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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 14, 2012 10:04:38 GMT -5
Whitney Houston on Mediabase Golds Charts
This is the 7-day-rolling airplay, 2/7-2/13.
Rank (Rank last week)- Title: Number of spins (Trend compared to a week ago)- Number of stations
Pop Golds 10 (1155)- I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me): 347 spins (+345)- 100 stations 21 (867)- I Will Always Love You: 250 (+247)- 98 stations
Rhythmic Golds 9 (397)- I Will Always Love You: 165 (+152)- 54 stations 10- I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me): 157 (+157)- 54 stations 27 (1503)- How Will I Know: 105 (+103)- 42 stations
AC Golds 25 (338)- I Will Always Love You: 449 (+289)- 88 stations
Urban Golds 2 (1569)- I Will Always Love You: 198 (+195)- 58 stations 3- I'm Every Woman: 176 (+176)- 61 stations 4 (818)- You Give Good Love: 175 (+168)- 59 stations 5- I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me): 167 (+167)- 56 stations 6 (1531)- Heartbreak Hotel: 167 (+164)- 57 stations 7 (1300)- Exhale (Shoop Shoop): 159 (+155)- 54 stations 8- How Will I Know: 152 (+152)- 61 stations 9- The Greatest Love Of All: 151 (+151)- 61 stations 10 (1781)- Saving All My Love For You: 146 (+143)- 60 stations 11- I'm Your Baby Tonight: 131 (+131): 53 stations 12 (1506)- My Love Is Your Love: 122 (+119)- 51 stations
25 (541)- Million Dollar Bill: 85 (+84)- 44 stations 27- I Love The Lord: 84 (+84)- 38 stations 37- I Have Nothing: 74 (+74)- 37 stations
Urban AC Golds 1 (810)- I Will Always Love You: 622 (+596)- 72 stations 2 (341)- Saving All My Love For You: 555 (+483)- 72 stations 3 (77)- You Give Good Love: 548 (+400)- 71 stations 4 (1859)- he Greatest Love Of All: 495 (+489)- 72 stations 5 (445)- Exhale (Shoop Shoop): 390 (+331)- 71 stations 6 (800)- I'm Every Woman: 323 (+296)- 68 stations 7 (1358)- I'm Your Baby Tonight: 303 (+292)- 68 stations 9 (5827)- I Believe In You & Me: ...261 (+260)- 66 stations 10 (796)- Heartbreak Hotel: 258 (+231)- 60 stations 11 (1276)- I Have Nothing: 246 (+234)- 67 stations 12 (2101)-All The Man That I Need: 239 (+234)- 67 stations
23 (2904)- How Will I Know: 201 (+198)- 62 stations 25 (5958)- Didn't We Almost Have It All: 192 (+191)- 59 stations 30 (2174)- Where Do Broken Hearts Go: 182 (+178)- 57 stations
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Post by badrobot on Feb 14, 2012 10:04:39 GMT -5
1 Whitney Houston - I Will Always Love You 1.0000 2 Katy Perry - Part of Me 0.8033 3 ADELE - Rolling in the Deep 0.7858 4 ADELE - Set Fire to the Rain 0.5356 Not getting into all the math , but seeing that SFTTR has a 120pt advantage over RITD in airplay , Whitney would need to be selling at a 500,000 a week pace for Rolling to make up the airplay difference. (assuming that Rolling is selling at 75% of Whitney and 1.5x of Set Fire) That level of sales might not be impossible. Look at Kelly Clarkson all the way down at .3646 -- and that was selling in the low 200k range in previous weeks. There's no reason to think it had a huge drop. If she is selling just 180k then that is putting the #1 on target for that 500k figure. I have a feeling this week's sales will be massive.
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Post by Rodze on Feb 14, 2012 10:16:00 GMT -5
Fuck You sold over 400k last year after the Grammys, so, yeah, it is not totally out of the realm of possibility that the song(s) that stays at the top of iTunes the whole week can sell in the same range this week.
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Post by neverduplicated on Feb 14, 2012 10:40:26 GMT -5
As for this week's Hot 100, I wonder if the Grammy sales spike for SFTTR will put it back at number 1 or if Stronger will hold on. As for next week's Hot 100, I think we may be looking at Adele vs. Katy vs. Adele... lol, as in, SFTTR vs. Part of Me vs. RITD. Will be interesting to watch!
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Post by dlostfan on Feb 14, 2012 10:48:56 GMT -5
As for this week's Hot 100, I wonder if the Grammy sales spike for SFTTR will put it back at number 1 or if Stronger will hold on. As for next week's Hot 100, I think we may be looking at Adele vs. Katy vs. Adele... lol, as in, SFTTR vs. Part of Me vs. RITD. Will be interesting to watch! The boost for SFTTR was only during the last few hours and was not that much. I would expect Stronger to hold at #1 though it should be close, no doubt.
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Post by Rodze on Feb 14, 2012 11:43:17 GMT -5
Adele still managed to sell 47k copies of her album on iTunes alone on those few hours. It's probably gonna be close again.
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Post by Rodze on Feb 14, 2012 12:42:55 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/#/column/chartbeat/ask-billboard-can-katy-perry-top-michael-1006185152.storyAsk Billboard: Can Katy Perry Top Michael Jackson's Hot 100 Record? Hi Christopher, Thanks for the e-mail. I asked Billboard's director of charts, Silvio Pietroluongo, to address how Billboard will consider the angle going forward. Essentially, Billboard never analyzed the issue as thoroughly as until Perry matched Jackson and the possibility arose that Capitol Records would re-release of "Dream" in expanded form. At that point, the charts department considered that, as the practice of releasing deluxe editions has become fairly common in recent years, our commentary going forward will always need to be spell out exactly what feats we're highlighting. ("Part of Me" is due to debut on next week's Hot 100). Here is Pietroluongo's response: Billboard has attempted to do its best when linking singles to their appropriate parent albums but it has admittedly become a difficult task. As you know, the past few years have seen an increase in the practice of re-released or re-packaged albums, which have taken on many different forms. Some labels have tacked on one additional track to an album early in its chart life. Some even do so just for a digital release (i.e., Universal Republic's recent strategy for Jessie J's "Domino" on the digital version of "Who You Are"). Then, we see albums with just a few tracks tacked on in a modified version (think: Rihanna's "Reloaded"). Other albums receive a more extensive makeover, like Perry's upcoming "Dream" redux. So, I'm not going to say that Billboard has changed its policy on how we count such sets, since we really did not have a hard and fast rule to begin. However, when a record such as most No. 1s from an album comes into question, we do need to closely examine how we treat the situation, probably much more than was needed when we were tallying Rihanna's top 10 count from "Girl/Reloaded." We believe that the proper course of action going forward is to clearly qualify chart counts from either being from an album's initial release or its re-released version; and, keep the chart records separate, accordingly. Unfortunately, it's likely not going to end some of the murkiness, especially when a song or songs are added to an album relatively early in its existence. So, if we say that, "Perry and Jackson are tied for the most Hot 100 leaders from an album over one release," we're at least qualifying the parameters of the statistic. If Perry's new single, "Part of Me," hits No. 1 on the Hot 100, we could also say that, "Perry has tallied six Hot 100 No. 1s from 'Teenage Dream' and its re-released version. She remains tied with Jackson for the most toppers from an album over one release." (I also hope that whomever is tasked to do this research, say, 20 years from now will be able to tell all these album versions apart because we can tell you that keeping track of the many variations that have been released in the past few years has proven to be among our more difficult chores). Capitol and Perry, too, are content to have matched Jackson's esteemed milestone. "It was an incredible honor to tie the King of Pop's Billboard Hot 100 record, but I'm moving forward and had a few things left to get off my chest," she said in a press release promoting "Confection." "This is the complete special edition of my album for my fans." tl;dr Enough of those tactics Capitol. Have your five no. 1s from one album and be happy.
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Post by josh on Feb 14, 2012 12:47:11 GMT -5
Well, glad it's settled now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 12:48:05 GMT -5
"We believe that the proper course of action going forward is to clearly qualify chart counts from either being from an album's initial release or its re-released version; and, keep the chart records separate, accordingly. Unfortunately, it's likely not going to end some of the murkiness, especially when a song or songs are added to an album relatively early in its existence."
Interesting
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 12:49:17 GMT -5
So they're saying that they're going to cop-out and play the semantics game?
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Post by badrobot on Feb 14, 2012 13:23:01 GMT -5
How is that a cop-out?
This is the only way they can really handle it, I think. Just as the word "single" began to lose all meaning in the digital era (now we have "tracks" and "songs"), it seems "album" is starting to lose meaning in favor of "release."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 13:54:01 GMT -5
KATY PERRY - Part Of Me: 13.223 (+ 12.729) Is this another Clear Channel deal? That was my first thought, too. They just didn't make a big announcement about it like Gaga, Rihanna, and Madonna did. If she gets another huge boost like that tomorrow I think that will be our answer; if her increases after today become more normal however then I'll just chalk it up to radio PDs simply being anticipatory for a new Katy song. As for this week's Hot 100, I wonder if the Grammy sales spike for SFTTR will put it back at number 1 or if Stronger will hold on. As for next week's Hot 100, I think we may be looking at Adele vs. Katy vs. Adele... lol, as in, SFTTR vs. Part of Me vs. RITD. Will be interesting to watch! The boost for SFTTR was only during the last few hours and was not that much. I would expect Stronger to hold at #1 though it should be close, no doubt. I swear there is some rule written down somewhere that Kelly Clarkson #1's can only stay at the top for 2 weeks.
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Feb 14, 2012 14:01:42 GMT -5
I'm glad they cleared this issue now. BB has to try & stop all this craziness that is going on. We're in a ditigal era & the same rules can't always apply like they did pre ditigial.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 14:14:06 GMT -5
So... re-releases count the same as the original album unless you are going to break a record with it? Or will all re-releases count separately now?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 14:20:06 GMT -5
I read that as each "release" charts separately
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Feb 14, 2012 16:01:41 GMT -5
BB also need to also do something about these last minute remixes.
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Post by badrobot on Feb 14, 2012 16:05:55 GMT -5
BB also need to also do something about the last minute remixes. What would you suggest they do? They have always lumped remixes together with the original song, as long as it is not essentially a different song (a rule forced by J.Lo/Ja Rule's "remixes" that were entirely different songs with the same title as the original). I don't think they need to change anything regarding that. Many (if not most) songs on the chart are getting at least a few points from sales/airplay of remixes. It's just a matter of how much a label has marketed that remix to the mainstream that has made Katy/Britney/Rihanna all stand out.
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Post by josh on Feb 14, 2012 16:13:17 GMT -5
BB also need to also do something about the last minute remixes. What would you suggest they do? They have always lumped remixes together with the original song, as long as it is not essentially a different song (a rule forced by J.Lo/Ja Rule's "remixes" that were entirely different songs with the same title as the original). I don't think they need to change anything regarding that. Many (if not most) songs on the chart are getting at least a few points from sales/airplay of remixes. It's just a matter of how much a label has marketed that remix to the mainstream that has made Katy/Britney/Rihanna all stand out. They also previously stated this, either for the Last Friday Night remix or The One That Got Away remix, stating just about what badrobot said.
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Post by Ragin on Feb 14, 2012 16:58:18 GMT -5
So they're saying that they're going to cop-out and play the semantics game? Cop out? Do you honestly believe that re-releasing the album with a brand new song on it that hasn't been on the album for over a year, is somehow the same thing as the record Thriller has? A cop out would be refusing to address the issue at all.
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Post by allow that on Feb 14, 2012 17:01:32 GMT -5
Do you honestly believe that re-releasing the album with a brand new song on it that hasn't been on the album for over a year, is somehow the same thing as the record Thriller has? Thank you!
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Feb 14, 2012 17:29:42 GMT -5
I hope Katy releases Peacock for the summer, just for the heck of it. Maybe fine-tune it and make it a little more radio friendly. I can see that being a total smash over the summer, and possibly get her the sixth #1 from the original album.
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Post by slamina on Feb 14, 2012 17:30:47 GMT -5
So they're saying that they're going to cop-out and play the semantics game? Cop out? Do you honestly believe that re-releasing the album with a brand new song on it that hasn't been on the album for over a year, is somehow the same thing as the record Thriller has? A cop out would be refusing to address the issue at all. She already has the record that Michael has. The question is whether this rerelease should allow for the breaking of that record. BB has made up their mind on the matter as confusing as it seems. Either way both artists have the record so I don't see it as that big of a deal.
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 14, 2012 17:31:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 17:33:06 GMT -5
Unless it is formally being reissued to radio
It will of course chart big on Hot Digital Songs
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Post by brucelover on Feb 14, 2012 18:08:05 GMT -5
What is going on with "Somebody That I Used to Know"? Pop radio needs to start giving this massive airplay, it's one of THE songs of the moment.
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Post by chartfreak on Feb 14, 2012 18:45:05 GMT -5
Is there a "record" for the amount of backward bullets on the Hot 100. I think with the Grammy's and Katy Perry's arrival, there will be quite a few backward bullets.
I have to say, the charts have not been this interesting in quite some time!
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Feb 14, 2012 18:57:39 GMT -5
I have to say, the charts have not been this interesting in quite some time! I couldn't agree more. I'm getting a little hot and bothered by it, actually I wonder how long it'll take for all this chart activity to calm down
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 19:00:36 GMT -5
Is there a "record" for the amount of backward bullets on the Hot 100. I think with the Grammy's and Katy Perry's arrival, there will be quite a few backward bullets. I have to say, the charts have not been this interesting in quite some time! Bullets are assigned subjectively. In weeks where the greatest gainers move backwards, the biggest of them receive bullets I am sure the criteria varies on where to draw the line
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Post by chartfreak on Feb 14, 2012 19:38:46 GMT -5
^^Good to know! Thanks.
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Post by moore746 on Feb 14, 2012 23:28:24 GMT -5
Considering that I Will Always Love You sold 195,000 copies in one day last week and continued to grow in sales through yesterday, I have to think we are going to see massive single sales this week. That bodes well for Katy getting another #1.
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