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Post by fran182 on May 5, 2009 12:14:16 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 50 on Mediabase Hot AC:
59 50 3OH!3 Don't Trust Me 125 93 32 0.202
9 stations playing.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 5, 2009 20:59:50 GMT -5
^IMO see thread for Right Round (same situation...these are CHRs that Mediabase won't move from Hot AC)
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Post by fran182 on May 30, 2009 8:49:42 GMT -5
Today, it reached top 40 on Mediabase Hot AC:
45 40 3OH!3 Don't Trust Me 258 198 60 0.536
17 stations playing.
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Post by musicfanpete on May 31, 2009 22:43:43 GMT -5
^IMO see thread for Right Round (same situation...these are CHRs that Mediabase won't move from Hot AC) I think this sounds a bit more modern rock leaning than "Right Round", but at the same time is a pretty dance leaning track as well. This could go higher than some think, but I think it might hit the usual top 20 or 25 wall that most songs of these types encounter. Irregardless of where this lands, I'm not a big fan of that "Helen Keller" lyric in the refrain. Not only is the mention of her insulting to people who are blind and/or deaf, but the meaning of that whole line is raunchy and tacky! This most likely will mean that most Hot AC's will probably take a pass on this song because of that lyric for the same reason that most will probably skip "Lovegame" by Lady Gaga for the same reason. I'm all for pop crossovers on Hot AC, but they must appeal to the adult listeners of the Hot AC format. Those two songs definately don't!
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Post by erzo01 on Jun 4, 2009 7:41:49 GMT -5
Hot AC
41 36 3OH!3 Don't Trust Me 296 244 52 0.611
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 5, 2009 11:02:49 GMT -5
Irregardless of where this lands, I'm not a big fan of that "Helen Keller" lyric in the refrain. Not only is the mention of her insulting to people who are blind and/or deaf, but the meaning of that whole line is raunchy and tacky! This most likely will mean that most Hot AC's will probably take a pass on this song because of that lyric for the same reason that most will probably skip "Lovegame" by Lady Gaga for the same reason. I'm all for pop crossovers on Hot AC, but they must appeal to the adult listeners of the Hot AC format. Those two songs definately don't! I was sort of questioning that too the first few times I heard "Don't Trust Me". There are many who certainly would not take kindly to those lyrics. If not only for that, it's otherwise a cool, fun-going party track. Even my station had it on the playlist for about three weeks before it got dropped, probably for the same reasons and it was played only during evenings and overnights. With "LoveGame" it's not as bad. Seems to be doing just as well on Hot AC as it has on Top 40 here in Canada, and everyone has been able to get past the whole "disco stick" issue.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 5, 2009 11:48:27 GMT -5
^Really think major difference is Don't Trust Me is rap (white Colorado rap I guess lol)...hafta go back and listen to lyrics but seems like if one lyric caused people to dislike the whole song they'd just edit out the lyric - also GaGa already has creds on lots of Hot AC stations (esp. in Canada)
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Post by KelownaGuy20 on Jun 5, 2009 13:47:32 GMT -5
You know what's funny? We tried out 3Oh3! here in Kelowna (where we're currently playing the likes of Flo Rida and Soulja Boy), and despite the lyrical content of the song, the only complaints we got were in regards to a poorly edited use of the F-word.
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Post by musicfanpete on Jun 5, 2009 14:36:24 GMT -5
^Really think major difference is Don't Trust Me is rap (white Colorado rap I guess lol)...hafta go back and listen to lyrics but seems like if one lyric caused people to dislike the whole song they'd just edit out the lyric - also GaGa already has creds on lots of Hot AC stations (esp. in Canada) I think there will be a fair number of Hot AC's that will not play "Lovegame" since that offensive line appears throughout the song. With "Don't Trust Me" though, like you said that line can be edited out. You have to remember that WTMX is the station that passed on "U And Ur Hand" because of the sexual connotation in that song. They also passed on "I Kissed A Girl", so I highly doubt "Lovegame" will be played either, though you never know. I think "Don't Trust Me" could be played on the Mix whether or not they remove that lyric, which something tells me they would before they added it.
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 5, 2009 14:52:24 GMT -5
^Really think major difference is Don't Trust Me is rap (white Colorado rap I guess lol)...hafta go back and listen to lyrics but seems like if one lyric caused people to dislike the whole song they'd just edit out the lyric - also GaGa already has creds on lots of Hot AC stations (esp. in Canada) Hmmm...now that would be interesting. In fact, it would seem a bit more funny actually editing the lyric and either replacing it with something else or just leaving it blank. I don't know but that's just me. You know what's funny? We tried out 3Oh3! here in Kelowna (where we're currently playing the likes of Flo Rida and Soulja Boy), and despite the lyrical content of the song, the only complaints we got were in regards to a poorly edited use of the F-word. It's interesting you brought that up. Because until now, I knew they used the F-word but didn't know what the actual lyrics were and it also became misheard to me. Misheard lyric: I'm a vegetarian and I ain't f***** air to him (sounded to me like he was struggling finishing a word in the middle of the sentence LOL) Actual lyric: I'm a vegetarian and I ain't f****** scared of him So yeah, that was actually a poor effort in editing the F-word. Unusual but pretty funny that it was actually enough to spawn complaints from listeners.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 5, 2009 15:17:30 GMT -5
^Really think major difference is Don't Trust Me is rap (white Colorado rap I guess lol)...hafta go back and listen to lyrics but seems like if one lyric caused people to dislike the whole song they'd just edit out the lyric - also GaGa already has creds on lots of Hot AC stations (esp. in Canada) I think there will be a fair number of Hot AC's that will not play "Lovegame" since that offensive line appears throughout the song. With "Don't Trust Me" though, like you said that line can be edited out. You have to remember that WTMX is the station that passed on "U And Ur Hand" because of the sexual connotation in that song. They also passed on "I Kissed A Girl", so I highly doubt "Lovegame" will be played either, though you never know. I think "Don't Trust Me" could be played on the Mix whether or not they remove that lyric, which something tells me they would before they added it. Hey Musicfanpete - just realized why we're comin from different perspectives in terms of what belongs on HAC and AC (in both forums lol) - WTMX is owned by that company (Bonneville I think) that doesn't like sexual content, so TMX (and guessin other HACs) pass on songs cause of their lyrical content - I was goin by what is too "hard" for "soft rock" stations - makes perfect sense haha
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 5, 2009 15:21:06 GMT -5
^Really think major difference is Don't Trust Me is rap (white Colorado rap I guess lol)...hafta go back and listen to lyrics but seems like if one lyric caused people to dislike the whole song they'd just edit out the lyric - also GaGa already has creds on lots of Hot AC stations (esp. in Canada) Hmmm...now that would be interesting. In fact, it would seem a bit more funny actually editing the lyric and either replacing it with something else or just leaving it blank. I don't know but that's just me. Yeah tryin to think of examples and all I can think of is stations that play Get The Party Started and play "I'll be burnin rubber, you'll be kissing my ends" "Talk with your hips" doesn't seem any worse IMO than the chorus and bridge to Come On Get Higher, but maybe that's why Matt stalled around #8 I think on HAC (maybe the Bonneville HACs didn't feel right about playin it)
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Post by musicfanpete on Jun 5, 2009 17:55:52 GMT -5
Hmmm...now that would be interesting. In fact, it would seem a bit more funny actually editing the lyric and either replacing it with something else or just leaving it blank. I don't know but that's just me. Yeah tryin to think of examples and all I can think of is stations that play Get The Party Started and play "I'll be burnin rubber, you'll be kissing my ends" "Talk with your hips" doesn't seem any worse IMO than the chorus and bridge to Come On Get Higher, but maybe that's why Matt stalled around #8 I think on HAC (maybe the Bonneville HACs didn't feel right about playin it) Oh no, "Come On Get Higher" was a big hit (and still is) on the Mix. I didn't even know there was an objectionable line in that song! I think the Mix edited out the word "ends" in "Get The Party Started". But you're right atlantaboy. Because Bonneville is a Mormon owned company, and the Mix is owned by Bonneville, they have a more strict policy regarding what gets played on the air and what gets edited out. The Mix even went as far as editing out the word drug in "Rockstar"! It made for a very choppy sounding song. But other Hot AC's may have played that version too.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 5, 2009 18:24:28 GMT -5
Yeah tryin to think of examples and all I can think of is stations that play Get The Party Started and play "I'll be burnin rubber, you'll be kissing my ends" "Talk with your hips" doesn't seem any worse IMO than the chorus and bridge to Come On Get Higher, but maybe that's why Matt stalled around #8 I think on HAC (maybe the Bonneville HACs didn't feel right about playin it) Oh no, "Come On Get Higher" was a big hit (and still is) on the Mix. I didn't even know there was an objectionable line in that song! Yeah "Come on get higher, loosen my lips, faith and desire in the swing of your hips, just PULL ME DOWN HARD and drown me in love" and in bridge "I miss the pull of your heart, I taste the sparks on your tongue, I see angels and devils, and God WHEN YOU COME....." and at the end "So wrong, so wrong..." Whole song basically simulates sexual encounter from beginning to end - but guess it's not as in your face as U + Ur Hand lol When I lived in Charlotte, I remember Kiss 95.1 (the CHR) bein really conservative (it's a really Christian area) - they edited "drug" outta Rockstar, played the "ends" version of Pink, and actually were one of the only CHRs in the country not to put Gives You Hell into power (they added it after it hit #1, and dropped it a couple weeks later)
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Post by musicfanpete on Jun 5, 2009 18:38:08 GMT -5
Oh no, "Come On Get Higher" was a big hit (and still is) on the Mix. I didn't even know there was an objectionable line in that song! Yeah "Come on get higher, loosen my lips, faith and desire in the swing of your hips, just PULL ME DOWN HARD and drown me in love" and in bridge "I miss the pull of your heart, I taste the sparks on your tongue, I see angels and devils, and God WHEN YOU COME....." and at the end "So wrong, so wrong..." Whole song basically simulates sexual encounter from beginning to end - but guess it's not as in your face as U + Ur Hand lol When I lived in Charlotte, I remember Kiss 95.1 (the CHR) bein really conservative (it's a really Christian area) - they edited "drug" outta Rockstar, played the "ends" version of Pink, and actually were one of the only CHRs in the country not to put Gives You Hell into power (they added it after it hit #1, and dropped it a couple weeks later) Aah. Got it. But obviously the more "vague" the lyrics are, the easier it is to miss. That makes the lyrics more creative when trying to find the "hidden" meaning of a song.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 6, 2009 19:01:37 GMT -5
Hey just finally gave this a better listen (guess I'd never actually heard track before from beginning to end) - IMO biggest problem with this on HAC is I think a lot of women are gonna think it's sexist (which it is lol - the whole song basically) - think that's why even some CHRs have been dayparting it
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Post by Battle601 on Jun 6, 2009 20:06:53 GMT -5
Hey just finally gave this a better listen (guess I'd never actually heard track before from beginning to end) - IMO biggest problem with this on HAC is I think a lot of women are gonna think it's sexist (which it is lol - the whole song basically) - think that's why even some CHRs have been dayparting it Yeah, no kidding. If my station ever played this during middays during the workweek, I think it would be fielding many complaints from listeners who make up their key demographic.
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