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Post by The Party Captain on Jun 17, 2010 21:48:39 GMT -5
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 18, 2010 19:21:08 GMT -5
I think 429 Records is a better home for them. Their previous label did nothing to promote "Major Lodge Victory", despite having plenty of radio-friendly fodder to work with ("Heart-Shaped Locket", "Come On Hard" and "Someday Soon") all could have worked as single releases)
It's a shame what happened to them then after a decade out of the limelight, but I think they've moved onto a better label here and may, at the very least, get some minor Hot AC airplay again.
Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by The Party Captain on Jun 18, 2010 22:59:59 GMT -5
I'd think with 30 million records sold worldwide, they'd get more respect.
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Post by MostInterestingManInTheWorld on Jun 18, 2010 23:12:32 GMT -5
I like the Gin Blossoms as much as anybody, and I do respect their success, but let's face it - they had essentially all of their success in a three year period which ended in 1996. Which makes it a long shot that many stations are going to jump on them.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 19, 2010 1:55:22 GMT -5
I like the Gin Blossoms as much as anybody, and I do respect their success, but let's face it - they had essentially all of their success in a three year period which ended in 1996. Which makes it a long shot that many stations are going to jump on them. While I won't disagree with that, I do also believe that there's a sentimental streak that surrounds the band at both Hot AC and Adult Alternative gold radio that gleams brighter than most bands to have come out of the nineties...........and many listeners would certainly relish a comeback on their part. Four of their singles still get played constantly here. I bet the vast majority of listeners are even aware they re-banded, but if they did, they would be delighted. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by The Party Captain on Jun 19, 2010 13:00:45 GMT -5
On the flip side, there really isn't a sound akin to theirs that is core Hot AC anymore. AAA will pick them up like it did with Counting Crows, Dave Matthews Band, and other 90s rock bands.
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Post by Adam (UTR) on Jul 12, 2010 22:40:15 GMT -5
On first listen, I like this better than their last leadoff, "Learning The Hard Way". It'll definitely be an AAA hit, but I think it also has Hot AC potential. It kind of reminds me of "Let Love In" by the Goo Goo Dolls. If Tonic's "Release Me" could crack the top 40, this could make the top 50 with a push.
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Post by marv1978 on Jul 14, 2010 10:09:08 GMT -5
i used to love the Gin Blossims through the early to mid 90s!
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Post by The Party Captain on Jul 14, 2010 20:45:07 GMT -5
I would say Gin Blossoms could top Tonic's success and have more of a Collective Soul/Sister Hazel type recognition, because they had more hits than Tonic. However, Gin Blossoms already issued what was to be perceived as their "comeback" album. I just hope they can stay out of obscurity.
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Post by marv1978 on Jul 16, 2010 11:02:56 GMT -5
I would say Gin Blossoms could top Tonic's success and have more of a Collective Soul/Sister Hazel type recognition, because they had more hits than Tonic. However, Gin Blossoms already issued what was to be perceived as their "comeback" album. I just hope they can stay out of obscurity. I def. agree with that. I still hear "Hey, Jealousy", "Found Out About You", "Follow You Down", "Til I Hear It From You" and "Alison Road" alot! Looking forward to a good cd! :)
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Post by The Party Captain on Jul 27, 2010 17:16:42 GMT -5
This got an early add and is now up on iTunes!
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Post by Radical347 on Jul 28, 2010 0:37:31 GMT -5
I like the Gin Blossoms as much as anybody, and I do respect their success, but let's face it - they had essentially all of their success in a three year period which ended in 1996. Which makes it a long shot that many stations are going to jump on them. That, and everything they've ever released sounds exactly the same. That's why they stopped having hits after three years -- you can only get away with that for so long.
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Post by The Party Captain on Jul 28, 2010 18:16:13 GMT -5
I like the Gin Blossoms as much as anybody, and I do respect their success, but let's face it - they had essentially all of their success in a three year period which ended in 1996. Which makes it a long shot that many stations are going to jump on them. That, and everything they've ever released sounds exactly the same. Works for Maroon 5.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 29, 2010 3:00:45 GMT -5
I like the Gin Blossoms as much as anybody, and I do respect their success, but let's face it - they had essentially all of their success in a three year period which ended in 1996. Which makes it a long shot that many stations are going to jump on them. That, and everything they've ever released sounds exactly the same. That's why they stopped having hits after three years -- you can only get away with that for so long. That's not true. On "Major Lodge Victory", they made a notable shift towards the power-pop genre with lighter songs (particularly "Heart Shaped Locket", "Fool For The Taking" and "Let's Play Two") and, on the album closing "California Sun", veered toward a Beach Boys sound. Even on their two major releases preceding their long hiatus, they threw left-field tracks in the mix. "Day Job" was a notable garage rock/post-grunge sounding rocker, while "Cheatin'" leaned Country and "Memphis Time" and "I Can't Figure You Out" essentially leaning country-pop. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by The Party Captain on Jul 29, 2010 16:54:10 GMT -5
^However, "Memphis Time," "California Sun," and "I Can't Figure You Out" were quite argubly their worst tracks to date. That is the general consensus on the fansites I've been to. In fact, quite a few of the hardcore fans don't like the direction Gin Blossoms took with MLV.
I think "Miss Disarray" may have a good chance at some success. "Learning the Hard Way" just didn't sound like a Hot AC song in 2006.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 29, 2010 18:24:33 GMT -5
^However, "Memphis Time," "California Sun," and "I Can't Figure You Out" were quite argubly their worst tracks to date. That is the general consensus on the fansites I've been to. In fact, quite a few of the hardcore fans don't like the direction Gin Blossoms took with MLV. I think "Miss Disarray" may have a good chance at some success. "Learning the Hard Way" just didn't sound like a Hot AC song in 2006. I strongly agree with the above point. Those are among their weaker songs, in my opinion. Still, it doesn't negate my point that they have went with the exact same sound beginning to end each album era. As with "Major Lodge Victory" overall, I liked it better than "Congratulations I'm Sorry" as a whole. I think "Congratulations I'm Sorry" arguably had stronger individual standout moments ("Not Only Numb", "Competition Smile") but "Major Lodge Victory" was a more consistent album with plenty of satisfying moments ("Come On Hard", "Jet Black Sunrise", "Long Time Gone", "Heart Shaped Locket", "Learning The Hard Way" especially) Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by The Party Captain on Sept 14, 2010 15:34:05 GMT -5
This has been picking up adds every week. I'm starting to wonder if it will surface in the Top 50 soon.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 1, 2010 23:12:13 GMT -5
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Post by The Party Captain on Oct 3, 2010 10:30:31 GMT -5
This album has done really well so far. We'll see where it debuts, but it was #1 on Amazon for a couple days.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 3, 2010 18:25:03 GMT -5
This album has done really well so far. We'll see where it debuts, but it was #1 on Amazon for a couple days. 409 Records is certainly a better place for them to begin with, as opposed to their previous label. The former has an impressive track record in the promotion of its diverse slate of artists spite of being a minor label. To say "Major Lodge Victory" was poorly promoted would be understating it. "No Chocolate Cake" could be getting even more publicity than it has gotten, surely, but 409 Records has done a satisfactory job with regards to taking advantage of digital resources and social networking to promote the material, and the #1 ranking on Amazon is a testament to how sometimes that's all you really need to cut a break. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by erzo01 on Oct 21, 2010 8:20:51 GMT -5
Top 50 in Hot AC!
55 50 GIN BLOSSOMS Miss Disarray 182 170 12 0.241
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Oct 22, 2010 22:07:41 GMT -5
"Found Out About You" defines my sophmore year of highschool. It's a great song.
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Post by marv1978 on Oct 22, 2010 23:23:10 GMT -5
"Found Out About You" defines my sophmore year of highschool. It's a great song. loved that song too! a true classic :)
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Post by marv1978 on Oct 26, 2010 15:18:39 GMT -5
See songs like this and Alex Band's "Without You" deserve top 40 status at hot ac and then could probably keep building if it wasn't for the usual big chr misclassified hits clogging up the 30-50 zone :(
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Post by Radical347 on Oct 28, 2010 2:27:44 GMT -5
That, and everything they've ever released sounds exactly the same. Works for Maroon 5. Not quite true, as Harder to Breathe, Sunday Morning, and Won't Go Home Without You don't sound like Misery/Wake Up Call/This Love (the last which was significantly better than the previous two, despite sounding the same.) But anyway, it's not the same as Gin Blossoms have been around (and releasing the same song) WAY longer than Maroon 5. If Maroon 5 keeps it up they'll find the same fate.
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Post by Radical347 on Oct 28, 2010 2:30:21 GMT -5
That, and everything they've ever released sounds exactly the same. That's why they stopped having hits after three years -- you can only get away with that for so long. That's not true. On "Major Lodge Victory", they made a notable shift towards the power-pop genre with lighter songs (particularly "Heart Shaped Locket", "Fool For The Taking" and "Let's Play Two") and, on the album closing "California Sun", veered toward a Beach Boys sound. Even on their two major releases preceding their long hiatus, they threw left-field tracks in the mix. "Day Job" was a notable garage rock/post-grunge sounding rocker, while "Cheatin'" leaned Country and "Memphis Time" and "I Can't Figure You Out" essentially leaning country-pop. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus Were any of those released though?
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 29, 2010 1:33:33 GMT -5
That's not true. On "Major Lodge Victory", they made a notable shift towards the power-pop genre with lighter songs (particularly "Heart Shaped Locket", "Fool For The Taking" and "Let's Play Two") and, on the album closing "California Sun", veered toward a Beach Boys sound. Even on their two major releases preceding their long hiatus, they threw left-field tracks in the mix. "Day Job" was a notable garage rock/post-grunge sounding rocker, while "Cheatin'" leaned Country and "Memphis Time" and "I Can't Figure You Out" essentially leaning country-pop. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus Were any of those released though? "Day Job" was a single, yes. (despite charting poorly, including on its target Modern Rock format) Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by The Party Captain on Nov 1, 2010 14:43:45 GMT -5
See songs like this and Alex Band's "Without You" deserve top 40 status at hot ac and then could probably keep building if it wasn't for the usual big chr misclassified hits clogging up the 30-50 zone :( It's things like this that convince me that Hot AC is losing its identity.
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Post by marv1978 on Nov 1, 2010 15:55:40 GMT -5
See songs like this and Alex Band's "Without You" deserve top 40 status at hot ac and then could probably keep building if it wasn't for the usual big chr misclassified hits clogging up the 30-50 zone :( It's things like this that convince me that Hot AC is losing its identity. Me too! I think a new format or just tweaking this one would help. Getting the station formats correct with mediabase reports would do wonders. I myself think the answer would be to exclude chr misclassified stations and mix stations that don't play a top 40 playlist or any ac type hot ac that just plays select hits after they've been proven on other stations. That would keep the charts flowing, more accurate and actually move faster as well. Just find the Hot Ac's that actually add music weekly and play a top 40 and monitor them and see the results! And if Pulse XM Sirius could get monitored as well with it's audience included that would help too! The Pulse is a good example of a hot ac that adds music weekly and plays a big playlist and recurrents and stays fresh!
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