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Post by hidizzyguy on Nov 21, 2012 11:52:24 GMT -5
The album is a lot of fun. I like it.
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Post by charismatic on Nov 21, 2012 13:04:37 GMT -5
Thanks for your comments and info guys! ;)
the album is up to 9 on itunes and the other version is up to 116 its highest peak since day 1. :)
That shows his album has legs and his sales are never front-loaded. But I hope the HDD predictions are true! considering that this album was released without a smash single, I think those numbers are good for him.
However, DSTP is turning into a hit :o, 24 on itunes now :oand that will benefit the album.. Then he needs to release 'feel this moment' and then ' hope we meet again' Let's hope he picks the right singles to make this era longer, and please hire a good director to make creative, positive and familiar videos. The videos of this era have been bad and disappointing. ..
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Post by charismatic on Nov 26, 2012 19:01:51 GMT -5
I bought the edited version at walmart.
HDD -- 16 PITBULL POLO GROUNDS/RCA 36,429
Let's wait for the final numbers tomorrow. :o
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Post by josh on Nov 26, 2012 19:31:16 GMT -5
Edited? Lame. I got the explicit deluxe version.
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Post by bigbluenote on Nov 26, 2012 23:00:02 GMT -5
Edited? Lame. I got the explicit deluxe version. Same here, mainly for the Shakira song. This is as solid as "Planet Pit", IMO. I love, on both albums, all of the collaborations. It makes for a diverse album, which I greatly appreciate. However, some of the lyrics I wish were toned down quite a bit. But oh well, the beats and production are catchy as heck.
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Post by nick64 on Nov 27, 2012 2:17:38 GMT -5
Love it!! This and "Planet Pit" are honestly both flawless! I like that he's not trying to be a complex artist. He's just making fun songs. It's one of the most consistent albums of the year for me, and I can see almost every song on the radio!
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Post by charismatic on Nov 27, 2012 16:29:00 GMT -5
HDD predicted him to sell 35,000 and he exceeded the predictions.. 14 PITBULL POLO GROUNDS/RCA 64,325 -- GLOBAL WARMING
and without a top 10 on radio....
king of club music... :'( :'( :o.
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Post by Surf on Nov 27, 2012 16:41:33 GMT -5
Those sales are really good, he really exceeded expectations.
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Post by charismatic on Nov 27, 2012 20:34:03 GMT -5
Those sales are really good, he really exceeded expectations. Yeah, and the most incredible is that this album outsold Planet Pit's opening week. :o I think 'back in time' did a great job as first single. That grower song made him win fans!!! :'(
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Post by Tea-why on Nov 27, 2012 22:19:44 GMT -5
I've never been a huge fan but I do love "Don't Stop The Barty" and "Back In Time". So good for him.
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Post by charismatic on Nov 29, 2012 22:32:04 GMT -5
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Post by charismatic on Dec 6, 2012 13:26:56 GMT -5
Total sales in the United States 83,000 in 2 weeks. Total sales WW 149,000 in 2 weeks. However, his label needs to reduce the album for this Holiday season. With a discount maybe the album starts increasing again.
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Post by charismatic on Dec 12, 2012 13:42:23 GMT -5
I'm surprised this managed to hold well on its third week. :o
This sold 16,480 records this week according to HDD.(last week it sold 18,800) So, the drop was minimum... With this week sales GW reached the 100,000 K mark in the USA. ;)
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Post by singingsparrow on Dec 17, 2012 22:30:22 GMT -5
charismatic, I'm surprised, of all people, you haven't offered a thorough take on the album's tracks as of yet! ;)
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Here's my thoughts on "Global Warming".
It's a slight step down from "Planet Pit" in terms of consistency, but still pretty close. It definitely bolsters enough radio-worthy selections to sinew Pitbull's place in popular music presently.
What's most notable about this record, to me, is that while the more sexually explicit moments are his most outspoken and raunchy yet..........elsewhere this is also his most tamest record to date. Even "Tchu Tchu Tcha", despite being one of his most sexually explicit tracks, lyrically, to date........is at the same time one of his more softer offerings in terms of production.
Two tracks in particular really stood out to me. They are "Outta Nowhere" and "Drinks For You (Ladies Anthem)". Neither of them strike me as single contenders, but they leap out at me because the former is surprisingly socially-conscious and also channels some of Pitbull's old free-styling fire that he hasn't showcased as much as of late. The latter, meanwhile, is rather understated from a production standpoint and features lyrics that honor all the women in the world who work for a living and care for their families and loved ones: a side of Pitbull that is documented on a personal level, but in his artistry hardly until now.
Beyond that, "Global Warming" is mostly a sequel to "Planet Pit". "Feel This Moment" is easily one of his most uplifting, pop-destined efforts to date, and "Have Some Fun" is destined to be both a big radio hit and club banger staple waiting to happen. The latter will effectively get Pitbull's edgier side back in public consciousness after a string of singles where he expressed lyrical restraint from sexually explicit content.
"Last Night" is also a standout to me with its house-flavored, can't-fight-the-moonlight appeal. Not surprisingly, it is also an Afrojack-assisted offering like "Have Some Fun" but, unlike "Have Some Fun", it is a tamer cut that is decidedly driven on a "seize the night" theme.
Not all the tracks have resonated with me yet. I can't seem to get into "Hope We Meet Again". And "Party Ain't Over", despite being an Afrojack-assisted affair, has an awkward beat I can't seem to wrap my head around.
All in all, however, "Global Warming" should follow closely enough to "Planet Pit" in terms of commercial returns, and I expect Pitbull to get several big hits this cycle: the biggest of which will be "Feel This Moment".
Here's how I would release the singles:
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1: "Get It Started" (No, "Back In Time" was NOT this album's lead single. It was simply tacked onto this album after it did rather well in supporting the film "Men In Black III" before failing to make the official soundtrack. THIS was the true lead single...........and it flopped hard! ;) ).
2: "Don't Stop The Party"
3: "Feel This Moment" (A no-brainer here. This should have no problem becoming at least his third-highest Billboard Hot 100 peaking single to date, falling only below "Give Me Everything" and "I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho)". )
4: "Have Some Fun" (Pitbull needs to turn up the heat and edge after a string of decidedly tamer affairs. This will quite likely be another large hit for him, and I dare predict another Top Ten here.)
5: "Hope We Meet Again' (Like I said, I haven't really got into this song yet. But, it has Chris Brown, right? ;) )
6: "Last Night (Never Happened)" (End the album cycle with something that is more ambient but certainly not deficit of the seize-the-night sizzle. It will receive moderate play, but will be more popular in house music setlists rather than radio playlists)
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Post by charismatic on Dec 18, 2012 21:20:36 GMT -5
Thanks for your review Lisping. I really loved reading your post! ;)And yes! I posted a brief review before: pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=artistkz&action=display&thread=115050&page=1 To be honest Lisping, I don't like the songs produced by Afrojack this time, they are too electronic and noisy to my taste..Plus I don't like the lyrics of those songs. I don't like his song with Enrique either. I hope it's not a single.. :( But his song with Jlo is one of my favorites but it doesn't sound like a single. Also, his song with Chris Brown is a grower, I didn't like it at first, but growers songs work for Pitbull! Also, I see potential with 'everybody ft Akon.' what do you think about that?? if they edited the title and the song I think it could be a smash. To me, the next singles should be: 1. feel this moment ----Love it from the first time, the smash of the album!! 2. outta nowhere (send a club version to pop radio)Pit needs something fresh and catchy. 3. Finish the era with a clean version of 'Everybody ft Akon'
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Post by charismatic on Dec 22, 2012 16:07:30 GMT -5
First sales increase!!! US album sales: @pitbull, Global Warming 17,005 (115,879 total) from 16,400 to 17,005 ;)
No matter if billboard and the grammys keep ignoring him, his talent speaks for itself!!! :'( :)
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Post by singingsparrow on Dec 23, 2012 21:20:29 GMT -5
Thanks for your review Lisping. I really loved reading your post! ;)And yes! I posted a brief review before: pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=artistkz&action=display&thread=115050&page=1 To be honest Lisping, I don't like the songs produced by Afrojack this time, they are too electronic and noisy to my taste..Plus I don't like the lyrics of those songs. I don't like his song with Enrique either. I hope it's not a single.. :( But his song with Jlo is one of my favorites but it doesn't sound like a single. Also, his song with Chris Brown is a grower, I didn't like it at first, but growers songs work for Pitbull! Also, I see potential with 'everybody ft Akon.' what do you think about that?? if they edited the title and the song I think it could be a smash. To me, the next singles should be: 1. feel this moment ----Love it from the first time, the smash of the album!! 2. outta nowhere (send a club version to pop radio)Pit needs something fresh and catchy. 3. Finish the era with a clean version of 'Everybody ft Akon' Afrojack did produce his biggest hit to date ("Give Me Everything"), mind you! ;) * I know you're probably singling it out for the lyrical content, but I'm sure you'd have to admit "Have Some Fun" sounds like a leading single contender! Among most everyone I know who has listened to the album thus far, the line about his bilingual tongue is the single most memorable line of any lyric on the album! And memorable lyrics help sell singles! ;) I suppose I can see why you think "Hope We Meet Again" is a grower. It's definitely uplifting, and the lyrics attempt an emotional payoff with Pitbull mentioning his family at the end of the second verse and toward the edge shouting over Chris Brown's chorus how he hopes to meet friends and family members again soon. Yet..........I haven't really gotten into it yet because Brown's offering sounds at least semi-melancholy, so it sounds like more of a downer track than a dance song, and given "Feel This Moment" is also rather tame by Pitbull's standards, it would HAVE to be the fifth single if it is going to impact well enough. There needs to be something with more edge and attitude between the two, which I see "Have Some Fun" satisfying quite well. "Outta Nowhere" is one of my personal favorites on this album, but I fiercely disagree with you on it being a single. And you do realize it would take more than editing out the F-word to make "Everybody..." clean for radio, right? ;) Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton
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Post by charismatic on Dec 24, 2012 2:06:05 GMT -5
Yes Lisping,'have some fun has a good beat, but the lyrics are too explicit. These type of lyrics don't sell albums. Plus, it doesn't sound like his song (It's more like a song suited to The wanted and Afrojack's styles.)
Why do you think get it started flopped as a single, but don't stop the party' didn't ?? In my opinion is because he shines more when he sings on songs suited to his style, but when he abandons his genre and sings on electronic songs like GIS, or hSf, his fans can't connect. And yeah maybe' outta no where' could flop because it's not upbeat, and people would say he is copying Eminem or BOB, but what if he sends a club version to the radio?? Another interesting fact: The songs that sold the best on itunes when his album came out were: last night, Everybody, FTM, Hope we meet again. :o As you can see 'have some fun' didn't sell well on iTunes!
But' it's interesting to see that 'everybody' was the second most popular of the album..So, I'm hoping Pitbull had made a clean version called ''everybody loves', that song could be massive! Hopefully, they can pick the right singles. They need to test them and figure out which songs are the most appealing, so more people can be more convinced to buy his album. :)
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Post by singingsparrow on Dec 26, 2012 18:36:23 GMT -5
Yes Lisping,'have some fun has a good beat, but the lyrics are too explicit. These type of lyrics don't sell albums. Plus, it doesn't sound like his song (It's more like a song suited to The wanted and Afrojack's styles.)
Why do you think get it started flopped as a single, but don't stop the party' didn't ?? In my opinion is because he shines more when he sings on songs suited to his style, but when he abandons his genre and sings on electronic songs like GIS, or hSf, his fans can't connect. And yeah maybe' outta no where' could flop because it's not upbeat, and people would say he is copying Eminem or BOB, but what if he sends a club version to the radio?? Another interesting fact: The songs that sold the best on itunes when his album came out were: last night, Everybody, FTM, Hope we meet again. :o As you can see 'have some fun' didn't sell well on iTunes!
But' it's interesting to see that 'everybody' was the second most popular of the album..So, I'm hoping Pitbull had made a clean version called ''everybody loves', that song could be massive! Hopefully, they can pick the right singles. They need to test them and figure out which songs are the most appealing, so more people can be more convinced to buy his album. :) With all due respect, this is where we're going to disagree significantly. Pitbull's breakout hit was 2009's "I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho)". While not among his utmost sexually explicit offerings to date lyrically, there's still a reference to a blowjob in the first verse while in a car, and more sexual content in the entire second verse. You can argue that it was particularly appealing because it was true to Pitbull's eclectic gift of melody and sampling unique tracks like "Street Fighter" from Chicago..........but it is clear the raunchy lyrics did nothing to stop the video (which, itself, was highly suggestive) from garnering over 200 million views on YouTube and becoming his first massive hit all across the world. That was directly followed by "Hotel Room Service". The lyrics in this song are even more sexually explicit than his breakout hit. I shouldn't even have to quote them in this thread because they're SO obviously raunchy beyond compare. Yet, the lyrical content didn't stop the track from becoming his second-consecutive Top Ten hit in many countries worldwide and go Platinum here. You're arguing these "type of lyrics don't sell albums." That can at least be debated since, after all, Pitbull has never been much of an album-seller with only two RIAA certifications to date. But one thing IS clear: Pitbull wouldn't be where he is today if not for his admirable dedication to his style for nearly a decade now, even when it wasn't producing many returns for him commercially earlier on...........and much of that has to do with his impressionable, tell-it-like-it-is machismo: both in how he sells himself and his rags-to-riches story, as well as his sexual adventures. * Secondly, you argue that "Get It Started" flopped because it was an electronic song, while he flourishes on songs that suit his style. Why do you think most of his singles preceding "I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho)" flopped, then? After all, they relied much less on electronics and were decidedly more styled in a fusion of Southern hip-hop, crunk, reggaeton, cumbia and other sounds that permeated the melting pot of the Miami Beach scene. It's great he stuck with his guns, and I highly respect him for it, but.............the record shows his earlier career singles nonetheless failed to gain commercial traction. I attribute it more to the fact that dance music just wasn't "in" at that time than anything, and also because he was signed to a label that mismanaged him.............but he DID adhere to his style and it didn't do him many favors commercially, and even the record label mismanagement excuse doesn't entirely hold up because listeners WILL like what they hear and eke out favorites regardless. On that same note, with regards to his "suited to his style"/"electronic songs" dichotomy............then what is up with "Give Me Everything" and "International Love" becoming hits then? Even his current single ("Don't Stop The Party"), as eclectic as the sampling is, was nonetheless mixed by a Dutch electronic music artist! ;) * Thirdly...........why, exactly, do you think "Everybody....." happened to drum up such instantly gratifying interest out of the gate, despite being a bonus track? Uh Huh! Goes right back to my first point, doesn't it! ;) Beyond that, I feel it is misguiding to put too much stock into how album tracks rate up when albums are released to the public. Unless there is an obvious chasm of popularity between one album cut and another (i.e. one track impacts the Top Ten while every other album track misses the Top Fifty altogether)..........then in actuality it says little about the actual popularity of the tracks among a broad listening populace. That's where your ultimate point, with regards to actually testing singles before releasing them, is of pivotal importance. Which is where, of course, we both agree for sure. :) * Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2012 23:21:11 GMT -5
No matter if billboard and the grammys keep ignoring him, his talent speaks for itself!!! :'( :) ;) PitGOD.
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Post by charismatic on Dec 27, 2012 12:19:46 GMT -5
In first place Lisping, since Pitbull started releasing clean singles to radio, he has become a better album seller.
Second, 'i know you want me and HRS were massive, but they didn't do anything for rebullution'..(Again these type of lyrics don't sell albums). (I know you want me' is not that explicit though, and there's nothing wrong with the video). * Also if you notice, the least explicit of the 2 prevailed in the long run. I know you want me' was the most successful on the radio and it's the most remembered of the 2. ;) I think Pit understood that in order to appeal to a bigger audience,he needs to release the least raunchy singles to radio.That's why he released the least explicit singles from pp, and he also did the same with gw. Get it started, DSTP, FTM, BIT.. On using electronic: his music has always been a fusion of different rhythms and beats. I can hear the Latin/urban/house beats in songs like DSTP, the same with HRS,GME etc, they are a fusion of hip hop with techno/electronic/pop; however, GIS or HSF are more electronic. Maybe that's why they don't suit him cause they were produced for other people in mind. Did you know that last night was produced for Paris Hilton?. It's obvious that Pit didn't put his touch. I can tell when Pitbull is part of the production: In 'feel this moment', you can tell he put his urban touch, also in back in time' DSTP, GME, IL, HB, but in the Afrojack's songs from GW, it's obvious that he only added the lyrics. Maybe that's why the 3 songs sound the same. The beats have quality, but there's nothing unique or fresh with these 3 songs.
;)On everybody, i think it's popular cause of the beautiful melody/beat, to me, 'everybody' is the most instant and catchy from the record! I like the melody, flow and arrangement of this song! ;)
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Post by singingsparrow on Dec 27, 2012 17:38:21 GMT -5
In first place Lisping, since Pitbull started releasing clean singles to radio, he has become a better album seller. "M.I.A.M.I." is still his best-selling album stateside (and only album other than "Planet Pit" to obtain an RIAA certification)..........and that contains no shortage of sexually explicit material ("She's Freaky", "Toma", "Shake It Up" and "I Wonder" being the most obvious examples) ;) Second, 'i know you want me and HRS were massive, but they didn't do anything for rebullution'..(Again these type of lyrics don't sell albums). (I know you want me' is not that explicit though, and there's nothing wrong with the video). We're in agreement that "Rebelution" failed to sell. So why is it then that a track that had decidedly no sexually explicit content in it, "Shut It Down", flopped in a way its two racier predecessors did not? ;) Like I said, "I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho)" is not among his most explicit offerings to date, but there's still oral sex in the first verse and sexual references all across the second verse! And you should read all the comments on the YouTube comments feature to its video! Many consider it flat-out porn! ;) * Also if you notice, the least explicit of the 2 prevailed in the long run. I know you want me' was the most successful on the radio and it's the most remembered of the 2. ;) Yup. Still doesn't diminish the fact that it contains sexually explicit content, and succeeded enormously anyway! ;) I think Pit understood that in order to appeal to a bigger audience,he needs to release the least raunchy singles to radio.That's why he released the least explicit singles from pp, and he also did the same with gw. Get it started, DSTP, FTM, BIT.. "Rain On Me" features a reference to a threesome in its entire bridge, as does "International Love" with the line "Pit, you can have me and my sister!" lyric! Neither are quite as "out there" as "Come N Go", but still............ ;) Also, "Get It Started" flopped, despite being arguably his tamest offering to date released thus far! And even if the generally tame "Feel This Moment" presumably hits big, even here Pitbull slyly inserts a reference to the erotic bestseller "Fifty Shades of Gray" in the lyrics of the second verse! ;) On using electronic: his music has always been a fusion of different rhythms and beats. I can hear the Latin/urban/house beats in songs like DSTP, the same with HRS,GME etc, they are a fusion of hip hop with techno/electronic/pop; however, GIS or HSF are more electronic. Maybe that's why they don't suit him cause they were produced for other people in mind. Did you know that last night was produced for Paris Hilton?. But you can't abjectly deny that they are highly influenced by electronic music all the same. The crescendo of a beat in the "They can't, they won't, they never will stop the party!" part of his current single is quite loud and electronically-driven, for instance. I like his material that is influenced by world music more than his strictly-electronic offerings myself, overall. They are more interesting and diverse. But the facts don't lie. "Give Me Everything" was an Afrojack-helmed effort. "Hey Baby (Drop It To The Floor)" is drenched with Auto-Tune and electronic effects. "International Love" is dominated by heavy electronic effects and Auto-Tune despite having that Rhythmic influence. Didn't stop any of them from becoming hits. It's obvious that Pit didn't put his touch.
I can tell when Pitbull is part of the production: In 'feel this moment', you can tell he put his urban touch, also in back in time' DSTP, GME, IL, HB, but in the Afrojack's songs from GW, it's obvious that he only added the lyrics. Maybe that's why the 3 songs sound the same. The beats have quality, but there's nothing unique or fresh with these 3 songs.
Interesting you mention that. I appreciate your take here, but I can't agree necessarily. I'm pretty sure virtually all of the material is pre-arranged and recorded in advance, and then it is serviced to Pitbull, where he then offers his initial take on the matter and will either approve of material to work with, or otherwise ask to tinker around with something to make it sound more like himself and what he does. I recall an interview with Pitbull where he was talking about "International Love", for instance. He said when he initially heard the song, he was ready to reject it because it was "too poppy". However, when executives urged him to give it a chance or to put more of his own stamp on it, he decided to and ultimately felt satisfied with his efforts. The point, however, is that Pitbull's role is generally limited to vocals and lyrics. He is rarely involved in the production of his records and interviews suggest he rarely shares a recording booth with his chief collaborators. His choice of producers compose the beats and production schemes in advance, perhaps a chorus, and then it is shipped to Pitbull where he then adds his verses, introductions and signature interjections. That said, I do agree that some of his efforts tend to become more "his own" compared to others. But he doesn't most directly engage with his producers, at least in the studio. And with all due respect, I disagree with you on "Give Me Everything", "Feel This Moment" and "Back In Time" sounding Urban at all. He deliberately slackens his rap delivery in "Feel This Moment" to sound more appealing to pop audiences, and the production in "Give Me Everything" and "Back In Time" is decidedly anti-Urban. Rhythmic, perhaps, but not Urban. And "Back In Time" especially did little on either those formats as is! ;) ;)On everybody, i think it's popular cause of the beautiful melody/beat, to me, 'everybody' is the most instant and catchy from the record! I like the melody, flow and arrangement of this song! ;) I agree that it is a rather melodic record. Still, you've got to swallow your pride and admit that it was primarily the song's title that caught the attention of listeners. Just like the title of Enrique Iglesias's "Tonight (I'm F***in' You)" caught the attention of countless listeners when it was announced as the follow-up single to his and Pitbull's hit "I Like It", despite being available only as a bonus track off of the French edition of the album at the time. Many saw the title, their dirty curiosity flared up, and then they downloaded and listened to the track en masse and, eventually, it became a hit. I know it got a "Tonight (I'm Lovin' You)" radio edit shortly after being released digitally, but come on now..........we both know that it would never have gotten as much attention as it did if not for the original title and its shock value! Same with "Everybody F***s"! ;) Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton
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Post by charismatic on Dec 27, 2012 19:02:47 GMT -5
I disagree in some points. ;)Pit is more involved in the production of his music more than we think Lisping.. Pit is credited as executive producer of Planet Pit and GW. * Pit also said in an interview that he asked his DJ to add dub-step and other arrangements to make back in time better. He also gets credit for producing and arranging 'pause' and shake señora, 2 of the most popular non single tracks from PP. And yeah he also added his urban touch to 'international love' because it was too pop for his style. Without Pitbull's suggestions and rhythmic touch 'give me everything' would have been another electronic song a la Afrojack, but Pit made it his own..
So, let's not forget that Pit is songwriter and producer too. He even stated in interviews that Lil John taught him to produce music.... ;) And don't get me wrong, I love electronic music, but I don't think HSF has potential..Not even on spotify is doing well, that says a lot.. And well, everybody is not that dirty, the f is the only explicit part it has. Plus the beat sounds good on the first listen. on ROM: Well, you know it under performed in the US, maybe the fans didn't connect with the lyrics. With more appealing lyrics it would have done better with the teens, because the beat is sick.. And GIS flopped because it was a weak generic production.Not even Shakira could save it...Att: Charismatic. :)
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Post by singingsparrow on Dec 27, 2012 19:44:01 GMT -5
I understand your point, but I disagree in some points. Pit gets credit as executive producer of Planet Pit and GW. Pit also said in an interview that he asked his DJ to add dub-step and other arrangements for 'back in time,' to make it better. "Producer" and "Executive Producer" are hardly the same thing, despite the same word surfacing in each of the titles. The chief difference between the two terms boils down to involvement, or detachment, from the technical components in the making of any given work. "Executive producer" has become such an ambiguous, discombobulated term, really, but my interpretation is that, when you're an executive producer, you are NOT directly behind the soundboard. However, you are still playing an important role in the creation of any given work or creative process by calling the shots to your collaborators and asking for what you want specifically and having the final say as to whether a given work will cut it or not upon completion. I suppose a more simpler way to state this is that executive producers are more involved in the business side of musical production, while producers are more involved in the hands-on creative side of musical production. And your latter point about Pitbull asking his DJ to incorporate dubstep into "Back In Time" underscores that. He also gets credit for producing and arranging 'pause' and shake señora, 2 of the most sold non single tracks from PP.
So Pit is more involved in the production of his music more than you think Lisping..And yeah he also added his urban touch to international love because it was too pop.Without Pitbull's rhythmic touch 'give me everything' would have been another electronic song a la Afrojack, but Pit made it his own..
I never said that he was never involved in it. I stated that he is rarely involved in the production of his music (that is the hands-on, behind-the-soundboard aspect of production, not the calling the business shots side of it.) And I don't understand where your claims that he co-produced those two tracks from "Planet Pit" are sourced. DJ Snake and Clinton Sparks produced "Shake Senora", while DJ Buddha and three others produced "Pause". He also has zero production credits on "Global Warming". It's largely dominated by Afrojack and DJ Buddha, with Danny Mercer having a notable leading role on a couple of tracks. (No RedOne?!!! :o ) Pitbull still deserves credit where credit is due, for sure, in taking business decisions behind his music into his own hands largely and steering the direction of a lot of his output. That does NOT make him a producer, though! ;) He even stated in interviews that Lil John taught him to produce music.... ;) I believe you. I'd like to see Pitbull employ the skills he inherited from Lil Jon a little more often! ;) And don't get me wrong, I love electronic music, but I don't think HSF has potential..Not even on spotify is doing well, that says a lot.. I've never listened to Spotify, so I suppose that says a lot about me! ;) And well, everybody is not that dirty, the f is the only explicit part it has. Plus the beat sounds good on the first listen. Merely dubbing over all of the mentions of the F-word is not goig to cut it. When you read the lyrics on paper, the song is, more than anything, about rejecting traditional relationship standards and norms, including the idea that you can't have sex on a first date or that all relationships have to bound by commitments or vows. It's specifically endorsing the idea that one-night stands are a natural experience and that, anytime you meet someone one night at a club or the like and your bodies both say "Yes!", then say no more, have sex. Editing the title to "Everybody loves!", along with the countless mentions of it throughout the song, will only make the record sound incredibly awkward. It won't make sense at all! :o on ROM: Well, you know it under performed in the US, maybe the fans didn't connect with the lyrics. With more appealing lyrics it would have done better with the teens, because the beat is sick.. It's true it underperformed here, but it was a massive hit across most the rest of the world. I admit I still am puzzled as to why 'Rain Over Me" didn't do that well here in the first place. I know you would probably argue the sexual content scared listeners away, but that doesn't hold up in my view because, after all, its successor ("International Love") also boasted of a threesome in Romania! ;) My theory is that "Rain Over Me" was crushed by what I like to call "musical event syndrome".........where after an artist scores a hit that sounds like a cinematic event of sorts, its successor is inevitably crushed by the sky-high expectations the hit saddles upon it. Then, by the time "Rain Over Me" was crushed by expectation, "International Love" nonetheless succeeded because by that time, "Give Me Everything" had more officially drifted off into Recurrentland. And GIS flopped because it was a weak generic production.Not even Shakira could save it... Yup! No disagreement there! ;) Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton
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Post by charismatic on Dec 27, 2012 20:17:45 GMT -5
Good news: The album had another increase in sales.. It sold between 17,000-20,000K :o
Lisping, I have the PP/GW bootlegs with me: Here's the source: Shake senora: (Armando C perez, Clinton Sparks/TPain etc...) produced by Clinton Sparks Arranged by Pitbull and DJ Buddha
Pitbull also arranged 'pause' and he also gets credit for songwriting. He is credited first in all the songs from his records.
And yeah, when Pit retires from music, I see him producing for others. ;)
P.S You're right on 'everybody' that song is still suggestive :( the beat is fire though.
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Post by singingsparrow on Dec 27, 2012 23:14:45 GMT -5
Good news: The album had another increase in sales.. It sold between 17,000-20,000K :oLisping, I have the PP/GW bootlegs with me: Here's the source: Shake senora: (Armando C perez, Clinton Sparks/TPain etc...) produced by Clinton Sparks Arranged by Pitbull and DJ Buddha Pitbull also arranged 'pause' and he also gets credit for songwriting. He is credited first in all the songs from his records.And yeah, when Pit retires from music, I see him producing for others. ;) P.S You're right on 'everybody' that song is still suggestive :( the beat is fire though. Fair enough. I didn't see Pitbull featured in the production credits for either song, but I believe you. * It's indeed a possibility that Pitbull will produce more often down the line. RedFoo of LMFAO has been producing a small handful of records as of late including Carly Rae Jepsen's failed single "This Kiss". I think Pitbull's main passion will remain his business and sponsorship pursuits and contracts, but it is certainly a reasonable theory. * The point on "Everybody....." is that it doesn't matter how minimally edited, or edited to death, it gets. Listeners will either notice it or not, and decide if they like it or not. And the main reason it got a lot of attention out of the gate, despite being a bonus track, is because of the shock value in its title. Much like with the explosion of F-word titled songs in 2011 including Pink's "F***in' Perfect", Cee Lo Green's "F*** You" and Enrique Iglesias's aforementioned hit. Like it or not, much of what makes Pitbull, Pitbull, is him telling it as it is regardless of what others may think, with the fearlessness of the much-taboo dog breed that his name reflects. Sexual themes remain one of the most taboo topics, certainly, and Pitbull lives up to his name by mentioning them, among other things. Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton
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Post by charismatic on Jan 4, 2013 16:14:37 GMT -5
Correct album sales! According to billboard this sold 21,111 last week! :)
And this week sales= 14,531
Total sales to date in the USA: = 151,531k :)
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Post by charismatic on Jan 8, 2013 17:11:03 GMT -5
Another increase in sales: 33 PITBULL POLO GROUNDS/RCA 16,913Total sales: 168,444 in the US.Since DSTP is getting the top 10 exposure on itunes, his album is also increasing there!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 6:12:52 GMT -5
Tchu Tchu Tcha has to be the most annoying song I've ever heard.
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