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Post by Cautionme11/16 on Feb 10, 2013 10:06:25 GMT -5
That's insane only 7 categories will be presented on camera on a 3 hour telecast.
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Post by maladroit on Feb 10, 2013 10:09:22 GMT -5
So based on that telecast schedule, these are the award winners I predict will be televised:
Kelly Clarkson - Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) Fun. - Some Nights Frank Ocean - Channel Orange Jay-Z and Kanye West ft. Frank Ocean, The-Dream - No Church in the Wild Zac Brown Band - Uncaged Carrie Underwood - Blown Away The Black Keys - Lonely Boy
Gotye ft. Kimbra - Somebody That I Used to Know Fun. ft. Janelle Monae - We Are Young Frank Ocean Mumford & Sons - Babel
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Post by maladroit on Feb 10, 2013 10:13:54 GMT -5
That's insane only 7 categories will be presented on camera on a 3 hour telecast. You're forgetting about the four general field awards. 11 still isn't a lot, but the Grammy spectacle has always been more about the performances than the awards themselves.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 10, 2013 10:19:24 GMT -5
I hope Gotye shows up to the award shows. It'd be a bit weird if only Kimbra showed up to the stage if "Somebody That I Used To Know" wins Record Of The Year.
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Post by Joe1240 on Feb 10, 2013 11:10:44 GMT -5
popwatch.ew.com/2013/02/10/grammys-2013-predictions/Now that the 55th Annual Grammy Awards are hours instead of days away, here are a few last-minute tidbits and predictionsβ¦ * Who will open the show? Taylor Swift will open the show and sheβll be singing βWe Are Never Ever Getting Together,β which is nominated for record of the year. There was a lot of debate about the coveted show-opening spot this year. Justin Timberlake, a favorite of Grammys executive producer Ken Ehrlich, almost usurped the spot in recent weeks, but Swiftβs popularity and the less-than-torrid public response to the new Timberlake music tilted the decision back toward the 23-year-old country-pop singer, who was notified about a week ago that she would be the first voice of the night. * Album of the year β a tie? Well, no. But it feels like the most knotted album race in years because thereβs no hip hop. Iβd guess that it comes down to Mumford & Sons and the Black Keys who have bright lines connecting to their respective (and respected) music heritages but with fresh tintings and growing audiences. If youβre looking for the deciding factor, go with an actβs reputation for instrumental prowess β and that puts the trophy on an international flight back home with Mumford & Sons. Donβt for a minute underestimate the importance of craft (or, to be slightly cynical, the reputation for craft) with academy voters. The rudder of the Academy vote is the mindset of musicians, players who play instruments, and their tastes and talents are varied. They place a value on craft that goes far beyond music fans, bloggers, critics/pundits. Thatβs why Kanye West and Eminem get snubbed again and again. Session musicians, singer-songwriters, country pickers, blues producers, jazz veterans that can easily accept each other as musicans will have a harder time viewing rappers as peers. Consider a sampling of the acts that have picked up album of the year wins since 2000: Herbie Hancock, the Dixie Chicks, the soundtrack to O Brother Where Art Thou, U2, Santana, Steely Dan, Ray Charles, Arcade Fire, Norah Jones, Arcade Fire, Robert Plant and Alison Krauss. They veer across genre, they vary in commercial success, and they are all over the places as far as hipness quotient. But all of them can play. * History isnβt sealed up in envelopes. Thereβs plenty of intrigue this year with no dominant front runner as far as the overall trophy race. But not all of the winners and losers at the Grammys are determined by the names in the envelopes. The performances and the speeches are the things that echo for years to come. People are still talking about the nutty Soy Bomb incident from 1998, but does anybody remember what won record and song of the year that same night? (It was Shawn Colvinβs βSunny Came Home.β) Likewise, music fans remember the name of the song that Eminem and Elton John did on the 2001 show β it was βStanβ β but how many can name the Steely Dan collection that won album of the year? (It was Two Against Nature.) * Meet the new bossβ¦Zac Brown?: The tribute to Levon Helm was an especially evocative moment during rehearsals with Elton John, Mumford and Sons, the Zac Brown Band, Mavis Staples, and Brittany Howard of Alabama Shakes pulling every bit of elegiac emotion possible out of βThe Weight.β Still, Grammy producers probably will think about βthe one that got awayβ for a while. At one point, Bruce Springsteen, Eddie Vedder, and Neil Young were on the list of potential performers for the number, but Vedder bowed out due to a personal matter, and Springsteen (honored at Friday nightβs MusicCares dinner) was probably a lot less likely to stick around in town for the Grammys after he was snubbed in the marquee categories. * Itβs life after death (if time permits): CBS Executive Vice President Jack Sussman was at rehearsals on Saturday and watching the In Memorium section when he noticed a photograph of a living human being β or, to be more precise, a music industry executive β included in the on-screen photographs of the recently deceased. After considerable discussion, it was decided that the collage potraying the living exec would be reworked. Ehrlich deadpanned: βWeβll change it and take the photo out β unless itβs easier just to take this guy out.β The photo was simply excised, of course.
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Post by kingofpain on Feb 10, 2013 12:32:18 GMT -5
I don't know why people keep referencing the Steely Dan wins... I thought it was well deserved and I have loved their music over the years. Of course I remember Two Against Nature. Eminem and his supporters need to get over his "loss", he's not well respected in the music community or otherwise he would have won. He's an angry hateful homophobic and misogynistic piece of shit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 12:47:27 GMT -5
That's insane only 7 categories will be presented on camera on a 3 hour telecast. That's one of the reasons I stopped watching. There's nothing fun or exciting about sitting through a bunch of performances by acts I don't care about or even like to see 2 or 3 performers I want to see and a small handful of awards given out.
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Post by DJ General on Feb 10, 2013 12:51:37 GMT -5
That's insane only 7 categories will be presented on camera on a 3 hour telecast. It's actually 11 awards in 3.5 hours. The telecast is 8-1130pm. :) Does anyone have the final telecast list? link on last page is broke and Where is the list for the Pre-show they release each year with all the stuff for the 4pm pre online show?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 13:04:47 GMT -5
I suppose now is as good a time as any to post my uneducated guesses. Listed in order of who I think is most likely to win (if two people have the same number I think they have equal odds of [not] winning).
Record of the Year
1. Kelly Clarkson, "Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)" 1. fun. feat. Janelle Monae, "We Are Young" 3. Gotye feat. Kimbra, "Somebody That I Used to Know" 4. Taylor Swift, "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" 5. Frank Ocean, "Thinkin Bout You" 6. The Black Keys, "Lonely Boy"
Thoughts: originally figured fun. had this locked up, but Kelly has had a buzz lately that is undeniable. I think it's neck and neck now.
Album of the Year
1. fun., Some Nights 2. Frank Ocean, channel ORANGE 3. Mumford and Sons, Babel 4. The Black Keys, El Camino 5. Jack White, Blunderbuss
Thoughts: Black Keys and Jack White will split the rock vote. Mumford is technically 'Americana' but will probably also be negatively affected by rock voters being divided. fun. will have pop voters and probably a few rock/alternative ones so I give them the slight edge, but Frank still has good chances here.
Song of the Year
1. fun. feat. Janelle Monae, "We Are Young" 2. Kelly Clarkson, "Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)" 3. Miguel, "Adorn" 4. Ed Sheeran, "The A Team" 5. Carly Rae Jepsen, "Call Me Maybe"
Best New Artist
1. Frank Ocean 2. fun. 3. Hunter Hayes 4. The Lumineers 4. Alabama Shakes
Thoughts: I don't think the other acts will have enough support behind them to steal a win here even if Frank and fun. are a close, vote splitting battle. This is the inverse of the AOTY category for me; I think here is where Frank will have the slight edge.
Best Pop Solo Performance
1. Kelly Clarkson, "Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)" 2. Adele, "Set Fire to the Rain" (Live) 3. Carly Rae Jepsen, "Call Me Maybe" 4. Katy Perry, "Wide Awake" 4. Rihanna, "Where Have You Been"
Best Pop Duo/Group Performance
1. fun. feat. Janelle Monae, "We Are Young" 2. Gotye feat. Kimbra, "Somebody That I Used to Know" 3. Florence + the Machine, "Shake It Out" 4. Maroon 5 feat. Wiz Khalifa, "Payphone 5. LMFAO, "Sexy and I Know It"
Best Pop Vocal Album
1. fun., Some Nights 2. Kelly Clarkson, Stronger 3. Florence + the Machine, Ceremonials 4. Maroon 5, Overexposed 5. P!nk, The Truth About Love
Best Dance Recording
1. Calvin Harris feat. Ne-Yo, "Let's Go" 2. Swedish House Mafia feat. John Martin, "Don't You Worry Child" 3. Avicii, "Levels" 4. Skrillex feat. Sirah, "Bangarang" 5. Al Walser, "I Can't Live Without You"
thoughts: I'm blindly guessing here, admittedly.
Best Rock Performance
1. The Black Keys, "Lonely Boy" 2. Mumford and Sons, "I Will Wait" 3. Alabama Shakes, "Hold On" 4. Bruce Springsteen, "We Take Care of Our Own" 5. Coldplay, "Charlie Brown"
Best R&B Performance
1. Miguel, "Adorn" 2. Usher, "Climax" 3. Estelle, "Thank You" 4. Robert Glasper feat. Ledisi, "Gonna Be Alright (F.T.B.)" 5. Luke James, "I Want You"
Best Traditional R&B Performance
1. Anita Baker, "Lately" 2. Beyonce, "Love On Top" 3. Melanie Fiona, "Wrong Side of a Love Song" 4. SWV, "If Only You Knew" 5. Gregory Porter, "Real Good Hands"
thoughts: Normally Beyonce would be the runaway favorite, but after 4 was basically neglected last year I'm not so sure anymore. I'll give the edge to Anita, who was a Grammy darling herself back in the day and is the veteran of the group.
Best R&B Song
1. Miguel, "Adorn" 2. Anthony Hamilton, "Pray For Me" 3. Tamia, "Beautiful Surprise" 4. Elle Varner, "Refill" 5. Trey Songz, "Heart Attack"
Best Urban Contemporary Album
1. Frank Ocean, channel ORANGE 1. Miguel, Kaleidoscope Dream 3. Chris Brown, Fortune
Thoughts: in theory this should be Frank's, since he's the AOTY nominee. But Miguel's is the more 'classic r&b' album and I wouldn't be surprised if the r&b voters go with him here. I give them equal chance.
Best R&B Album
1. Anthony Hamilton, Back to Love 2. Tamia, Beautiful Surprise 3. R Kelly, Write Me Back 4. Robert Glasper Experiment, Black Radio 5. Tyrese, Open Invitation
Best Rap Performance
1. Drake feat. Lil Wayne, "HYFR" 1. Jay-Z & Kanye West, "N's in Paris" 3. Nas, "Daughters" 4. Kanye West feat. Big Sean, Pusha T, and 2 Chainz, "Mercy" 5. Young Jeezy feat. Jay-Z & Andre 3000, "I Do"
Thoughts: normally potential vote-splitting isn't a threat for Jay or Kanye, but I think this is the one year where it might happen for a couple of reasons: one, just enough voters may be a bit gunshy about awarning a song with the n-word in the title that NIP doesn't win; and two, "Mercy" was a big hit and I can see some people thinking it's the better Kanye-featured song. NIP has the advantage in the end, but I think Drake might end up taking home his first award here.
Best Rap/Sung Collaboration
1. Jay-Z & Kanye West feat. Frank Ocean & The-Dream, "No Church in The Wild" 2. Nas feat. Amy Winehouse, "Cherry Wine" 3. John Legend feat. Ludacris, "Tonight (Best You Ever Had)" 4. Rihanna feat. Jay-Z, "Talk That Talk" 5. Flo Rida feat. Sia, "Wild Ones"
Thoughts: this was an obvious one anyway, but that it is being presented just confirms it for me. This is just a guarantee that we will see Frank on stage at least once tonight.
Best Rap Song
1. Nas, "Daughters" 2. Jay-Z & Kanye West, "N's in Paris" 3. Drake feat. Lil Wayne, "The Motto" 4. Kanye West feat. Big Sean, Pusha T, and 2 Chainz, "Mercy" 5. Snoop Dogg & Wiz Khalifa feat. Bruno Mars, "Young, Wild and Free" 6. Wale feat. Miguel, "Lotus Flower Bomb"
Thoughts: see my opinion on rap performance; vote splitting will allow "Daughters" or "The Motto" to edge in here.
Best Rap Album
1. Nas, Life Is Good 1. Drake, Take Care 3. The Roots, Undun 4. Lupe Fiasco, Food & Liquor II: The Great American Rap Album, Pt. 1 5. Rick Ross, God Forgives, I Don't 6. 2 Chainz, Based on a T.R.U. Story
Thoughts: you'd think this would be Drake's year to finally take home a gramophone, but he's still surrounded by the rap greats in every category, and Nas is still a 'safe' choice to many, I'm sure. This could go either way.
Producer of the Year, Non-Classical
1. Dan Auerbach 2. Jeff Bhasker 3. Markus Dravs 4. Diplo 5. Salaam Remi
Best Short Form Video
1. Rihanna feat. Calvin Harrish, "We Found Love" 2. Jay-Z & Kanye West feat. Frank Ocean & The-Dream, "No Church In the Wild" 3. Foster the People, "Houdini" 4. Woodkid, "Run Boy Run" 5. M.I.A., "Bad Girls"
Overall thoughts: It will likely seem that a couple of acts got more attention than others based on the awards that will be shown, but in the end I am optimistic that this will not be a year where an act runs away with everything, or gets completely snubbed despite having several nominations.
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Post by Rican@ on Feb 10, 2013 13:19:05 GMT -5
MY PREDICTIONS...on a few
Record of the Year Gotye feat. Kimbra, "Somebody That I Used to Know"
Album of the Year The Black Keys, El Camino
Song of the Year fun. feat. Janelle Monae, "We Are Young"
Best New Artist Frank Ocean
Best Pop Solo Performance Kelly Clarkson, "Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)"
Best Pop Duo/Group Performance Maroon 5 feat. Wiz Khalifa, "Payphone"
Best Pop Vocal Album Maroon 5, Overexposed
Best R&B Performance Usher, "Climax"
Best Traditional R&B Performance Beyonce, "Love On Top"
Best R&B Song Miguel, "Adorn"
Best Urban Contemporary Album Frank Ocean, channel ORANGE
Best R&B Album R Kelly, Write Me Back
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Post by bigb0882 on Feb 10, 2013 13:21:08 GMT -5
I want Kelly to win all the awards she is up for but I actually would like to see SOTY go to Ed Sheeran. It is the only song of the bunch that has outstanding lyrics, IMO. Stronger has uplifting lyrics but that's not enough of a reason to win, IMO. Oddly, I don't think Sheeran has been in the running at all according to anything I have read.
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Post by maladroit on Feb 10, 2013 13:38:13 GMT -5
The more I consider the AOTY nominees, the more disappointing they seem in my eyes. A more representative set of albums would look something like this:
Drake - Take Care Florence and the Machine - Ceremonials Mumford & Sons - Babel Frank Ocean - Channel Orange Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball
You've got a game-changing hip hop crossover, a female(!) act with pop and indie appeal, the best-selling album of the year, the best-reviewed album of the year, and the requisite legacy artist/rock stalwart/political statement. Regrettably no country, but if a 6th spot were allowed, I would've given it to Lionel Richie.
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Post by DJ General on Feb 10, 2013 13:45:20 GMT -5
Babel was not the biggest selling album of 2012 ???
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Post by maladroit on Feb 10, 2013 13:51:35 GMT -5
Babel was not the biggest selling album of 2012 ??? Besides Adele (who already won), Taylor Swift (who isn't eligible), and One Direction (who are One Direction). Okay, so I was totally wrong, but my point is it sold a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 13:54:43 GMT -5
^I think he meant biggest selling album released during the nomination period? 21 and Red were released outside of the nomination period...Take Care has outsold Babel (though M&S will probably pass him eventually), but other than that I can't think of what else has sold more.
Okay that isn't what he meant lol. If he was going by that definition Buble outsold Babel too, but I was thinking he wasn't counting that b/c it was a holiday album.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Feb 10, 2013 15:02:20 GMT -5
I don't know why people keep referencing the Steely Dan wins... I thought it was well deserved and I have loved their music over the years. Of course I remember Two Against Nature. Eminem and his supporters need to get over his "loss", he's not well respected in the music community or otherwise he would have won. He's an angry hateful homophobic and misogynistic piece of s**t. He's not respected? People still believe he's homophobic and midogynistic? Hmm.
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Post by brucelover on Feb 10, 2013 15:13:59 GMT -5
"Who will open the show? Taylor Swift will open the show and sheβll be singing βWe Are Never Ever Getting Together,β which is nominated for record of the year."
BYE.
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Post by Philippe on Feb 10, 2013 15:19:06 GMT -5
Never done it before because I thought it was cheezy to do so (lol), here's my prediction:
Record of the Year Kelly Clarkson, "Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)"
Album of the Year Mumford and Sons, Babel
Song of the Year fun. feat. Janelle Monae, "We Are Young"
Best New Artist Frank Ocean
Best Pop Solo Performance Adele, "Set Fire to the Rain" (Live)
Best Pop Duo/Group Performance fun. feat. Janelle Monae, "We Are Young"
Best Pop Vocal Album Kelly Clarkson, Stronger
It's gonna be tight in most category.
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Post by maladroit on Feb 10, 2013 15:29:57 GMT -5
Al Walser is wearing a spacesuit, oh lord.
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Post by when the pawn... on Feb 10, 2013 15:37:02 GMT -5
Link to stream the pre-telecast? I see where to watch the red carpet but not the pre-telecast.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 15:40:47 GMT -5
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 10, 2013 15:59:07 GMT -5
And as usual the R&B categories are being handed out on the pre-telecast
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 10, 2013 16:01:03 GMT -5
FUSE's red carpet coverage has started.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 16:10:23 GMT -5
SHORT FORM MUSIC VIDEO: "We Found Love", Rihanna feat. Calvin Harris
LONG FORM MUSIC VIDEO: "Big Easy Express", Mumford & Sons
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Post by Philippe on Feb 10, 2013 16:10:30 GMT -5
One for Rihanna
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Post by DJ General on Feb 10, 2013 16:13:43 GMT -5
Congrats to Rihanna and Mumford & Sons (among other bands)
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Post by dbhmr on Feb 10, 2013 16:14:51 GMT -5
Well deserved for Rihanna. Great, great video.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 16:16:41 GMT -5
And as usual the R&B categories are being handed out on the pre-telecast Well they did throw us one bone (urban contemporary album). All the genres are getting only one or two awards shown, so it's not that any particular one is being snubbed. They're all getting the shaft so the Grammys can squeeze in more performances.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 10, 2013 16:18:07 GMT -5
Now we get to the technical categories... hopefully Kathy Griffin finally gets that long awaited Grammy she's always wanted!
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Post by maladroit on Feb 10, 2013 16:19:19 GMT -5
"The #Grammys ask the winners to keep the speeches short and then they put Krishna Das onstage?"
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