Carrie's than Taylor's, and if I were in Carrie's situation, I would have done exactly what she did. I would prefer to be in her situation. In my opinion, Taylor is slowly burning bridges with country, and whenever she stops selling millions and millions of albums (which is going to happen someday, whether it's in the next year or five years from now), country will not be supporting her like they are now. Now, I don't think Taylor will disappear from the limelight altogether, but I can't see her sustaining this success forever, and when that happens, I don't think we'll be seeing as much of her. One more note. I'm surprised that Clive claimed he was initially disappointed with the sales of Blown Away. What did he expect? Album sales as a whole continue to decline, Carrie took a year break (and ended the last album, Play On, on kind of a low note, for her standards, with Mama's Song), and this was Carrie's first album to not be released near the holidays. She still sold very well when you compare all that. With its current sales, I certainly see Blown Away (the album) hitting 2x platinum (if not in sales, then in shipments) by the end of this year. She's only 700k away, and with at least one more single that should be released (hopefully two), ACMs, Mother's Day, Easter, spring tour, and the Broadway thing (which will expose her to a completely different audience than country or pop listeners), I think it will happen. In the end, Blown Away should pretty much match or even exceed Play On. Pretty great with the sales climate!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 0:14:12 GMT -5
I see Carrie doing TBC at the ACMs and then doing OWT at the CMT Music Awards in June (assuming that it'll be her fourth single).
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Post by TFMachado on Feb 22, 2013 9:22:48 GMT -5
I think since she's in between singles, maybe it'd be a great opportunity for her to sing a fan-favorite album cut from Blown Away at the ACMs that won't be considered as single, like she did with I Know You Won't at the PCAs. I know the circumstances are different but I think it would be a good way to please the fans, expose a different song and generate a surge on album sales. I'd go with Wine After Whiskey, Good in Goodbye, See You Again (though it's not country enough for the occasion) or even DYTAM (not my pick cuz I really don't like that song, and she's done it a couple of times elsewhere).
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Post by imafan on Feb 22, 2013 12:32:27 GMT -5
I guess if she wants to do something different, she could do a love song to her husband and sing "Who Are You". I find the posts calling her a man hater and saying "Isn't she happily married?" pretty funny. She has done so many revenge songs, a love song would be different for her. Though I would bet on TBC.
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Post by countrygirl918 on Feb 22, 2013 13:42:54 GMT -5
I guess if she wants to do something different, she could do a love song to her husband and sing "Who Are You". I find the posts calling her a man hater and saying "Isn't she happily married?" pretty funny. She has done so many revenge songs, a love song would be different for her. Though I would bet on TBC. Forget about Mama's Song already? ;)
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Post by imafan on Feb 22, 2013 16:08:48 GMT -5
No, didn't forget about the song, but did she ever do it on an award show. If she did I certainly forgot that :)
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Post by cufan7 on Feb 22, 2013 16:12:57 GMT -5
No, didn't forget about the song, but did she ever do it on an award show. If she did I certainly forgot that :) 2010 CMA's:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 17:26:42 GMT -5
Carrie is the 16th top moneymaker in music of the past 12 months, as tracked by Billboard. Funny enough, she needed just a little over 500k to top Taylor Swift, who came in at #15. Via estimates of Billboard, Carrie garnered $11,942,956.65. Taylor came in with $12,695,783.32. Also, TBC is up to #41 on the Hot 100 this week.
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Post by spencer on Feb 22, 2013 19:16:12 GMT -5
The discrepancy between Forbes list and Billboard is pretty large?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 20:38:18 GMT -5
The discrepancy between Forbes list and Billboard is pretty large? The Forbes list that recently came out was Summer of 2011 to Summer of 2012, most of which Carrie was inactive during (GG dropped in late February of 2012, 75% of the way into the measurement period). Billboard's consisted of all of 2012, which lies the difference since Carrie's been active from February 2012 and onward. The next Forbes list that comes out will surely have Carrie ranked much, much higher since it'll measure the second half of 2012 and the first half of 2013, all of which she toured. Just realized something while I was typing that -- as of tomorrow (Feb. 23), it'll have been a full year since GG dropped/the shitty countdown mess occurred. Seems like that was forever ago!
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Post by CammyCan on Feb 22, 2013 20:52:47 GMT -5
The Billboard list ranks artists based on musical ventures only (touring, album sales, digital sales), while Forbes estimates include endorsement deals/sponsorships/etc. I believe Taylor and Adele were the only two on the Billboard list to not have any of their money come from touring revenue.
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Post by musicjunky318 on Feb 22, 2013 23:32:25 GMT -5
14887fan I finally figured out where you got your name from. I was watching Carrie's audition today. :'(
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Post by TFMachado on Feb 23, 2013 6:11:22 GMT -5
The Billboard list ranks artists based on musical ventures only (touring, album sales, digital sales), while Forbes estimates include endorsement deals/sponsorships/etc. I believe Taylor and Adele were the only two on the Billboard list to not have any of their money come from touring revenue. apparently Taylor had 13 concerts in 2012, so that makes it only Adele with her huge, phenomenal year... Imagine if she could've toured, she'd be #1, over Madonna!!
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 23, 2013 21:58:08 GMT -5
I think since she's in between singles, maybe it'd be a great opportunity for her to sing a fan-favorite album cut from Blown Away at the ACMs that won't be considered as single, like she did with I Know You Won't at the PCAs. I know the circumstances are different but I think it would be a good way to please the fans, expose a different song and generate a surge on album sales. I'd go with Wine After Whiskey, Good in Goodbye, See You Again (though it's not country enough for the occasion) or even DYTAM (not my pick cuz I really don't like that song, and she's done it a couple of times elsewhere). I'm kinda hoping for this, too; not expecting, just hoping. She could easily do a more acoustic/country version of something like "See You Again." I was thinking she might do "Cupid" with Brad, but will he be there since he isn't nominated? He might still perform since he will probably have an album out then.
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Post by countrygirl918 on Feb 23, 2013 22:45:22 GMT -5
I think since she's in between singles, maybe it'd be a great opportunity for her to sing a fan-favorite album cut from Blown Away at the ACMs that won't be considered as single, like she did with I Know You Won't at the PCAs. I know the circumstances are different but I think it would be a good way to please the fans, expose a different song and generate a surge on album sales. I'd go with Wine After Whiskey, Good in Goodbye, See You Again (though it's not country enough for the occasion) or even DYTAM (not my pick cuz I really don't like that song, and she's done it a couple of times elsewhere). I'm kinda hoping for this, too; not expecting, just hoping. She could easily do a more acoustic/country version of something like "See You Again." I was thinking she might do "Cupid" with Brad, but will he be there since he isn't nominated? He might still perform since he will probably have an album out then. His album comes out April 9, two days after the ACMs. I think a performance slot for him (and The Band Perry, whose album comes out 5 days before the show) is pretty much guaranteed. However, I'd imagine he'll do his current single to promote it, not "Cupid" with Carrie. I would love for Carrie to do an album track at the ACMs, though. If "One Way Ticket" is indeed the next single, April seems a bit early to debut a performance of it. It'd be a better song for the CMT Awards. The ACMs would be a great way to show off an album track from Blown Away that will not be a single.
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