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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 14, 2012 17:16:38 GMT -5
Don't forget Billboard's year starts the first week of December. All of her huge sales leading up to Christmas count towards 2012's year-end #1. We *always* use the calendar year for the best selling album of 2012. Never Billboard... When you say We do you mean Pulse? I personally always like to look at both and use both if they differ from one other.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 17:19:55 GMT -5
Don't forget Billboard's year starts the first week of December. All of her huge sales leading up to Christmas count towards 2012's year-end #1. We *always* use the calendar year for the best selling album of 2012. Never Billboard... "Always" is a big term here Billboard Album of the Year has meaning to readers of the magazine Soundscan year is for everyone else Use of Billboard year makes time frames consistent with history prior to the existense of Soundscan.
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Post by Cerbius on Feb 14, 2012 17:25:10 GMT -5
Sales could go as high as 600k next week :o:
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Post by when the pawn... on Feb 14, 2012 17:28:56 GMT -5
This is INSANE, it's been so much fun to watch her run in the last year. 21, "Rolling In The Deep" and "Someone Like You" are/will be absolutely legendary. And I'm not talking about Pulse-diva-hit-legendary. I mean legendary.
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Post by slamina on Feb 14, 2012 17:33:00 GMT -5
Wow! Congrats Adele. :)
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 14, 2012 17:35:42 GMT -5
We *always* use the calendar year for the best selling album of 2012. Never Billboard... When you say We do you mean Pulse? I personally always like to look at both and use both if they differ from one other. The Billboard year end charts in mid-December are useless as of January 1. My opinion. We always go by the SoundScan best seller when we describe what album was the best seller of 1995, 1998, 2002, 2009...
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 14, 2012 17:36:50 GMT -5
This is INSANE, it's been so much fun to watch her run in the last year. 21, "Rolling In The Deep" and "Someone Like You" are/will be absolutely legendary. And I'm not talking about Pulse-diva-hit-legendary. I mean legendary. What makes her any more legendary than Shania or Mariah?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 17:37:57 GMT -5
This is INSANE, it's been so much fun to watch her run in the last year. 21, "Rolling In The Deep" and "Someone Like You" are/will be absolutely legendary. And I'm not talking about Pulse-diva-hit-legendary. I mean legendary. What makes her any more legendary than Shania or Mariah? I don't think he was saying that ???
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 14, 2012 17:39:14 GMT -5
But calling Adele truly "legendary" is insane, really.
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Post by allow that on Feb 14, 2012 17:45:39 GMT -5
But calling Adele truly "legendary" is insane, really. She's defying every odd there is at a time when full albums are seen as outdated by singing throwback songs showcasing great vocals and doing without tricks or gimmicks or other stunts used to manipulate sales, charts, or radio. There is NO WAY that this won't be looked back on as a classic album 20, 30, maybe 50 years from now. It might seem odd calling her legendary because she's by no means a veteran and her album is still so current, but her commercial popularity and critical accolades speak for themselves. You don't see this stuff happening very often.
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Post by when the pawn... on Feb 14, 2012 17:46:21 GMT -5
^^So are her sales, airplay and absolute admiration from the music industry and general public.
The thing about legends is though, that its something that comes with time. 10 million in sales isn't looking like a big stretch at this point, which likely would've equaled 20 million 10-15 years ago, possibly more (we'll see what happens with "Rumor Has It"). The pulse-diva-hit-legendary I was referring to the was the more casual use of the word that lands on a lot of female pop stars that aren't always deserving. I legitimately think this era/album/its big singles will be legendary.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 14, 2012 17:47:26 GMT -5
But calling Adele truly "legendary" is insane, really. She's defying every odd there is at a time when full albums are seen as outdated by singing throwback songs showcasing great vocals and doing without tricks or gimmicks or other stunts used to manipulate sales, charts, or radio. There is NO WAY that this won't be looked back on as a classic album 20, 30, maybe 50 years from now. It might seem odd calling her legendary because she's by no means a veteran and her album is still so current, but her commercial popularity and critical accolades speak for themselves. You don't see this stuff happening very often. So why can't we call Alanis Morissette, Dido, and Duffy legends then? They had mega eras too at one point (with Duffy, I'm using the UK solely).
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Post by GRRR on Feb 14, 2012 17:47:35 GMT -5
Once again, Legendary, it's just so fun watching it all unfold, who would have thought it 2 years ago :'( :'(
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 17:48:13 GMT -5
"Will be legendary" at some point in the future is possible
An album in current release being called "legendary" might be off a bit
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Post by allow that on Feb 14, 2012 17:49:28 GMT -5
I agree. It's not sales alone. Look how much MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice sold. Are they legends?
It's putting out music that connects with people and is timeless. Adele's music sounds current now, could have easily sounded current decades ago, and has no production gimmicks or slang du jour that would make it date poorly. I think we really are looking at music history in the making.
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Post by when the pawn... on Feb 14, 2012 17:53:33 GMT -5
She's defying every odd there is at a time when full albums are seen as outdated by singing throwback songs showcasing great vocals and doing without tricks or gimmicks or other stunts used to manipulate sales, charts, or radio. There is NO WAY that this won't be looked back on as a classic album 20, 30, maybe 50 years from now. It might seem odd calling her legendary because she's by no means a veteran and her album is still so current, but her commercial popularity and critical accolades speak for themselves. You don't see this stuff happening very often. So why can't we call Alanis Morissette, Dido, and Duffy legends then? They had mega eras too at one point (with Duffy, I'm using the UK solely). I didn't call Adele a legend. I said this era/album/RITD/SLY will be. I'd say Jagged Little Pill is. Comparing 21 to albums by Dido and Duffy seems silly to me. I know they had monstrous worldwide sales but I don't think it comes close to the impact of 21, considering its awards, sales, single sales, airplay, endless covers, etc. I can speak most about the U.S. since I live here but no one ever regarded Dido or Duffy in the way people are loving Adele now.
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Post by musik... on Feb 14, 2012 18:04:32 GMT -5
Interested to see where 19 ends up next week. If 21 is looking at close to half a million in sales, a new sales and position peak for 19 looks very likely. I'm still astounded by how an album in the digital era can sell nearly 6.5 million one year and its biggest sales week has yet to come.
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Post by allow that on Feb 14, 2012 18:08:38 GMT -5
It seems like Coldplay may also make a post-Grammys return to the Top 10.
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Post by slw84 on Feb 14, 2012 18:09:38 GMT -5
This is just getting disrespectful now...she owne.d our faves for 51 weeks and on her 52nd week she is just going rob them of their respect. :'( :'( :'(
And this is before my epic Rumour Has it single gets the release that it deserves...I'm not ready....
But I am here for the Diamond certification by 2013 grammy's.
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Post by someguy on Feb 14, 2012 18:14:10 GMT -5
Not that I should be surprised by anything Adele achieves, but 500-600K really does actually surprise me. Great for her though.
I think what sets her success apart from some of the others mentioned is that she is so far away from her competetion in terms of sales and dominance. She is doubling and tripling other very successful artists right now, which I think makes her success even greater.
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Post by pnobelysk on Feb 14, 2012 18:16:10 GMT -5
amazing! if they market, RHI and TT right, 10 million should be doable.
i hope she has a new album by 2014, 5 years seems so long
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Post by Rodze on Feb 14, 2012 18:17:06 GMT -5
Just. Crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 18:17:44 GMT -5
Yay! Very happy for Adele. Next week's chart will be exciting because of all the grammy bumps :)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 18:17:44 GMT -5
In the past 24 hours I've seen Katy Perry referred to as LEGENDERRY and LEGENDPERRY just posts apart. I find it incredibly annoying the way people on here will call anything with a vagina a legend too, but if any current artist deserves that title it's Adele.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 14, 2012 18:18:10 GMT -5
I think what sets her success apart from some of the others mentioned is that she is so far away from her competetion in terms of sales and dominance. She is doubling and tripling other very successful artists right now, which I think makes her success even greater. Are you only saying that because Celine's "Falling Into You" sold as well as "Jagged Little Pill" worldwide? And it looks Adele has joined Meryl Streep territory where you can't say anything critical about her without sounding like a massive douche.
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Post by slw84 on Feb 14, 2012 18:19:21 GMT -5
I wonder if she can score 25 weeks, and top Purple Rain? So exciting to see it competing with such legendary Pop albums. This IS a legendary pop album. 23 weeks seems to be in the bag, but in what would be her 24th week, Bruce Springsteen's got a big release, so we'll see. I think 24 weeks is in the bag - 1 week for Bruce and then Madonna and Nicki will slay back to back...nicki might get it for a second week since easter sales could pad the 50% decline... After that, it should be up for grabs...
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Post by someguy on Feb 14, 2012 18:24:06 GMT -5
I think what sets her success apart from some of the others mentioned is that she is so far away from her competetion in terms of sales and dominance. She is doubling and tripling other very successful artists right now, which I think makes her success even greater. Are you only saying that because Celine's "Falling Into You" sold as well as "Jagged Little Pill" worldwide? Not at all.
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Post by doak on Feb 14, 2012 18:31:52 GMT -5
Sales could go as high as 600k next week :o: I bought the album and '19' on amazon again...just for the hell of it. :) And I see chatoyant is still running around fuming at the success. Stay mad.
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Post by Rodze on Feb 14, 2012 18:35:58 GMT -5
So, when was the last time an album sold 400k outside of December/launch week?
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Post by Rodze on Feb 14, 2012 18:42:51 GMT -5
"launch week"
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