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Post by erzo01 on Jul 17, 2009 22:51:30 GMT -5
Now @ #2 in Hot AC! 3 2 ROB THOMAS Her Diamonds 3436 3166 270 18.127
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2009 10:07:54 GMT -5
Hopefully it can take the number one position before P!nk does...
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Post by NORTHCOAST on Jul 18, 2009 13:54:42 GMT -5
Hopefully it can take the number one position before P!nk does... This move really surprised me. I didn't think iHer Diamonds could have a shot at #1 but now it seems to. Hope it makes it!
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Post by crazyfun1 on Jul 19, 2009 18:58:21 GMT -5
I am so psyched! I just got my 2 tickets in the mail today for Robs solo show here in St. Louis on Halloween. I have the Orchestra section for my seats :)
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Post by No Brake$ on Jul 20, 2009 9:22:32 GMT -5
This song is 95% likely to go #1, will remain there for a few weeks, and probably not go recurrent for a long time. I really will be shocked if Meltdown doesn't get a release within a few weeks and it seriously would take no longer than a month for that song to be in the Top 10. Actually, I think Meltdown would do just as well as HD, and on POP even outpeak HD.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 20, 2009 14:25:11 GMT -5
This song is 95% likely to go #1, will remain there for a few weeks, and probably not go recurrent for a long time. I really will be shocked if Meltdown doesn't get a release within a few weeks and it seriously would take no longer than a month for that song to be in the Top 10. Actually, I think Meltdown would do just as well as HD, and on POP even outpeak HD. I'm going to have to disagree with you here. From what I see, if "This Is How A Heart Breaks" had a significantly inferior chart run to both "Lonely No More" and "Ever The Same" during his debut era, then I can't see "Give Me The Meltdown" eclipsing "Her Diamonds". Also, although I like the song, I have no clue what "Give Me The Meltdown" is about. Many listeners will hear this track, find the "feed your monkey" and "your monkey's dead" lyrics amusing, move their heads to the frenetic beat for about two months..............and then, they'll move on. The reason Rob Thomas (and matchbox twenty) have stood the tests of time commercially is because Thomas is BOTH an accomplished songwriter AND has a distinctive, emotive voice. Singer-songwriters who enjoy both these qualities are few and far between today on Top 40 radio, and often the reason many middle-of-the-road artists fail, or else only make an impact one album era, is because they only have one quality or the other, or else may have grave inconsistencies in their songwriting and vocal stylings. That said, Thomas is especially formidable because he writes songs people can connect or relate to on an emotional level. But despite the track being catchy, what separates catchy songs that become hits from catchy songs that lack staying power or get lost in the shuffle entirely is either how well some songs emote more than others, or how the song fits the musical zeitgeist. I don't see "Give Me The Meltdown" accomplishing either, and though it'll likely go Top Ten if released just because it's a Rob Thomas song, I think it would have a much shorter chart run compared to the rest of his catalog. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Rumors on Jul 24, 2009 23:11:23 GMT -5
It was close but it looks like Pink will pass Rob tomorrow before he gets to #1. In all honesty, though, this song did better on the HotAC chart than I originally thought it might. #2 peak is nothing to take lightly! Congrats to Rob.
BTW, there's a pretty revealing article on Rob in the next Rolling Stone issue (Michael Jackson is on the cover).
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Post by No Brake$ on Jul 25, 2009 12:00:20 GMT -5
It's a real tight race for #1 on Hot AC this week. I don't think Pink will outjump him, but Daughtry could be a real darkhorse. As far as this week I think Shinedown will have ONE more week, and then it's open to anyone for two weeks until Kings Of Leon takes over until September.
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Post by crazyfun1 on Jul 26, 2009 17:26:44 GMT -5
It was close but it looks like Pink will pass Rob tomorrow before he gets to #1. In all honesty, though, this song did better on the HotAC chart than I originally thought it might. #2 peak is nothing to take lightly! Congrats to Rob. BTW, there's a pretty revealing article on Rob in the next Rolling Stone issue (Michael Jackson is on the cover). I have that magazine and read the article about Rob. I am totally shocked that RS Magazine would write something positive about Mb20 OR Rob, since neither of them have ever been on the good side of the magazine. RS dislikes both MB20 and Rob, always has. I love the article, however. I already knew most of what was said, but it was still very good.
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Post by Kai on Jul 26, 2009 20:59:13 GMT -5
Noah, how can you not understand what Give Me the Meltdown is about? It's pretty obvious and he's talked about the role of being there for someone when they just lose it. After reading the RS article, I'm thinking he's the one having the meltdowns, but either way, there's nothing amusing about "the monkey" (read addictions/vices/mental anguish) that he's dealing with. I think the underlying rawness is what makes this such a great song and it should definitely be released as the next single. (Actually, I think it should have been the first single, but too late, now.)
From what I hear, the RS article barely scratches the surface of the stuff he's been through. I wish him well. It sounds like he needs more help than maybe his music can give him, but he seems to have done amazingly well considering the burdens he's been carrying around inside. My hat's off to the guy.
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Post by NORTHCOAST on Jul 26, 2009 22:07:30 GMT -5
From what I hear, the RS article barely scratches the surface of the stuff he's been through. I wish him well. It sounds like he needs more help than maybe his music can give him, but he seems to have done amazingly well considering the burdens he's been carrying around inside. My hat's off to the guy. Ooooh, spill! What have you heard?
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 27, 2009 11:37:35 GMT -5
Noah, how can you not understand what Give Me the Meltdown is about? It's pretty obvious and he's talked about the role of being there for someone when they just lose it. After reading the RS article, I'm thinking he's the one having the meltdowns, but either way, there's nothing amusing about "the monkey" (read addictions/vices/mental anguish) that he's dealing with. I think the underlying rawness is what makes this such a great song and it should definitely be released as the next single. (Actually, I think it should have been the first single, but too late, now.) From what I hear, the RS article barely scratches the surface of the stuff he's been through. I wish him well. It sounds like he needs more help than maybe his music can give him, but he seems to have done amazingly well considering the burdens he's been carrying around inside. My hat's off to the guy. The point is that "Give Me The Meltdown" isn't the kind of track that many listeners drawn to "Ever The Same" and "Her Diamonds" will emote with, regardless of how personal a place the song truly came from, because the rhythm outweighs the lyrical delivery. Part of me actually hopes it is released anyway, but I doubt it would fare well commercially. The track functions primarily as a crowd-pleaser and to show the world his music isn't constrained to any single sound and he is a still water running deep. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Rumors on Jul 27, 2009 12:32:29 GMT -5
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Post by Kai on Jul 27, 2009 13:59:49 GMT -5
Noah, how can you not understand what Give Me the Meltdown is about? It's pretty obvious and he's talked about the role of being there for someone when they just lose it. After reading the RS article, I'm thinking he's the one having the meltdowns, but either way, there's nothing amusing about "the monkey" (read addictions/vices/mental anguish) that he's dealing with. I think the underlying rawness is what makes this such a great song and it should definitely be released as the next single. (Actually, I think it should have been the first single, but too late, now.) From what I hear, the RS article barely scratches the surface of the stuff he's been through. I wish him well. It sounds like he needs more help than maybe his music can give him, but he seems to have done amazingly well considering the burdens he's been carrying around inside. My hat's off to the guy. The point is that "Give Me The Meltdown" isn't the kind of track that many listeners drawn to "Ever The Same" and "Her Diamonds" will emote with, regardless of how personal a place the song truly came from, because the rhythm outweighs the lyrical delivery. Part of me actually hopes it is released anyway, but I doubt it would fare well commercially. The track functions primarily as a crowd-pleaser and to show the world his music isn't constrained to any single sound and he is a still water running deep. Sincerely, Noah Eaton "EMOTE with?" What does that mean? Emote means to show emotion... do you mean relate with? I think a lot of us can certainly relate to having a friggin' meltdown way more than we might be able to relate to someone's illness. Heck, Ever the Same didn't exactly burn up the charts while Lonely No More went through the roof for Thomas, so why wouldn't you want to replicate that kind of crossover hit? Personally, I think that song is all about the vocal delivery. I'm a guy and even I find it sexy as hell!
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Post by Kai on Jul 27, 2009 14:16:49 GMT -5
From what I hear, the RS article barely scratches the surface of the stuff he's been through. I wish him well. It sounds like he needs more help than maybe his music can give him, but he seems to have done amazingly well considering the burdens he's been carrying around inside. My hat's off to the guy. Ooooh, spill! What have you heard? A lot of stuff - not so good. But it's not my place to spread it around and it sounds like he's got a new policy of "go ahead and ask, I just may tell" so if an another interviewer pursues it, maybe he'll unburden himself. I'll just say my admiration for him has grown considerably and that's saying something.
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Post by Rumors on Jul 27, 2009 14:30:17 GMT -5
Personally, I think that song is all about the vocal delivery. I'm a guy and even I find it sexy as hell! Bingo. This isn't a song that people will analyze the lyrics to but get up and shake their butt, too. Well, hopefully, anyway. :) It may not even be the next single but it should be.
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Post by Kai on Jul 27, 2009 20:24:48 GMT -5
Not sure how long it will hold on but he's #1 on the daily AC chart!
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Post by NORTHCOAST on Jul 27, 2009 20:27:08 GMT -5
Just saw the chart too. Does that mean he's got an official #1 song or does it have to stay there for a certain amount of time. Pink and Daughtry are breathing down his neck, for sure! www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradio/charts.asp?format=3&showyear=y&dpt=nMy Hot AC station has been playing a live in-studio version of Her Diamonds. Not even sure if it's in the official panel of stations but would it still count as a spin?
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Post by crazyfun1 on Jul 27, 2009 20:51:52 GMT -5
Wow...I just saw that video Rob did in Aussie. I think his Producer Matt and record label need to tell him to quit smoking. His voice is SO deep and raspy, I'm surprised he has a voicebox left. If you heard him even a few yrs ago, it wasn't THAT deep. Yes..you CAN loose your voicebox if you smoke enough for so long. For him, his career would be over, as far as singing. What do you all think?
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Post by fran182 on Jul 28, 2009 13:49:39 GMT -5
Today, it reached #1 on Mediabase Hot AC:
2 1 ROB THOMAS Her Diamonds 3635 3473 +162 17.861
115 stations playing.
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Post by Matt4319 on Jul 28, 2009 13:58:00 GMT -5
Today, it reached #1 on Mediabase Hot AC: 2 1 ROB THOMAS Her Diamonds 3635 3473 +162 17.861 115 stations playing.
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Post by Rumors on Jul 28, 2009 18:10:40 GMT -5
www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/insideradio/charts.asp?format=3&showyear=y&dpt=nPink has slowed down some so Rob just may be able to hold her off until at least Sunday. BTW, only 90 of the 93 stations on the panel are playing Her Diamonds. I would really love to know the three stations that haven't added this song and what their playlist looks like. Anyone with that information?
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Post by Rumors on Jul 28, 2009 18:11:47 GMT -5
Today, it reached #1 on Mediabase Hot AC: 2 1 ROB THOMAS Her Diamonds 3635 3473 +162 17.861 115 stations playing. This must be the other chart. Do you have a link?
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 29, 2009 0:24:06 GMT -5
The point is that "Give Me The Meltdown" isn't the kind of track that many listeners drawn to "Ever The Same" and "Her Diamonds" will emote with, regardless of how personal a place the song truly came from, because the rhythm outweighs the lyrical delivery. Part of me actually hopes it is released anyway, but I doubt it would fare well commercially. The track functions primarily as a crowd-pleaser and to show the world his music isn't constrained to any single sound and he is a still water running deep. Sincerely, Noah Eaton "EMOTE with?" What does that mean? Emote means to show emotion... do you mean relate with? I think a lot of us can certainly relate to having a friggin' meltdown way more than we might be able to relate to someone's illness. Heck, Ever the Same didn't exactly burn up the charts while Lonely No More went through the roof for Thomas, so why wouldn't you want to replicate that kind of crossover hit? Personally, I think that song is all about the vocal delivery. I'm a guy and even I find it sexy as hell! "Lonely No More", despite being an upbeat mid-tempo, emotes quite well because the lyrics are addressed to the point: He doesn't want to be lonely no more, he doesn't want to be treated as another name on someone's list but rather wants to have a romantic encounter with lasting meaning. Especially being laid out all clearly in the chorus, but constructed well through the verses in addition, it's a track many frustrated singles can easily relate to, because the track emotes well. Personally I like "Give Me The Meltdown", but more because it's all over the place than it actually conveys anything to me. Also, I liked INXS back in the day and this song is a throwback to their signature sound. But most recent songs that tap into that nostalgia tend to have short chart runs, and I believe, if this is indeed the second single, it would surely go Top 10 just because it's Rob Thomas, but would miss the Top Ten if it was a third or fourth single instead. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 29, 2009 0:36:38 GMT -5
Personally, I think that song is all about the vocal delivery. I'm a guy and even I find it sexy as hell! Bingo. This isn't a song that people will analyze the lyrics to but get up and shake their butt, too. Well, hopefully, anyway. :) It may not even be the next single but it should be. The same can be said, though, about the bonus track "So Sad, So Lonely" from matchbox twenty's third record, or the title track from "...Something To Be", or "Fallin' To Pieces", etc. Just because a song is catchy and makes you want to shake your tailfeather doesn't guarantee whatsoever it will have commercial success or even that it is a true single candidate. There's a lot of insanely catchy Europop, for instance, particularly from Sweden, Norway and the Baltic countries, that would be dead-on-arrival if promoted to North American radio stations. Dance/electronica/trance music only occasionally produces hits on the Mainstream Top 40 chart as well. Since Rob Thomas made an album clearly from his heart and intended for his closest fans instead of trying to make new fans, I encourage him to think outside the box with single releases too, and "Give Me The Meltdown" is clearly one of the more interesting tracks on the album, as is "Real World '09", "Wonderful" and "Fire On The Mountain". Yet, just because they're interesting doesn't make them surefire hits in the making. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2009 1:58:10 GMT -5
Thank god it hit #1! Please stay there.
2 1 ROB THOMAS Her Diamonds Emblem/Atlantic 2009 3635 3473 162 1 2 SHINEDOWN Second Chance Atlantic 2008 3625 3650 -25 3 3 PINK Please Don't Leave M... LaFace/JLG 2009 3606 3448 158 5 5 DAUGHTRY No Surprise RCA/RMG 2009 3356 3077 279 8 9 6 KINGS OF LEON Use Somebody RCA/RMG 2008 2733 2262 471
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Post by marv1978 on Jul 29, 2009 10:56:16 GMT -5
"EMOTE with?" What does that mean? Emote means to show emotion... do you mean relate with? I think a lot of us can certainly relate to having a friggin' meltdown way more than we might be able to relate to someone's illness. Heck, Ever the Same didn't exactly burn up the charts while Lonely No More went through the roof for Thomas, so why wouldn't you want to replicate that kind of crossover hit? Personally, I think that song is all about the vocal delivery. I'm a guy and even I find it sexy as hell! "Lonely No More", despite being an upbeat mid-tempo, emotes quite well because the lyrics are addressed to the point: He doesn't want to be lonely no more, he doesn't want to be treated as another name on someone's list but rather wants to have a romantic encounter with lasting meaning. Especially being laid out all clearly in the chorus, but constructed well through the verses in addition, it's a track many frustrated singles can easily relate to, because the track emotes well. Personally I like "Give Me The Meltdown", but more because it's all over the place than it actually conveys anything to me. Also, I liked INXS back in the day and this song is a throwback to their signature sound. But most recent songs that tap into that nostalgia tend to have short chart runs, and I believe, if this is indeed the second single, it would surely go Top 10 just because it's Rob Thomas, but would miss the Top Ten if it was a third or fourth single instead. Sincerely, Noah Eaton I haft to say as a musician and a former program director myself and all my passion for hit music from Elvis right up to the latest Nickelback single, that "Give Me The Meltdown" is ultra catchy and hooky and stays in your head and is easy to sing along with and is written very well musicaly and lyricaly,i mean it's not boom boom pow or birthday sex lol. it has heart and i predict it will also go #1 on hot ac and go higher on CHR,i think it will outpeak "How Far We've Come" on CHR. My little 4 year old says its his fav song and bounces to it in the car and my 50 year old mom loves it as well. I think alot of PD's wanted it first anyway. To me imo it's a no brainer and "Mockingbird" is a no brainer for the 3rd single as well imo :)
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 29, 2009 11:19:43 GMT -5
"Lonely No More", despite being an upbeat mid-tempo, emotes quite well because the lyrics are addressed to the point: He doesn't want to be lonely no more, he doesn't want to be treated as another name on someone's list but rather wants to have a romantic encounter with lasting meaning. Especially being laid out all clearly in the chorus, but constructed well through the verses in addition, it's a track many frustrated singles can easily relate to, because the track emotes well. Personally I like "Give Me The Meltdown", but more because it's all over the place than it actually conveys anything to me. Also, I liked INXS back in the day and this song is a throwback to their signature sound. But most recent songs that tap into that nostalgia tend to have short chart runs, and I believe, if this is indeed the second single, it would surely go Top 10 just because it's Rob Thomas, but would miss the Top Ten if it was a third or fourth single instead. Sincerely, Noah Eaton I haft to say as a musician and a former program director myself and all my passion for hit music from Elvis right up to the latest Nickelback single, that "Give Me The Meltdown" is ultra catchy and hooky and stays in your head and is easy to sing along with and is written very well musicaly and lyricaly,i mean it's not boom boom pow or birthday sex lol. it has heart and i predict it will also go #1 on hot ac and go higher on CHR,i think it will outpeak "How Far We've Come" on CHR. My little 4 year old says its his fav song and bounces to it in the car and my 50 year old mom loves it as well. I think alot of PD's wanted it first anyway. To me imo it's a no brainer and "Mockingbird" is a no brainer for the 3rd single as well imo :) As much as I strongly disagree with your predictions, I nonetheless am glad to hear yours and that we have diverse, varying projections here so that we can discuss why it is often ones projections are well at odds with those of another! :) I think "Someday" would be the safe bet for the third single if Rob Thomas and his label are looking for commercial success on this core format, but "Mockingbird" is a clear single candidate as well. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by NORTHCOAST on Jul 29, 2009 11:46:32 GMT -5
It's funny, but Someday and Her Diamonds (cuz I hear it so much on the radio) are the only two songs I skip when I play the CD. I would love Meltdown for #2 and Mockingbird #3.
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Post by Rumors on Jul 29, 2009 17:33:38 GMT -5
Per billboard.com today - ROB RULES: Already the only male artist with multiple No. 1s on the Adult Top 40 airplay chart, viewable at billboard.biz, Rob Thomas collects his third leader, as "Her Diamonds" shines 3-1. He previously held sway as a guest on Santana's "Smooth," which spent a format-record 25 weeks on top in 1999-2000 and with "Lonely No More," No. 1 for 10 weeks in 2005. With the coronation, Thomas ties Pink for most No. 1s by a solo artist. Here the acts with three or more No. 1s in the chart's 13-year history. Thomas appears on the list additionally as frontman of Matchbox Twenty: 5, Nickelback 4, Matchbox Twenty 3, Daughtry 3, Goo Goo Dolls 3, Pink 3, Santana 3, Rob Thomas www.billboard.com/#/col...mas-1003998678.storyDoes this mean he doesn't have to finish at #1 on Sunday to keep this record? I'm sure the record label will promote it as a #1 song but will Billboard permanently show it as a #1 song if it isn't on Sunday (which it may be)? I'm just curious how this works. <<< Happy Rob fan!
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