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Post by mrclimbfall20 on May 11, 2009 16:31:56 GMT -5
Def. likin this the more I hear it...IMO at least headed Top 3, guess it depends on competition It's biggest competitor right now is "Second Chance" by Shinedown. Right now SC has a bigger bullet than HD somehow.
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Post by Rumors on May 11, 2009 17:10:38 GMT -5
Yeah, it's bullet is below 400 now. I would say the stations that support Rob and MB20 have added the song. The ones that are leaning more pop will be the question mark. Rob just doesn't have the exposure to compete with AI so I expect Daughtry to leapfrog this song at some point. Plus, have you guys seen all the acts on HotAC right now from the same label, Atlantic. It's unreal. Who is the priority on HotAC?
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Post by atlantaboy on May 11, 2009 20:51:53 GMT -5
Rob just doesn't have the exposure to compete with AI Thinkin this might affect CHR, but Hot AC is def. less about pop TV exposure and much more about straight callout...also I think a lot of CHRs will leave Rob off their playlists (rather than Daughtry), IMO favoring Rob on Hot AC Also pretty sure there are a lot of HACs that are gonna be reluctant to put Shinedown into power, so my bet's on Rob for #1
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2009 16:53:43 GMT -5
Almost top 10:
13 11 ROB THOMAS Her Diamonds Atlantic 2009 1967 1650 317
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 6:13:38 GMT -5
Hot AC - Top 10!:
12 10 ROB THOMAS Her Diamonds Atlantic 2009 2123 1840 283
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Post by Rumors on May 19, 2009 4:50:33 GMT -5
www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradio/charts.asp?format=3&showyear=y&dpt=n#9 and the spin increase is looking a little stronger since two more stations have added the song. :) I don't know if it will hit #1 but it's definitely top 5 bound. Another thing I'm liking about the chart. Shinedown is about ready to pass Nickleback. Shinedown has the much stronger song of the two. I look for it to be the next #1 on the format. It may actually stay there awhile preventing Rob and Nickleback both from hitting #1.
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Post by Rumors on May 19, 2009 20:44:04 GMT -5
A little off-topic but I found this interesting. Here's a list of Rob/MB20 songs that have received radio play (any format) over the past 7 days. First number is audience impression and the second number is total spins (all formats). Probably about 99% of the spins are on AC, HotAC, and pop. Listed by audience impression.
Unwell 8.564 (1249) - album MTYTYA Lonely No More 7.985 (1097) - album STB Smooth 7.976 (1252) - album Santana If You're Gone 6.272 (894) - album Mad Season 3am 5.525 (866) - album YOSLY How Far We've Come 2.531 (546) Ever The Same 2.427 (522) Streetcorner Symphony 2.363 (487) Push 1.865 (393) Little Wonders 1.75 (331) Bright Lights 1.13 (198) Bent 1.128 (258) These Hard Times .898 (195) Real World .711 (212) Back To Good .601 (152) TIHAHB .374 (87) Mad Season .093 (26) Long Day .064 (17) Disease .037 (19)
Total 52.294 (8,801)
In contrast here are the rolling stats for Her Diamonds. 17.29 (3,772)
It's very interesting to see what songs have actually stood up over time on the radio. The first five songs stand out. Looks like there's one song from each of Rob's/MB20's albums.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 20, 2009 13:52:37 GMT -5
^Wow who's playin Long Day? (Kinda jealous...)
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Post by Rumors on May 21, 2009 19:27:37 GMT -5
Up to #8. The Shinedown song is doing really well and I think it deserves a few weeks at #1 before "Her Diamonds" turn. Of course, Nickelback may stand in the way but I don't think this song is as good or popular as the hits the group had on their last album. I know the album is still selling really well but maybe their songs aren't quite reacting on radio (HotAC) like they did the past few years. Also, Daughtry's song isn't flying up the chart as much as I would have expected. I haven't heard that song yet.
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Post by atlantaboy on May 21, 2009 19:37:20 GMT -5
Also, Daughtry's song isn't flying up the chart as much as I would have expected. I haven't heard that song yet. Can't say this on the CHR board anymore (cause Daughtry fans are so pumped up about the new single...def. not a bad thing lol) but really don't think the new Daughtry track is that great - really kinda worried about Chris's fans gettin let down esp. on CHR in the next couple months IMO Her Diamonds (and Second Chance) are much better songs...
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Post by NORTHCOAST on May 21, 2009 22:39:33 GMT -5
Rob is going to be on Ellen on Friday May 22nd. Got it DVR'd. :)
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Post by jmason on May 23, 2009 19:25:19 GMT -5
Yeah neat to know which songs have lasted, too bad most of my favorites, Real World, Back To Good, & Mad Season are all near the bottom.
Probally the most played artist on HOT AC. Probally AC as well. No idea who would be the AC champ. Celine is kind of getting old school some AC stations.
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Post by Rumors on May 23, 2009 19:48:36 GMT -5
Probally the most played artist on HOT AC. Probally AC as well. Probably why my guess is Rob is a very wealthy man. He received royalties on 8,800 spins in just one week. When did MB20 start breaking big with Push? Spring 1997? So for about 12 years Rob has been raking in the music publishing royalties. Hope the trend continues for a few more years at least.
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Post by NORTHCOAST on May 23, 2009 22:04:43 GMT -5
A little off-topic but I found this interesting. Here's a list of Rob/MB20 songs that have received radio play (any format) over the past 7 days. First number is audience impression and the second number is total spins (all formats). Probably about 99% of the spins are on AC, HotAC, and pop. Listed by audience impression. Unwell 8.564 (1249) - album MTYTYA Lonely No More 7.985 (1097) - album STB Smooth 7.976 (1252) - album Santana If You're Gone 6.272 (894) - album Mad Season 3am 5.525 (866) - album YOSLY How Far We've Come 2.531 (546) Ever The Same 2.427 (522) Streetcorner Symphony 2.363 (487) Push 1.865 (393) Little Wonders 1.75 (331) Bright Lights 1.13 (198) Bent 1.128 (258) These Hard Times .898 (195) Real World .711 (212) Back To Good .601 (152) TIHAHB .374 (87) Mad Season .093 (26) Long Day .064 (17) Disease .037 (19) Total 52.294 (8,801) In contrast here are the rolling stats for Her Diamonds. 17.29 (3,772) It's very interesting to see what songs have actually stood up over time on the radio. The first five songs stand out. Looks like there's one song from each of Rob's/MB20's albums. Interesting info. Thanks for posting it. Does this mean the Tabitha's Secret guys are getting royalties for 3AM? And those guys that Rob added as co-writers on TIHAHB too? And Itaal Shur must be pretty well off too for co-writing Smooth. I've always wondered what the percentage split was on that hit.
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Post by blurple on Jun 1, 2009 7:45:59 GMT -5
WTMX is sponsoring an invitation only Rob Thomas event!
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Post by Kai on Jun 1, 2009 16:25:36 GMT -5
A little off-topic but I found this interesting. Here's a list of Rob/MB20 songs that have received radio play (any format) over the past 7 days. First number is audience impression and the second number is total spins (all formats). Probably about 99% of the spins are on AC, HotAC, and pop. Listed by audience impression. Unwell 8.564 (1249) - album MTYTYA Lonely No More 7.985 (1097) - album STB Smooth 7.976 (1252) - album Santana If You're Gone 6.272 (894) - album Mad Season 3am 5.525 (866) - album YOSLY How Far We've Come 2.531 (546) Ever The Same 2.427 (522) Streetcorner Symphony 2.363 (487) Push 1.865 (393) Little Wonders 1.75 (331) Bright Lights 1.13 (198) Bent 1.128 (258) These Hard Times .898 (195) Real World .711 (212) Back To Good .601 (152) TIHAHB .374 (87) Mad Season .093 (26) Long Day .064 (17) Disease .037 (19) Total 52.294 (8,801) In contrast here are the rolling stats for Her Diamonds. 17.29 (3,772) It's very interesting to see what songs have actually stood up over time on the radio. The first five songs stand out. Looks like there's one song from each of Rob's/MB20's albums. Interesting info. Thanks for posting it. Does this mean the Tabitha's Secret guys are getting royalties for 3AM? And those guys that Rob added as co-writers on TIHAHB too? And Itaal Shur must be pretty well off too for co-writing Smooth. I've always wondered what the percentage split was on that hit. Yeah, my sources tell me the Tabitha's Secret guys make a very nice income every month thanks to Rob Thomas, all for being in the right place at the right time with a very young and naive songwriter. Matt Serletic, Shur, and whoever else Thomas will share songwriting credit with also rake it in. Something tells me that the reason the songs on EOM were written together is because the matchbox guys desperately needed some of that publishing income. It's just my opinion but I think Thomas is the much better songwriter and he was basically being a good guy by agreeing to the collaboration.
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Post by Rumors on Jun 1, 2009 17:08:27 GMT -5
Rob replied the other day to a twitter who said his music sucked. Rob said those songs had made him millions. LOL! Yeah, Rob is a heck of a writer. I can't wait to hear all of Someday. I just hope it ends a little better than Her Diamonds. I think if Rob didn't have his solo career that he would not have agreed to songwriting by committee by Matchbox Twenty. Depending on what you believe to be the truth, two guys in the band weren't going to continue with the band if they didn't get to write. So...for better or worse, there you have it. He obviously wanted to keep the band together. Songwriting and the money that goes to the writers are probably the biggest reasons why bands break up. Of course, in Rob's case, Atlantic Records offered him a deal by himself or with a couple guys from Tabitha's Secret. I wonder how things would have turned out if Rob had elected to go the solo route. He could have done something like Daughtry. I'm sure the other guys in Daughtry (the band) are hired musicians at the end of the day.
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Post by Ragin on Jun 3, 2009 6:37:46 GMT -5
This song has really grown on me a lot. Great song, AND more importantly it actually does stand out from his more recent songs. I am actually hoping for some CHR love for this song. I see #1 on this format for sure.
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Post by Gravity. on Jun 3, 2009 20:42:43 GMT -5
This WILL be a number one on HAC. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind about it. I like this song, and then the choir comes in. It seems way too dramatic and out of place in my opinion. It messes up what would other wise be flawless.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 3, 2009 21:38:03 GMT -5
This WILL be a number one on HAC. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind about it. Definitely IMO...also think it's gonna keep chuggin along on CHR cause I think it's a really well-made song that's not gonna burn for months - I know Cumulus CHRs play Rob automatically, but this time around they have him in power - way bigger on Cumulus than any Rob track since Lonely No More
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Post by Kai on Jun 8, 2009 11:43:44 GMT -5
#5 on Hot AC!
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Post by Kai on Jun 17, 2009 19:57:38 GMT -5
There's going to be a lot of Rob Thomas on the radio over the next year.
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Post by Rumors on Jun 22, 2009 20:29:11 GMT -5
#3. How many top 5s does that give Rob on this format?
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Post by Hot AC Archiver on Jun 22, 2009 21:16:58 GMT -5
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Post by Rumors on Jun 23, 2009 14:07:44 GMT -5
^ | 9 with MB20, 1 with Santana, 6 solo: total of 16 Thanks. I know that tops the list for artists. When was the first HotAC chart? 1994?
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Post by Hot AC Archiver on Jun 23, 2009 14:55:29 GMT -5
^ | 9 with MB20, 1 with Santana, 6 solo: total of 16 Thanks. I know that tops the list for artists. When was the first HotAC chart? 1994? Yes, April 1994.
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Post by Rumors on Jul 14, 2009 5:14:46 GMT -5
Does this still have a chance at #1 or are there just too many HotAC stations that aren't that Rob friendly?
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Post by No Brake$ on Jul 14, 2009 11:59:25 GMT -5
No, it just won't catch Pink or Shinedown. Hot AC stations are as friendly to Rob as the church is to Jesus, come on Rumors.
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Post by Rumors on Jul 14, 2009 16:55:44 GMT -5
No, it just won't catch Pink or Shinedown. Hot AC stations are as friendly to Rob as the church is to Jesus, come on Rumors. LOL! Well, there are a few Hot AC stations out there that do lean more pop. I wonder where Her Diamonds is on the playlist on Cincinnati's HotAC. I don't have a link to that kind of information anymore. It's going to be close. I think Rob might peak at #2. Probably pass Nickleback before Pink passes him. Then Rob will fall back to #3. Rob is 400 spins from #1. Yeah, I don't see that happening with Her Diamonds. lw TW Artist Title - Click Graphic for 12-Week Airplay Trends Label TW lw Move On TW lw +/- 1 1 1 SHINEDOWN Second Chance Atlantic 2008 3766 3663 103 90 41.4 40.3 +1.1 2 2 2 NICKELBACK If Today Was Your La... Atlantic/Roadrunner/RRP 2008 3432 3313 119 88 38.6 37.2 +1.3 3 3 3 ROB THOMAS Her Diamonds Emblem/Atlantic 2009 3361 3099 262 88 38.2 35.2 +3.0 4 4 4 PINK Please Don't Leave M... LaFace/JLG 2009 3222 2921 301 86 37.0 33.6 +3.5
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