Shinedown "Second Chance"

[atlantaboy]

Hey almost positive this is gonna be a Hot AC hit in the future (couldn't post it in CHR cause it doesn't have adds date, but pretty sure it's gonna be big over there too)

Not sure how I Dare You did on HAC, but with so many HAC's playin Rise Above This by Seether, seems like they're def. ready for this track

[PHOBES]

So this has a HAC adds date? I hope this explodes here, I wonder if they're still considering a video for it.

It seems commonplace now for rock bands to send their ballads off to HAC. You mentioned "Rise Above This", Puddle of Mudd's "We Don't Have to Look Back Now" is doing better here than at either rock format, Theory of a Deadman is on the charts with "Not Meant to Be," and Avenged Sevenfold just sent "Dear God" for adds. Not to mention the latest from Linkin Park, Safetysuit, and Hinder.

[Ragin]

Did Nickelback pave the way for this, or was it 3 Doors down?

[PHOBES]

If you mean rock songs in general hitting this chart, then it's probably 3DD. If you mean SOUTHERN rock songs, then it's definitely 3DD.

[atlantaboy]

Nov 5, 2008 22:58:33 GMT -5 PHOBES said:

So this has a HAC adds date? I hope this explodes here, I wonder if they're still considering a video for it.

Actually no clue if it has an adds date lol...(that's why I couldn't put up thread for it on CHR) - just got the feelin it's gonna cross over pretty soon, esp. to HACs that're lookin for more rock product

[atlantaboy]

Nov 6, 2008 21:59:23 GMT -5 Ragin said:

Did Nickelback pave the way for this, or was it 3 Doors down?

The first core "rock" band IMO that I remember crossin over to Hot AC (and bein really surprised by it) was Staind with It's Been A While - just remember thinkin it sounded really weird (at first) on Hot AC back then - prob. followed by Blurry by Puddle Of Mudd

IMO Kryptonite was pretty pop/rock, and How You Remind Me was so ridiculously huge that HAC had to play it

Some HACs played In The End by Linkin Park and Bring Me To Life by Evanescence, but pretty sure others completely avoided those songs back then

[mrclimbfall20]

Nov 8, 2008 17:56:59 GMT -5 atlantaboy said:

Nov 6, 2008 21:59:23 GMT -5 Ragin said:

Did Nickelback pave the way for this, or was it 3 Doors down?

The first core "rock" band IMO that I remember crossin over to Hot AC (and bein really surprised by it) was Staind with It's Been A While - just remember thinkin it sounded really weird (at first) on Hot AC back then - prob. followed by Blurry by Puddle Of Mudd

IMO Kryptonite was pretty pop/rock, and How You Remind Me was so ridiculously huge that HAC had to play it

Some HACs played In The End by Linkin Park and Bring Me To Life by Evanescence, but pretty sure others completely avoided those songs back then

"Hanging By A Moment" by Lifehouse was stuck somewhere in between there haha

[atlantaboy]

^Oh yeah def. but they turned out to be pretty pop/rock...rememberin DJ's comparin them to Matchbox 20 (even though HBAM and Sick Cycle Carousel were almost cutting-edge rock, guess their first CD as a whole was still pretty HAC)

[Battle601]

Now Top 50 on Hot AC and about time, really. I hope it receives its same share of success like recent rock songs that have done well in this format like "Addicted" and "Not Meant to Be" (close to reaching Top 30).

[fran182]

Feb 24, 2009 21:20:20 GMT -5 Battle601 said:

Now Top 50 on Hot AC and about time, really. I hope it receives its same share of success like recent rock songs that have done well in this format like "Addicted" and "Not Meant to Be" (close to reaching Top 30).

:)

62 49 SHINEDOWN Second Chance 167 93 74 1.026

9 stations playing.

I think it will reach top 20 for sure.

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

nice to see shinedown in here too

[mrclimbfall20]

Feb 24, 2009 21:20:20 GMT -5 Battle601 said:

Now Top 50 on Hot AC and about time, really. I hope it receives its same share of success like recent rock songs that have done well in this format like "Addicted" and "Not Meant to Be" (close to reaching Top 30).

You'd think it would do better than those songs since it seems like a typical Hot AC song, whereas "Addicted" and "Not Meant to Be" are a little more rock than the typical Hot AC song.

[Young Money]

I love the chorus for this song!

[atlantaboy]

Feb 26, 2009 1:23:57 GMT -5 mrclimbfall20 said:

Feb 24, 2009 21:20:20 GMT -5 Battle601 said:

Now Top 50 on Hot AC and about time, really. I hope it receives its same share of success like recent rock songs that have done well in this format like "Addicted" and "Not Meant to Be" (close to reaching Top 30).

You'd think it would do better than those songs since it seems like a typical Hot AC song, whereas "Addicted" and "Not Meant to Be" are a little more rock than the typical Hot AC song.

Addicted seems more pop though IMO (the lyrics I guess)...thinkin this is gonna have a much harder time on HAC esp. since pretty sure I Dare You did better on CHR

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

wow, this song looks like that it will give to their career a different status

[mrclimbfall20]

Feb 28, 2009 17:34:41 GMT -5 atlantaboy said:

Feb 26, 2009 1:23:57 GMT -5 mrclimbfall20 said:

You'd think it would do better than those songs since it seems like a typical Hot AC song, whereas "Addicted" and "Not Meant to Be" are a little more rock than the typical Hot AC song.

Addicted seems more pop though IMO (the lyrics I guess)...thinkin this is gonna have a much harder time on HAC esp. since pretty sure I Dare You did better on CHR

That surprises me about I Dare You. It fix better here than on pop.

[mrclimbfall20]

Mar 1, 2009 6:17:07 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

wow, this song looks like that it will give to their career a different status

What do you mean exactly?

[mrclimbfall20]

51 44 SHINEDOWN Second Chance 234 164 70 1.357

There are 11 stations playing this song now with Detroit and Cincinnati adding it with a bullet of 20+ on both stations.

[atlantaboy]

^Thinkin if this is really big on CHR it could slowly build on Hot AC...it's def. got the longevity thing goin for it on the Rock Formats, so assumin it's got really low burn - prob. with I Dare You (esp. on HAC I think) is that it burned too quickly

[fran182]

Today, it reached top 40 on Mediabase Hot AC:

44 40 SHINEDOWN Second Chance 284 223 61 1.552

28 stations playing.

[mrclimbfall20]

Mar 20, 2009 15:04:23 GMT -5 atlantaboy said:

^Thinkin if this is really big on CHR it could slowly build on Hot AC...it's def. got the longevity thing goin for it on the Rock Formats, so assumin it's got really low burn - prob. with I Dare You (esp. on HAC I think) is that it burned too quickly

This song deserves to reach at least the top 10 in my opinion haha

[mrclimbfall20]

42 34 SHINEDOWN Second Chance 456 262 194 2.024

That's a decent sized bullet!

[mrclimbfall20]

34 21 SHINEDOWN Second Chance 726 526 200 3.138

It has the 3rd biggest bullet too.

[atlantaboy]

^Yeah this is doin so well on CHR it's def. IMO gonna be a big HAC hit...lookin like its' gonne be the biggest Rock crossover in a long time on both CHR and HAC - could be the next Higher by Creed

[mrclimbfall20]

Ah yeah I just looked at the CHR chart and it's doing a lot better than I thought it would do there.

[fran182]

Today, it reached top 20 on Mediabase Hot AC:

21 20 SHINEDOWN Second Chance 1092 799 293 4.474

65 stations playing.

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

it's on the road to become one of the biggest rock hits of the century so far

[atlantaboy]

^Yeah agreed...IMO Higher, In The End, Meant To Live, Scars, and now this one...

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

and many more...

[JCMF3]

Apr 24, 2009 16:19:10 GMT -5 atlantaboy said:

^Yeah agreed...IMO Higher, In The End, Meant To Live, Scars, and now this one...

I just don't consider Scars as one of the biggest rock hits of the decade. Not in the same league as Higher, With Arms Wide Open, Kryptonite, or In The End.