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Post by Kid Pulse on Apr 16, 2007 18:08:35 GMT -5
We all know Rob Thomas and The Goo Goo Dolls excel here. We all know Nickelback, Kelly Clarkson, and Maroon 5 are proven here, that Avril Lavigne is a solid hitter, and that Train is pretty steady. But who is the future (not counting those who have really have only 1 hit).
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Post by Rumors on Apr 16, 2007 20:04:55 GMT -5
I'll go with The Fray.
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Post by KelownaGuy20 on Apr 16, 2007 20:25:18 GMT -5
I, too, could see the Fray continuing to make music that HotAC just eats up, long after they're no longer revelant on any other format.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Apr 16, 2007 20:33:18 GMT -5
I agree with the Fray and possibly KT Tunstall. I'm iffy with her since she's not American based and thus her next album may not be as big on this side of the ocean as the first one was. She may focus her attention on the UK if prospects don't look good initially. I think she got hits based on the songs and not on her name whereas the Fray are establishing a name similar to that of MB20 or Lifehouse.
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Post by blurple on Apr 17, 2007 23:59:51 GMT -5
Daughtry and The Fray
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Post by Timmy on Apr 18, 2007 0:57:16 GMT -5
now im not saying they have the brightest future in the big picture, but relatively they have a shot of success. "Skillet" their first HAC single The Older i Get just went for adds today, plus their next single should have decent success as well. Atlantic is really pushing this.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Apr 18, 2007 6:13:12 GMT -5
Well, I chose the Fray but I think all these have thier best success ahead of them on this format.
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Post by singingsparrow on Apr 18, 2007 11:30:33 GMT -5
It'll either be Daughtry or The Fray.
Daughtry, of course, understands the hit-making formula that bands like 3 Doors Down and Nickelback have benefitted from, both of which have had immense success as of late (though 3 Doors Down lost momentum with "Seventeen Days") and so, with Nickelback having dominated the chart this era with four Top 2 singles, Daughtry will certainly be here to stay.
The Fray also should fit like a glove into the format because they blend well with the sensitive male songwriter group that includes Rob Thomas/matchbox twenty and the Goo Goo Dolls, who continue to effortlessly make the Top 10 single after single. It's true their enormous hype on MySpace and iTunes will inevitably begin evaporating (one can argue it's already happening with the lukewarm run of "Look After You" on iTunes and Top 40 radio, though it wasn't a wise single choice to begin with) thus one can make the argument "How To Save A Life" was a fluke and their sophomore album will face a whole different challenge, but I think a hyped lead single alone should help well enough to convince that The Fray have become a staple name to Hot AC.
I don't see KT Tunstall having much longevity on this format. I think just like Train, she's going to gravitate back toward Triple A and airplay for future singles will diminish, just as it has happened with Train in their most recent era "For Me, It's You" when "Cab" made the Top 10 here but the follow-up couldn't even make the Top 30. She'll be around, just not in the same way as this era.
I think the All-American Rejects are a fluke here. Pop-punk singles have a way of crossing over and getting airplay here ONLY if they become hits at Mainstream Top 40 first. The latest from Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance both weren't really pop-friendly, but nonetheless charted here because they peaked relatively high at CHR/Pop. I think once their golden age at CHR/Pop evaporates, so will future play at Hot AC. Look at Bowling For Soup and Simple Plan.
James Blunt, one true hit wonder, say no more.
Hinder, I may be proven wrong, but I don't think they'll have the same lasting appeal as Nickelback. Of course it's just my opinion that "Extreme Behavior" is a horrible album, thus there may be a bias toward my perception, but then again bad reviews haven't stopped many artists from achieving mass success as of late, including Nickelback and the Black Eyed Peas. Then again, bands like Default follow the same sort of direct, emotive songwriting formula yet have failed to duplicate the success of Nickelback, so it's just my hunch but I don't think they'll live as long.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Apr 18, 2007 18:05:33 GMT -5
I really enjoy that feedback. It was very entertaining.
I agree that Daughtry is kind of in Nickelback's footsteps, and I think The Fray are like the Goo Goo Dolls. Nobody is as good as Rob/MB20 though.
I have to defend the All-American Rejects here, though. BFS only had that one hit single "1985" on this chart back in 2004-5. That was a pop crossover.
AAR had a similar, less-succesful first hit with "Dirty Little Secret".
But "Move Along" was bigger on Hot AC than pop, and "It Ends Tonight" was much more sussecful here than pop.
So I'm saying that AAR is embraced more by HAC right now than pop, so they are not crossovers.
"It Ends Tonight" was the Hot AC sleeper hit of the first half of the year, and these guys will have hits again in my opinion.
Hinder will probably end up being like a less-sussecful Vertical Horizon, although I think they will have other big hits.
And I disagree with the James Blunt comment, too; because "High" was nearly top ten here, so he's no one hit wonder. Also, that song was an old single from other countries, so whenever his next album comes out, the first single will surely go top 10.
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Post by NORTHCOAST on Apr 18, 2007 18:33:32 GMT -5
If thought for a while that The Fray are kind of a newer version of MB20. They spin off hit after hit, stay under the radar with their personal lives, seem like nice guys. I'll be curious if they can follow up with their next album though.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Apr 18, 2007 18:42:57 GMT -5
The only reason why I didn't include Daughtry into this list is because they are more of a rock band associated with American Idol and as far as I know, no AI rock artist has been able to sustain any success. Plus, even though they've had a big hit, I don't think the band will stay around long enough to have any longterm success. Although I'll wait until the album is wrapping up singles-wise before I conclude this one.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Apr 18, 2007 19:31:08 GMT -5
If thought for a while that The Fray are kind of a newer version of MB20. They spin off hit after hit, stay under the radar with their personal lives, seem like nice guys. I'll be curious if they can follow up with their next album though. I like the compariosn. Also, a recent photo during the "How to Save a Life" craze mirrored my favorite pic of Matchbox Twnenty. Theyre next album will be better than thier first, hit-wise on Hot AC!!
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Post by Kai on Apr 18, 2007 19:51:22 GMT -5
The Fray are okay but their songs tend to sound the same. Same for Nickelback, Blunt, Hinder, Kearney, Timberlake, Mayer, etc. The reason Rob Thomas, with or without Matchbox 20, is so deservedly successful is because each of his songs are so different from the other. He can rock out with Bright Lights or Disease, sing a heartfelt ballad like Ever the Same or If You're Gone, make us get up and dance with Lonely No More or stir up our emotions with Push or Unwell. None of those songs are like the other and that's why he's the King of HotAC.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2007 22:03:02 GMT -5
The Fray are okay but their songs tend to sound the same. Same for Nickelback, Blunt, Hinder, Kearney, Timberlake, Mayer, etc. The reason Rob Thomas, with or without Matchbox 20, is so deservedly successful is because each of his songs are so different from the other. He can rock out with Bright Lights or Disease, sing a heartfelt ballad like Ever the Same or If You're Gone, make us get up and dance with Lonely No More or stir up our emotions with Push or Unwell. None of those songs are like the other and that's why he's the King of HotAC. I pretty much agree with this. Of course, I'm a die-hard mb20/Rob Thomas fan, so I am a bit biased. Anyway, this poll depresses me if these are the top contenders to be the next Hot AC radio darlings. I consider Hot AC my core format (though I listen to several), and these artists are all ok I guess, but none of them really thrill me all that much. Actually, I do like James Blunt, but I don't see him with the "brightest future." So I voted for "Other" out of wishful thinking, if nothing else. Just don't ask me who "other" means, LOL, because I don't know.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Apr 20, 2007 18:23:47 GMT -5
If Lifehouse can pull 2 hits in a row on their next album (which would be a first for them) I think they'll have the brightest future on Hot AC. Hopefully they do because they're my favorite band
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Post by Kid Pulse on Apr 20, 2007 22:50:26 GMT -5
I tried to focous on new atrists coming up, such as The Fray and Daughtry.
But, Lifehouse has really only had 2 hits here, and they are 2 of the biggest hits in Hot AC history, so I see where you're going with that. I have to say that I think The Fray has the brightest furute.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Apr 21, 2007 17:06:10 GMT -5
I'll have to say The Fray as well since they've already had 2 huge hits on here and their third single looks to be solid as well. Snow Patrol might have a chance too if their new single gets hot.
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Post by Rumors on Apr 21, 2007 21:37:12 GMT -5
I'm going to go a little off-topic here but I just got back from Nashville where I had the pleasure to see Rob's documentary about the recording of his first solo album. For all us music lovers (and some Rob fans in this post), it's a must see. It debuted in the Nashville film festival and will probably go to a few other festivals and then to DVD. It's got it all including behind the scenes coverage of marketing meetings at Atlantic on how they will try to seperate Rob from MB20. There's one scene where Rob is playing Lonely No More for the first time to three guys who have or are currently major label CEOs...Matt Serletic, Lyor Cohen, and Jason Flom. Music sessions with Wendy Melvin (guitarist for Prince), John Mayer, Robert Randolph, Jeff Trout (Sheryl Crow's guitarist), that Save the Music performance with Alicia Keys. Office meeting with Clive Davis, etc, etc.
Okay back to the topic at hand.
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Post by shocker on Apr 22, 2007 1:00:36 GMT -5
My picks for brightest Hot AC future are Rob Thomas, the Fray, Kelly Clarkson, and many artists or bands yet to be discovered. "American Idol" might give us some hints on some future Hot AC stars.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Apr 22, 2007 14:34:45 GMT -5
My picks for brightest Hot AC future are Rob Thomas, the Fray, Kelly Clarkson, and many artists or bands yet to be discovered. "American Idol" might give us some hints on some future Hot AC stars. Nice to see you mention Rob Thomas!! 1. Rob Thomas 2. Nickelback 3. Kelly Clarkson 4. Maroon 5 5. The Fray But the Fray will be the best "newer" artist here.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 30, 2007 18:44:12 GMT -5
Most successful Hot AC artists in the future (I think): 1. Rob Thomas/Matchbox Twenty 2. Nickelback 3. Goo Goo Dolls 4. The Fray 5. Lifehouse ON THE WAY OUT: Kelly Clarkson, Maroon 5 (don't think current CD will produce many other hits), James Blunt, Daniel Powter
Still hoping Augustana will develop into a core Hot AC band - but it depends on if they can write another hit song
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jun 30, 2007 19:30:58 GMT -5
Most successful Hot AC artists in the future (I think): 1. Rob Thomas/Matchbox Twenty 2. Nickelback 3. Goo Goo Dolls 4. The Fray 5. Lifehouse ON THE WAY OUT: Kelly Clarkson, Maroon 5 (don't think current CD will produce many other hits), James Blunt, Daniel Powter Still hoping Augustana will develop into a core Hot AC band - but it depends on if they can write another hit song That top 5 seems very accurate, but I have to disagree on the Kelly Clarkson thing...and why don't you think Maroon 5's CD won't produce many more hits? I like the fact you have The Goo Goo Dolls so high, most people thought they were on thier way out. So do you think Daughtry is just a phase on Hot AC? BTW, I think "Stars and Boulevards" SHOULD have been a hit.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 30, 2007 19:49:09 GMT -5
Most successful Hot AC artists in the future (I think): 1. Rob Thomas/Matchbox Twenty 2. Nickelback 3. Goo Goo Dolls 4. The Fray 5. Lifehouse ON THE WAY OUT: Kelly Clarkson, Maroon 5 (don't think current CD will produce many other hits), James Blunt, Daniel Powter Still hoping Augustana will develop into a core Hot AC band - but it depends on if they can write another hit song That top 5 seems very accurate, but I have to disagree on the Kelly Clarkson thing...and why don't you think Maroon 5's CD won't produce many more hits? I like the fact you have The Goo Goo Dolls so high, most people thought they were on thier way out. So do you think Daughtry is just a phase on Hot AC? BTW, I think "Stars and Boulevards" SHOULD have been a hit. Yeah - glad you agree with the Top 5 - I actually wasn't sure about Daughtry - I guess it reminds me a little too much off the "Hootie & the Blowfish" phenomenon - alright songwriting, great production, completely new sound, but based on songs the artist has written his whole life - in other words, when the second CD comes out, will Daughtry be able to write enough new-sounding material that doesn't sound like the old stuff (current hits) that people will be sick of? (This happened to Hootie in 1996) Kelly Clarkson's "Never Again" was a pretty big flop, and "Sober" is doing ridiculously poorly - she doesn't write her own material - it could be like a Mariah Carey phenomen - maybe people who write hit songs will "rediscover" and "reinvent" her in the future, but at this point, these songwriters have turned away from her I don't think the Goo Goo Dolls are on the way out at all - "Before It's Too Late" is an incredible single, and it doesn't sound like the hits off their last two CD's - b/c of the Clear Channel Kiss takeover of the Top 40 chart, the Goo Goo Dolls have been almost exclusively confined to Hot AC (except for Top 40 stations with no Hot AC in the market), but they still receive a huge amount of airplay, especially with hits from their first two CDs as recurrents - I also wouldn't be surprised if John Rzeznik goes solo and becomes the next Rob Thomas I sampled songs from the Maroon 5 CD on "I-Tunes" and nothing really seemed to "stick out" as a strong single except for "Makes Me Wonder" and the very first track on the CD (can't remember the name) - another track called "Not Falling Apart" was alright, but it didn't seem anything like their last CD (I only sampled bits of songs, so I could be completely wrong) As for Augustana, "Boston" was such a big hit b/c it was (for the most part) upbeat compared to "Stars And Boulevards" and most other tracks on the CD - if they can write more tracks like "Boston" I think they could become a really successful band on Hot AC - "Boston" was also a big hit on a pretty large number of CHR/Pop stations (that would allow it on their playlist) so I think they have the same crossover appeal as the Fray
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Post by unicorns on Jul 2, 2007 14:51:01 GMT -5
Daughtry.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 2, 2007 20:37:58 GMT -5
I'm surprised to see Daughtry leading The Fray in this poll.
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Post by No Brake$ on Jul 3, 2007 16:22:14 GMT -5
Maroon 5 without doubt is here to stay.
They have another three singles that will go Top 10 if not Top 5 on this format.
Won't Go Home Without You, mark my word, will be one of the Top 20 songs of the decade on this format.
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Post by crazyfun1 on Jul 3, 2007 17:57:51 GMT -5
The funny thing about this thread, is that almost everyone has written about Rob Thomas/MB20, yet they're not a choice on the poll. Maybe because they're a given mainstay?
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 3, 2007 20:57:11 GMT -5
It's my fault for wording this thread wrong. I should have said new artist with the brightest future. I doubt anyone will knock Rob Thomas off of the top (and if anyone did, it would be Maroon 5 or Nickelback), but I think The Fray and Daughtry were the main 2 when it comes to having a solid future here in the likes of Rob, Nickelback, The Goo Goo Dolls, Kelly Clarkson, and Maroon 5.
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Post by tico on Jul 3, 2007 23:47:06 GMT -5
I don't think you could go wrong picking the Fray or Daughtry. I pick Daughtry because he has the hot hand right now, although I'm unsure about his longevity.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 4, 2007 10:01:22 GMT -5
I don't think you could go wrong picking the Fray or Daughtry. I pick Daughtry because he has the hot hand right now, although I'm unsure about his longevity. I'm really unsure of Daughtry's longevity (see the "Hootie & the Blowfish" syndrome above) - I think his popularity is due to the novelty of his voice and production sound - his songs actually are pretty mediocre, if they were to be sung by someone else
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