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Post by marv1978 on Jan 9, 2010 22:15:07 GMT -5
I heard on the radio that Slice will be the 2nd single, has anyone heard anything official? I would love to see this go top 10 and Above The timberline get a shot as a possible 3rd hit off a cd :)
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Post by Adam (UTR) on Jan 9, 2010 22:24:18 GMT -5
I love this, but I'm pretty sure it's gonna peak outside the top 20 when "Chances" didn't make the top 10. Then again, "World" surprised me last time when it did moderately well, so maybe it has a chance.
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Post by The Party Captain on Jan 12, 2010 16:46:25 GMT -5
Good song. Won't do well though.
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Post by marv1978 on Jan 13, 2010 15:21:44 GMT -5
Good song. Won't do well though. heard this at big lots yesterday,sounded great! way better than "chances". i'll say top 15 just cause competition is tight right now alot of great songs out and coming out! |
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 13, 2010 15:33:19 GMT -5
Predictable, but still an enjoyable song overall.
I just think Ondrasik should have switched it up with the up-tempo, bouncy and breezy "Above The Timberline", which is more radio-friendly anyway.
Sincerely,
Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by Adam (UTR) on May 20, 2010 14:58:19 GMT -5
2nd Single alert...Slice album's title track "Slice" going to radio late June...#f4f
7:52 PM May 18th via web
Well, I guess this is still happening, albeit a little later than we all expected...
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Post by singingsparrow on May 21, 2010 11:27:25 GMT -5
2nd Single alert...Slice album's title track "Slice" going to radio late June...#f4f 7:52 PM May 18th via web Well, I guess this is still happening, albeit a little later than we all expected... I suppose Ondrasik has conceded he's not going to sell many more albums, and he's fine with that, and is hoping to bank it off of successful subsequent singles. I'm wishing him the best of luck here, as I think he has an uphill battle ahead of him. It is a good sign "Chances" made it into the closing credits of "The Blind Side", regardless. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus |
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Post by The Party Captain on May 21, 2010 14:33:19 GMT -5
Well, I only have 5 songs by the man:
"Superman"
"100 Years"
"Easy Tonight"
"Chances"
"The Riddle"
I will probably pick up "I Just Love You" eventually, but I don't know if I would shell out $10-15 for an entire album of his stuff. It's a bit soft for me. I would probably buy an album of his if I knew there were going to be other songs like "Easy Tonight" with a little guitar-driven edge to them.
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Post by singingsparrow on May 23, 2010 0:25:34 GMT -5
Well, I only have 5 songs by the man: "Superman" "100 Years" "Easy Tonight" "Chances" "The Riddle" I will probably pick up "I Just Love You" eventually, but I don't know if I would shell out $10-15 for an entire album of his stuff. It's a bit soft for me. I would probably buy an album of his if I knew there were going to be other songs like "Easy Tonight" with a little guitar-driven edge to them. I understand how you feel about his albums, as I wish he'd toe the line between guitar and the piano as he did on "Americatown" (which he doesn't do much at all anymore) That said, he has some other outstanding album tracks I highly recommend you listen to. The title tracks to "Americatown" and "Two Lights" are excellent, as is "The Devil in the Wishing Well", "Augie Nieto" and "The Last Great American" in particular. If you simply want to hear more of a rock sound, even while I feel the songwriting isn't as sharp on the following songs you'll find that sound nonetheless on "Boat Parade" (Ondrasik really rocks out on that one), the title track to "Americatown" (which is also well-written) and "Infidel". Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus |
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Post by The Party Captain on May 25, 2010 10:10:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the recommendations. They have seriously reconsidering him now.
Having given this song more listens, I think this will do better than "Chances." The songwriting and the hooks are stronger on this one. This one should resurrect this album.
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Post by singingsparrow on May 25, 2010 22:56:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the recommendations. They have seriously reconsidering him now. Having given this song more listens, I think this will do better than "Chances." The songwriting and the hooks are stronger on this one. This one should resurrect this album. I'd have to disagree, because I think "Chances" resonates more on a lyrical level. Ondrasik is more of a lyrical artist than a musician. He plays it safe musically, but tries to stretch himself in his songwriting and aims to let the words stand out in the forefront. And I believe the reason why his three first lead singles were hits in one way or another were because they were most accessible in spite of sounding wiser and more philosophical than your average pop song. "Chances" is of the same cloth, but I think it underperformed simply because Five For Fighting is a singles artist and has never sold many albums and it was inevitable his clout would decline. Even so, the lyrics hit home on summoning the will to put your heart into another person's heart, regardless of the outcome and chance. "Slice" has its appeal too, surely, but I don't find it quite as universal in its accessibility. The second verse, for instance, is a bit of a mess, with the "Have you read my blog today, 'Three Hundred Million Little USAs"? couplet and so forth. I get the point he's making there, in how we've become obsessed over a compartmentalized mode of living and his yearning to preserve some of that simple community spirit collectively as a nation, but I feel it loses momentum there, despite the strong first verse. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus |
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Post by The Party Captain on May 26, 2010 11:35:10 GMT -5
I will agree with you that Chances is more accessible lyrically. I simply find the chorus of Slice to be catchier than "Chances are ______________"
We shall see.
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Post by Adam (UTR) on May 28, 2010 9:22:20 GMT -5
Official adds date is now July 12 for Hot AC according to AllAccess.
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Post by The Party Captain on Jul 9, 2010 19:14:25 GMT -5
There's a big ad for it on AllAccess and apparently, it's going to CHR as well.
I found out why this took so long to get released. Ondrasik left Columbia. He's with Wind-up now. It probably took a year to sort all that out.
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Post by The Party Captain on Jul 27, 2010 17:15:34 GMT -5
I saw this got 6 adds the first week, 3 adds the second week, and now 6 this week.
* KSCF-FM
* KURB-FM
* KVUU-FM
* KYKY-FM
* WCDA-FM
* WTIC-FM
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Post by erzo01 on Aug 4, 2010 6:11:13 GMT -5
Top 50 in Hot AC!
55 50 FIVE FOR FIGHTING Slice 165 125 40 0.624
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Post by singingsparrow on Aug 4, 2010 14:54:59 GMT -5
Top 50 in Hot AC! 55 50 FIVE FOR FIGHTING Slice 165 125 40 0.624 I just don't see this coming even close to the scope of a hit many are predicting this will be on Hot AC. It's radio-friendly, but not as accessible as "Chances", and "Chances" fell short of the levels of previous lead single successes. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus |
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Post by marv1978 on Aug 4, 2010 20:58:42 GMT -5
Top 50 in Hot AC! 55 50 FIVE FOR FIGHTING Slice 165 125 40 0.624 I just don't see this coming even close to the scope of a hit many are predicting this will be on Hot AC. It's radio-friendly, but not as accessible as "Chances", and "Chances" fell short of the levels of previous lead single successes. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus i still predict top 10, chances was great,label wasn't promting it so he left for a lable that will. it's still early,the cd gets re-released in September,it'll blow up in the fall! |
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Post by The Party Captain on Aug 4, 2010 23:10:03 GMT -5
Top 50 in Hot AC! 55 50 FIVE FOR FIGHTING Slice 165 125 40 0.624 I just don't see this coming even close to the scope of a hit many are predicting this will be on Hot AC. It's radio-friendly, but not as accessible as "Chances", and "Chances" fell short of the levels of previous lead single successes. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus The Hot AC audience is an audience at odds with the current music climate. They've been backed into a corner. Every year, there seems to be less and less pop rock crossovers. Hot AC is the only safe haven for people who don't want to listen to hiphop or country all day now. I've talked to so many people frustrated with how they hear so much Lady Gaga and cheap auto-tune. If this were any other Five For Fighting song, it would fail. That's why "Chances" flopped. However, the subject matter (Hey, man, sing a song/We were everyone/we were more than just a slice of american pie) is aimed DIRECTLY at the Hot AC audience. It's a refreshing memory of a time (not too long ago) when pop rock was ubiquitous and music actually had a message other than "Hey, you're hot. Let's make babies." That is why this will succeed. "Chances" was just another love song. |
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Post by marv1978 on Aug 5, 2010 21:29:33 GMT -5
I just don't see this coming even close to the scope of a hit many are predicting this will be on Hot AC. It's radio-friendly, but not as accessible as "Chances", and "Chances" fell short of the levels of previous lead single successes. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus The Hot AC audience is an audience at odds with the current music climate. They've been backed into a corner. Every year, there seems to be less and less pop rock crossovers. Hot AC is the only safe haven for people who don't want to listen to hiphop or country all day now. I've talked to so many people frustrated with how they hear so much Lady Gaga and cheap auto-tune. If this were any other Five For Fighting song, it would fail. That's why "Chances" flopped. However, the subject matter (Hey, man, sing a song/We were everyone/we were more than just a slice of american pie) is aimed DIRECTLY at the Hot AC audience. It's a refreshing memory of a time (not too long ago) when pop rock was ubiquitous and music actually had a message other than "Hey, you're hot. Let's make babies." That is why this will succeed. "Chances" was just another love song. i totally agree!! 100% :) |
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Post by singingsparrow on Aug 5, 2010 21:44:34 GMT -5
I just don't see this coming even close to the scope of a hit many are predicting this will be on Hot AC. It's radio-friendly, but not as accessible as "Chances", and "Chances" fell short of the levels of previous lead single successes. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus The Hot AC audience is an audience at odds with the current music climate. They've been backed into a corner. Every year, there seems to be less and less pop rock crossovers. Hot AC is the only safe haven for people who don't want to listen to hiphop or country all day now. I've talked to so many people frustrated with how they hear so much Lady Gaga and cheap auto-tune. If this were any other Five For Fighting song, it would fail. That's why "Chances" flopped. However, the subject matter (Hey, man, sing a song/We were everyone/we were more than just a slice of american pie) is aimed DIRECTLY at the Hot AC audience. It's a refreshing memory of a time (not too long ago) when pop rock was ubiquitous and music actually had a message other than "Hey, you're hot. Let's make babies." That is why this will succeed. "Chances" was just another love song. By that logic, Uncle Kracker's "Good To Be Me" would have been a sure-fire smash in that it name-drops a #1 hit by the Temptations and John Coltrane, and boasts of how his phone isn't blowing up................yet it wasn't. I don't think "Slice" will be a hit for two reasons: 1) Ondrasik had little going for him to begin with after "Two Lights" failed to hold its own like his previous two albums were able to do off emotionally-compelling hit lead singles, thus Columbia Records felt little incentive to keep pushing him in earnest and thus hurt "Chances", and 2) the second verse is going to lose some listeners, as it details what "Slice" is really about in the broader sense......................Ondrasik's lamentation of an increasingly compartmentalized, isolated world where social capital is dwindling and we're taking for granted an appreciation of community due to our over-reliance on modern technology and distrust of our own neighbors. I happen to think this song is a home run from Ondrasik, and mostly because the second verse really hits me emotionally.......................but only because I tend to overthink and scratch beneath the surface of songs, while others will sing along to the first verse and chorus then suddenly say "Huh?" once they get to the second verse. It's sad, but the verse is too meaty for a culture that continues to accelerate while many attention spans continue to shorten. I actually think, if anything, it's the AC format that's most at odds with the current music climate (in the musical sense, but not so much the homogenized playlist and lack of variety sense). It's a shame very few singles tend to make it big on the format these days, but when they do it's a homage to the influences of the past. Hot AC, to me anyway, seems to be to Top 40 Mainstream what Adult Alternative is to Alternative................very accepting of a lot of the current pop scene, with more of an air of maturity to it. Even so, Hot AC is becoming increasingly flooded with American Idol-affiliated releases and Lady Gaga. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus |
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Post by The Party Captain on Aug 6, 2010 19:29:46 GMT -5
"Good to be Me" has no similarity to this one. "Slice" is a song about getting back to the world of olden days. It is not name-dropping "Slice" makes it win. When you listen to "Slice," you compare the 1970s world of rock 'n' roll and community with today's world of Facebook and Autotune.
"Good to be Me" is more likely to be a hit on Country. It's bears more resemblance to "Chicken Fried." It also didn't smash because for some reason, "Smile" is still flying high everywhere else.
It's got a catchy chorus, an actual message, and the perfect chord progression. It can't lose. It's getting plenty of adds.
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Post by atlantaboy on Aug 6, 2010 21:27:24 GMT -5
Don't understand how this can have a run anywhere near the one Chances did cause it's not even Top 40 yet and it went for adds weeks ago
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Post by erzo01 on Aug 7, 2010 9:54:36 GMT -5
Top 50 in Triple A!
73 50 FIVE FOR FIGHTING Slice 51 28 23 0.093
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Post by marv1978 on Aug 7, 2010 15:55:53 GMT -5
Don't understand how this can have a run anywhere near the one Chances did cause it's not even Top 40 yet and it went for adds weeks ago i'd still bet a thousand dollars this smashes in september/october depending on the timing of wats out around it will determine its peak but whether it goes top5 or top 15, it'll be on the charts for a while. My mom and dad love it, my wife loves it and my younger cousin who's 17 loves it. it's just music to the teens u think they actually look as deep into lyrices as adults lol. it's a hit! |
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Post by singingsparrow on Aug 7, 2010 19:27:17 GMT -5
Don't understand how this can have a run anywhere near the one Chances did cause it's not even Top 40 yet and it went for adds weeks ago i'd still bet a thousand dollars this smashes in september/october depending on the timing of wats out around it will determine its peak but whether it goes top5 or top 15, it'll be on the charts for a while. My mom and dad love it, my wife loves it and my younger cousin who's 17 loves it. it's just music to the teens u think they actually look as deep into lyrices as adults lol. it's a hit! I'll call your bet and raise you five thousand! ;) I really do hope I'm proven wrong, in all honesty. This song is just damn solid lyrically. I'm just quite sure it won't become a hit on either the Adult Top 40 or Top 40 Mainstream because I believe it's too meaty and intelligent for mainstream radio, and because John Ondrasik has lost commercial momentum. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus |
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Post by marv1978 on Aug 7, 2010 20:50:49 GMT -5
i'd still bet a thousand dollars this smashes in september/october depending on the timing of wats out around it will determine its peak but whether it goes top5 or top 15, it'll be on the charts for a while. My mom and dad love it, my wife loves it and my younger cousin who's 17 loves it. it's just music to the teens u think they actually look as deep into lyrices as adults lol. it's a hit! I'll call your bet and raise you five thousand! ;) I really do hope I'm proven wrong, in all honesty. This song is just damn solid lyrically. I'm just quite sure it won't become a hit on either the Adult Top 40 or Top 40 Mainstream because I believe it's too meaty and intelligent for mainstream radio, and because John Ondrasik has lost commercial momentum. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus You may be right,but ever since i was a kid like 7 or 8 i could hear a song once and tell u if it was a hit b4 it ended and my gut says "HIT" and i may be wrong, but i haft to stick to my guns on what i hold sacred and passionate,that is that a great song will always find it's way somehow! lol maybe i'm old school but i love today's music as much as anyone! Passion for great songs leaps generation gaps :) |
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Post by erzo01 on Aug 15, 2010 7:03:07 GMT -5
Top 40 in Hot AC!
45 40 FIVE FOR FIGHTING Slice 278 219 59 1.087
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Post by erzo01 on Sept 2, 2010 23:51:10 GMT -5
Top 40 in Triple A!
58 39 FIVE FOR FIGHTING Slice 69 40 29 0.188
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