Matt4319
Administrator
Joined: September 2003
Posts: 15,215
Staff
|
Post by Matt4319 on May 4, 2009 11:14:45 GMT -5
33 33  FLO RIDA Right Round 431 389 42 1.456 Does anyone have an idea why this is even charting on Hot AC? I can understand how the format is shifting more pop -- for example, I would want to hear my Hot AC playing Lady Gaga, Britney, or Kelly as long as I wasn't sick of the song -- but this is going too far IMO. I suppose the sample might be helping things a little bit, but still. Hell, I can imagine some out-of-touch middle-aged midday jock introducing "the latest from FLOR-i-da". |
|
atlantaboy
9x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2007
Posts: 9,251
|
Post by atlantaboy on May 4, 2009 11:34:02 GMT -5
^Too many CHRs reporting to the Hot AC panel IMO...this also makes the CHR chart way too rhythmic
|
|
Battle601
2x Platinum Member
Joined: November 2008
Posts: 2,388 
|
Post by Battle601 on May 4, 2009 11:51:36 GMT -5
For sure, I think the sample definitely has something to do with its impact on Hot AC. Even in Canada, this song is #2 on the Hot AC charts right behind Kelly Clarkson - even some stations that are not CHR/Rhythmic leaning are playing this. Granted, this is the last song I would ever expect to hear on this format but it seems that this ended up being one of the few songs that has a lot more crossover appeal compared to his other big hit "Low" (which some Hot AC stations touched but either charted poorly or not at all).
After having heard this song multiple times, it is somewhat ridiculous to see Hot AC stations push the kind of song that would typically become more suitable for both the CHR and Rhythmic formats, and more so, essentially be an anthem for the strip clubs.
But hey, music is universal - if it's that good, it can stretch across various boundaries, regardless of the format. You never know, somewhere down the line, even an artist in the country format might be willing to cover this type of song if it has the potential to draw some mainstream appeal. LOL
Either that or Mediabase needs to review the station panels for each format.
|
|
atlantaboy
9x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2007
Posts: 9,251
|
Post by atlantaboy on May 4, 2009 12:54:07 GMT -5
Mediabase needs to review the station panels for each format. Def. agree with this statement  Esp. cause most HACs playin Right Round are also playin Mad, Boom Boom Pow, Love Sex Magic, etc...it's all good, but it's CHR (cause they're playin all types of music IMO) KBMX/Duluth - playin Mad, Don't Trust Me, Beautiful, Love Sex Magic, Heartless, Kiss Me Thru The Phone, Right Now (Na Na Na) KLCA/Reno - playin Right Round and Mad KLTG/Corpus Christi - playin Mad, Kiss Me Thru The Phone, Right Round, Boom Boom Pow, Don't Trust Me, Love Sex Magic KUDD/Salt Lake City - playin Right Round, Welcome To The World, Jai Ho! (You Are My Destiny) WAYV/Atlantic City - playin Beautiful, Love Sex Magic, Mad WKDD/Akron - playin Mad, Love Sex Magic, Right Round, Live Your Life WKRQ/Cincinatti - playin Sugar, Boom Boom Pow, Love Sex Magic WQAL/Cleveland - playin Right Round and Heartless WUHU/Bowling Green - playin Right Round, Dead And Gone, Boom Boom Pow, Love Sex Magic, Blame It, Sugar WWMX/Baltimore - playin Boom Boom Pow, Right Round, Dead And Gone, Kiss Me Thru The Phone, Heartless, and Blame It |
|
gin
9x Platinum Member
Has-been
bitch Are You Mentally Retarded???????? Take medications! and GTFO now
Joined: March 2009
Posts: 9,096
|
Post by gin on May 4, 2009 14:30:47 GMT -5
Mediabase needs to review the station panels for each format. Def. agree with this statement Esp. cause most HACs playin Right Round are also playin Mad, Boom Boom Pow, Love Sex Magic, etc...it's all good, but it's CHR (cause they're playin all types of music IMO) If it appeals to adults, no matter what other format it is, couldn't it be considered HAC as well? |
|
atlantaboy
9x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2007
Posts: 9,251
|
Post by atlantaboy on May 4, 2009 15:26:36 GMT -5
Def. agree with this statement Esp. cause most HACs playin Right Round are also playin Mad, Boom Boom Pow, Love Sex Magic, etc...it's all good, but it's CHR (cause they're playin all types of music IMO) If it appeals to adults, no matter what other format it is, couldn't it be considered HAC as well? Not sure it really appeals to adults though, cause the HACs playin it are playin so many other teen-oriented tracks...thinkin it's more a case that stations appealing to both adults and teens (or dayparting) are bein classified as HAC instead of CHR Seems like KBMX/Duluth, KLTG/Corpus Christi, WUHU/Bowling Green, and WWMX/Baltimore are playin more teen-oriented tracks than the entire panel of Cumulus CHR stations |
|
Minor Scratch
7x Platinum Member
Joined: February 2005
Posts: 7,027
|
Post by Minor Scratch on May 4, 2009 17:40:03 GMT -5
If the entire HAC chart was playing the same stuff, it wouldn't be great. There isn't enough product to go around, so PDs are probably looking to other formats that have songs that would fit the bill. New Active Rock and Alternative releases are sneaking on to some playlists too.
Some CHR or Rhythmic stuff in there aren't completely non-HAC either. Most of those songs fit fine in rotation and have some appeal to older demographics.
And there is the competition and market factor as well. Some of those stations mentioned above compete heavily with the Pop and Rhythmic stations in their markets for ratings (especially the Reno and Salt Lake City markets, which both have strong CHRs, and Corpus Christi, which has a strong Rhythmic).
Also, some of those mid-sized markets don't have anything close to a CHR (Duluth, for example). That means that the HAC demographic is targeted much younger because of no CHR station to tune to.
|
|
atlantaboy
9x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2007
Posts: 9,251
|
Post by atlantaboy on May 4, 2009 17:45:22 GMT -5
And there is the competition and market factor as well. Some of those stations mentioned above compete heavily with the Pop and Rhythmic stations in their markets for ratings (especially the Reno and Salt Lake City markets, which both have strong CHRs, and Corpus Christi, which has a strong Rhythmic). Also, some of those mid-sized markets don't have anything close to a CHR (Duluth, for example). That means that the HAC demographic is targeted much younger because of no CHR station to tune to. Yeah that's just what I mean though...these Hot ACs are either competing with CHRs (and Rhythmics), or are filling a hole in the market for CHR - either way, they're competing for both the younger and adult demo (not just the adult demo), so by definition they're CHR (IMO) Rhythmic stations are only removed from the CHR panel if they play 100% rhythmic tracks...so IMO the same standard should be applied to Hot AC - if there's no reason for them not to report to CHR (i. e. they only play songs which target adults), have them report to CHR Otherwise, you get just what we have...an artificially rhythmic-leaning CHR chart |
|
KelownaGuy20
2x Platinum Member
Joined: January 2004
Posts: 2,449
Pronouns: He / Him / His
|
Post by KelownaGuy20 on May 4, 2009 17:55:32 GMT -5
Yeah that's just what I mean though...these Hot ACs are either competing with CHRs (and Rhythmics), or are filling a hole in the market for CHR - either way, they're competing for both the younger and adult demo (not just the adult demo), so by definition they're CHR (IMO) Alas, that's just an opinion. If you ask me, a station's classification all comes down to the number of times they spin tracks, how often they play currents, and the kind of songs they're playing. If a station plays "Right Round" 20 times a week, with 60% of their playlist being recurrents and golds, I don't that that makes that station a CHR by any means. I think it's just giving adults in that market a bit more variety, and that's never a bad thing, is it? |
|
atlantaboy
9x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2007
Posts: 9,251
|
Post by atlantaboy on May 4, 2009 18:02:44 GMT -5
Yeah that's just what I mean though...these Hot ACs are either competing with CHRs (and Rhythmics), or are filling a hole in the market for CHR - either way, they're competing for both the younger and adult demo (not just the adult demo), so by definition they're CHR (IMO) Alas, that's just an opinion. If you ask me, a station's classification all comes down to the number of times they spin tracks, how often they play currents, and the kind of songs they're playing. If a station plays "Right Round" 20 times a week, with 60% of their playlist being recurrents and golds, I don't that that makes that station a CHR by any means. I think it's just giving adults in that market a bit more variety, and that's never a bad thing, is it? Dunno...it's not a bad thing, but it's balancing ur station to appeal to both adults and teens, which I'd call CHR...it's not giving adults more variety, it's broadening ur station to appeal to adults during the day (most likely) and teens at night BTW these stations aren't followin the Canadian Hot AC model...WWMX is spinnin Right Round 43x a week (#4 on their playlist), and nearly all the others have many urban/rhythmic tracks in rotation between 30-60x a week...a couple spin their powers 85-90x a week, so they're definitely current-based stations (not based on recurrent/gold tracks) - and as Minor Scratch was sayin, they compete with Rhythmic stations and serve as CHRs...no way they exclusively target adults |
|
atlantaboy
9x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2007
Posts: 9,251
|
Post by atlantaboy on Jun 4, 2009 17:38:03 GMT -5
Yeah that's just what I mean though...these Hot ACs are either competing with CHRs (and Rhythmics), or are filling a hole in the market for CHR - either way, they're competing for both the younger and adult demo (not just the adult demo), so by definition they're CHR (IMO) Alas, that's just an opinion. If you ask me, a station's classification all comes down to the number of times they spin tracks, how often they play currents, and the kind of songs they're playing. If a station plays "Right Round" 20 times a week, with 60% of their playlist being recurrents and golds, I don't that that makes that station a CHR by any means. I think it's just giving adults in that market a bit more variety, and that's never a bad thing, is it? Sorry to bump this up but just saw the Canadian CHR chart for the first time...it's somethin like 80% pop/rhythmic (especially the Top 20 which is like 90% pop/rhythmic), so def. understand why Canadian Hot AC is more rhythmic than U. S. HAC |
|
