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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 28, 2012 10:35:06 GMT -5
Rolling Stone published a top 50 back in 2002 that looked like this: www.rockonthenet.com/archive/2002/rswomen.htmThe new list: www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/women-who-rock-the-50-greatest-albums-of-all-time-20120622I know that 4 received more year-end notices than Born This Way- but, this is just one outlet, after all. 1. Aretha Franklin - I Never Loved a Man the Way I Loved You 2. Joni Mitchell - Blue 3. Dusty Springfield - Dusty in Memphis 4. Fleetwood Mac - Rumours 5. Patti Smith - Horses 6. ADELE - 21 7. Missy Elliott - Under Construction 8. Blondie - Parallel Lines 9. The Supremes - Anthology 10. Bikini Kill - The Singles 11. Lady Gaga - Born this Way 12. Janis Joplin - Pearl 13. Mary J Blige - My Life 14. Pretenders - Pretenders 15. Patsy Cline - The Patsy Cline Collection 16. Labelle - Nightbirds 17. Sleater-Kinney - The Hot Rock 18. Madonna - Like a Prayer 19. Joan Jett - Boardwalk 20. Etta James - At Last 21. Carole King - Tapestry 22. Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville 23. Donna Summer - Bad Girls 24. Hole - Live Through This 25. Heart Portrait 26. Janet Jackson - Rhythm Nation 27. Dionne Warwick - Presenting... 28. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz! 29. M.I.A. - Kala 30. Alicia Keys - As I Am 31. PJ Harvey - Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea 32. Dolly Parton - Best of Dolly Parton 33. Irma Thomas - Soul Queen of New Orleans 34. The Go-Go's - Beauty and the Beat 35. The Ronnetes - ABKCO 36. X-Ray Spex - Germ Free Adolescents 37. Beyonce - 4 38. Björk - Post 39. Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine 40. Yoko Ono - Rykodisc 41. Cyndi Lauper - She's so Unusual 42. Linda Ronstadt - Heart Like a Wheel 43. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill 44. Siouxsie and the Banshees - Once Upon A Time 45. Taylor Swift - Speak Now 46. Salt-n-Pepa - Hot, Cool and Vicious 47. Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels on a Gravel Road 48. Bonnie Raitt - Give It Up 49. The Breeders - Last Splash 50. Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill Aside from a 48-track list of songs from the top 50 albums, RS also has a longer Ultimate Women Who Rock Playlist here: www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ultimate-women-who-rock-playlist-20120622 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2012 18:00:34 GMT -5
No Amy Winehouse? Really?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 28, 2012 18:08:31 GMT -5
Yah- odd that Back in Black didn't have a spot on the list.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2012 18:09:46 GMT -5
Born This Way outranked every Madonna album. :o
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 28, 2012 18:12:19 GMT -5
^A Rolling Stone thing. :) Born This Way really didn't do all that well on 2011 year-end critics' lists- Queen B.'s 4 album fared better.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2012 18:13:37 GMT -5
^A Rolling Stone thing. :) Born This Way really didn't do all that well on 2011 year-end critics' lists- Queen B.'s 4 album fared better. So what? This isn't about other critics' year-end lists. |
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jun 28, 2012 18:15:32 GMT -5
Born This Way outranked every Madonna album. :o Born this Way is every Madonna album. This list is kind of weird... 50 great artists, ranked strangely. |
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Post by Honeymoon on Jun 28, 2012 20:39:48 GMT -5
Yeah the ranking does look like it's on shuffle or something.
And agreed about the lack of Winehouse. Annie Lennox's Diva should be there as well.
If they were going to include a Lady Gaga album (personally I think albums of the last couple years should be exempt from these 'all time' lists - how can you possibly compare current chart hits with the classics in a fair manner? Let the dust settle at least), I would've gone for The Fame Monster EP. I think that will stand up much better in ten years than BTW - in fact it already does. The only song on BTW that comes close to the many highs on TFM is "The Edge of Glory".
I'm pleased to see Blondie so high and Cyndi making an appearance.
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Post by Jay D83 on Jun 29, 2012 8:33:10 GMT -5
Stupid List. Where is WHITNEY HOUSTON? The album that started the female VOCAL POWERHOUSE movement?
Where is BUTTERFLY? The album that started the trend of female artists bucking the 'system' and doing it for themselves?
Those exclusions means this list is trash!
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Jun 29, 2012 8:34:52 GMT -5
No Britney Legendspears' BLACKOUT ???? Really?????????????!!!!!!!
No Carrie Underwood's SOME HEARTS???? Really?????????????!!!!!!!!
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Post by Honeymoon on Jun 29, 2012 8:39:31 GMT -5
Stupid List. Where is WHITNEY HOUSTON? The album that started the female VOCAL POWERHOUSE movement? Where is BUTTERFLY? The album that started the trend of female artists bucking the 'system' and doing it for themselves? Those exclusions means this list is trash! I guess Whitney's first album could be on there but wasn't she generally considered to be a "singles artist" by the critics aside from the well regarded debut? |
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Post by Caviar on Jun 29, 2012 10:04:28 GMT -5
No STRIPPED???????????
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Post by Jay D83 on Jun 29, 2012 10:44:11 GMT -5
Stupid List. Where is WHITNEY HOUSTON? The album that started the female VOCAL POWERHOUSE movement? Where is BUTTERFLY? The album that started the trend of female artists bucking the 'system' and doing it for themselves? Those exclusions means this list is trash! I guess Whitney's first album could be on there but wasn't she generally considered to be a "singles artist" by the critics aside from the well regarded debut? She was, but her debut album is the one that started it all, plus it was well received by critics. |
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Post by MikeCheck12 on Jun 29, 2012 10:47:53 GMT -5
Yay for PJ Harvey making the list!
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Post by dbhmr on Jun 29, 2012 11:05:48 GMT -5
Stupid List. Where is WHITNEY HOUSTON? No Carrie Underwood's SOME HEARTS???? Really?????????????!!!!!!!! lol |
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Post by Honeymoon on Jun 29, 2012 11:27:42 GMT -5
I guess Whitney's first album could be on there but wasn't she generally considered to be a "singles artist" by the critics aside from the well regarded debut? She was, but her debut album is the one that started it all, plus it was well received by critics. I love Whitney and I'm Your Baby Tonight is one of my favorite albums of the 90s (and her debut for the 80s) but I've never seen any album aside from the debut on any all time list. I'm not saying she doesn't belong there, it's just not a big surprise that they snubbed her |
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Post by Jay D83 on Jun 29, 2012 11:51:12 GMT -5
She was, but her debut album is the one that started it all, plus it was well received by critics. I love Whitney and I'm Your Baby Tonight is one of my favorite albums of the 90s (and her debut for the 80s) but I've never seen any album aside from the debut on any all time list. I'm not saying she doesn't belong there, it's just not a big surprise that they snubbed her But, this list was about the greatest ALBUMS of all time, not album artists, that's why I capitalized WHITNEY HOUSTON (her debut), I was talking about the album, not the artist. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2012 12:32:30 GMT -5
Beyonce on another greatest list.....I like :) glad to see "4" get placed :)
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Post by d.t.m on Jun 29, 2012 12:59:40 GMT -5
I thought RS loved Whitney's first album and gave it 4 stars? Like the inclusion of Cyndi and Donna, but Amy, Whitney, and even Norah's first album should be there.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 29, 2012 19:51:19 GMT -5
Whitney Houston is ranked at the Acclaimed Music site; none of her other albums are. The Bodyguard soundtrack has appeared on a few lists, but not enough for top 3000 placement.
Butterfly has appeared on a few lists, but also is a bubbling under album at AM. Neither Houston or Carey have enjoyed large acclaim on these kinds of lists, so it's not really surprising that RS didn't include an album from them on this updated list.
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Post by Positive Tension on Jun 29, 2012 21:56:05 GMT -5
Surprised at 4 appearing on the list. I thought it got decent reviews but nothing worthy of this list. Same with Born This Way.
Very glad with Hole, Fleetwood Mac, Madonna, Alanis, Janet, Joni, and Yeah Yeah Yeahs making it.
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Jun 29, 2012 23:56:08 GMT -5
No Britney Legendspears' BLACKOUT ???? Really?????????????!!!!!!! No Carrie Underwood's SOME HEARTS???? Really?????????????!!!!!!!!  |
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Post by bat1990 on Jun 30, 2012 21:26:43 GMT -5
I'm surprised Jagged Little Pill is so low, but at least it made it.
Glad to see Rhythm Nation 1814 on there. At least some people remember when Janet was acclaimed and successful.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jul 1, 2012 9:56:39 GMT -5
Dolly Parton, Patsy Cline and Supremes are represented by "collections" - GH should NOT be included on this type of list.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Jul 1, 2012 12:12:23 GMT -5
Where is BUTTERFLY? The album that started the trend of female artists bucking the 'system' and doing it for themselves? Hardly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2012 12:33:36 GMT -5
 at some of the responses in this thread. It's a great list, but the order could be retooled. I'd love to see a Top 100.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jul 1, 2012 21:14:16 GMT -5
I love Rolling Stone's trolling.
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Post by Kurt on Jul 1, 2012 22:15:50 GMT -5
Let me cover about eight more responses for you:
No [my favorite diva]'s [BEST ALBUM]???????
Now that we're past that...really? This is from the introductory paragraph:
Adele? Fierce? Rock and roller? Come on...I don't think I need to explain how much I love Adele but "rock and roll" is about as far from a good descriptor of her as rap would be.
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at some of the responses in this thread.
