Revised Rick Dees Hot AC 2010 Year End Chart

[musicfanpete]

I am posting a revised version of my Rick Dees 2010 year end chart. The reason I am doing so is because looking at my current 2011 chart and using the traditional inverse point method in compiling the chart, we will most likely have a non-number song finishing as the top song of 2011, ahead of several songs that spent multiple weeks at number one. Therefore, in the tradition of the Billboard charts from the 1970's and 80's, I am assigning an extra 40 points (for a total of 80 points) for every week a song spends at number one. This will give the number one songs a little fairer chance at finishing higher up the charts. And hopefully this will tide everyone over unitl the 2011 year end charts are released. :) Let me know what you think of the new calculation of the chart.

1 The Script: Breakeven
2 Lady Antebellum: Need You Now
3 Train: If It's Love
4 Adam Lambert: Whataya Want From Me
5 Train: Hey, Soul Sister
6 Colbie Caillat: I Never Told You
7 Daughtry: Life After You
8. Kris Allen: Live Like We're Dying
9 Michael Buble: Haven't Met You Yet
10 Maroon5: Misery
11 John Mayer f/Taylor Swift: Half Of My Hear
12 Lifehouse: Halfway Gone
13 Katy Perry f/Snoop Dogg: California Gurls
14 OneRepublic: All The Right Moves
15 Sara Barellies: King Of Anything
16 Orianthi: According To You
17 Daughtry: September
18 Nickelback: This Afternoon
19 Neon Trees: Animal
20 Kelly Clarkson: Already Gone
21 Rob Thomas: Mockingbird
22 Lifehouse: All In
23 Pink: Glitter In The Air
24 John Mayer: Heartbreak Warfare
25 Rob Thomas: Someday
26 Goo Goo Dolls: Home
27 Katy Perry: Teenage Dream
28 Kelly Clarkson: All I Ever Wanted
29 Owl City: Fireflies
30 Bruno Mars: Just The Way You Are
31 Lady Gaga f/Beyonce: Telephone
32 Ryan Star: Breathe
33 OneRepublic: Secrets
34 Jason Derulo: In My Head
35 Lady Gaga: Bad Romance
36 Mike Posner: Cooler Than Me
37 Muse: Uprising
38 Enrique Iglesias f/Pitbull: I Like It
39 Taylor Swift: Mine
40 Paramore: The Only Exception
41 Bon Jovi: Superman Tonight
42 Taio Cruz: Dynamite
43 Ke$ha: Tik Tok
44 Nickelback: Never Gonna Be Alone
45 Plain White T's: Rhythm Of Love
46 Lady Gaga: Alejandro
47 Lady Antebellum: I Run To You
48 Theory Of A Deadman: All Or Nothing
49 Boys Like Girls f/Taylor Swift: Two Is Better Than One
50 Shinedown: If You Only Knew
51 Kings Of Leon: Use Somebody
52 Uncle Kracker: Smile
53 Ke$ha: Your Love Is My Drug
54 Melissa Etheridge: Fearless Love
55 Colbie Caillat: Fallin' For You
56 Angel Taylor: Like You Do
57 Adam Lambert: If I Had You
58 Kings Of Leon: Sex On Fire
59 Bon Jovi: What Do You Got
60 La Roux: Bulletproof
61 Snow Patrol: Just Say Yes
62 Pink: Raise Your Glass
63 Kris Allen f/Pat Monahan: The Truth
64 Black Eyed Peas: I Gotta Feeling
65 Taylor Swift: You Belong With Me
66 Taylor Swift: Today Was A Fairytale
67 Christina Perry: Jar Of Hearts
68 Barenaked Ladies: You Run Away
69 B.O.B. & Bruno Mars: Nothing On You
70 Train: Marry Me
71 Michael Franti & Spearhead: The Sound Of Sunshine
72 The Fray: Syndicate
73 Usher f/Pitbull: DJ Got Us Falling In Love
74 Taylor Swift: Fifteen
75 Michael Franti & Spearhead: Say Hey (I Love You)
76 The Dirty Heads: Lay Me Down
77 Carrie Underwood: Cowboy Casanova
78 VV Brown: Shark In The Water
79 Brandon Flowers: Crossfire
80 Bon Jovi: We Weren't Born To Follow
81 Lady Gaga: Paparazzi
82 Taio Cruz: Break Your Heart
83 Green River Ordinance: Come On
84 Ryan Star: Start A Fire
85 Maroon 5: Give A Little More
86 Days Difference: Speakers
87 Pink: Please Don't Leave Me
88 Miley Cyrus: Party In The U.S.A.
89 One EskimO: Kandi
90 Iyaz: Replay
91 Ingrid Michaelson: Maybe
92 Michael Buble: Hollywood
93 Nelly: Just A Dream
94 Pearl Jam: Just Breathe
95 Five For Fighting: Chances
96 Rihanna: Only Girl (In The World)
97 Daughtry: No Surprise
98 Blue October: Should Be Loved
99 Cavo: Let It Go
100 Creed: Rain

[Top 40 Tracker]

Blow was a non #1 that topped my rankings on the CHR chart for a few weeks recently until Adele unseated it.

I'm not sure a song at #1 is worthy of having double the points from #2...

Otherwise, we might as well take all the #1s and rank them in order of weeks spent at that position. That's how Fred does his in his Billboard books, but I don't like that...there are many songs that place top 3 that are bigger hits than most songs that spend a few weeks at #1.

Just curious as to which songs above hit #1...

[musicfanpete]

Aug 15, 2011 10:27:44 GMT -5 Top 40 Tracker said:

Blow was a non #1 that topped my rankings on the CHR chart for a few weeks recently until Adele unseated it.

I'm not sure a song at #1 is worthy of having double the points from #2...

Otherwise, we might as well take all the #1s and rank them in order of weeks spent at that position. That's how Fred does his in his Billboard books, but I don't like that...there are many songs that place top 3 that are bigger hits than most songs that spend a few weeks at #1.

Just curious as to which songs above hit #1...

You got some good points, and what I am doing is calculating both versions of the year end chart for comparison sake.

I too probably have to lean with the "natural" way of calculating songs that hit number one, not artificially boosting them up. But another music board had a long discussion of how Billboard calculated their year end charts in the 70's and 80's, and while they seemed to come with different methods each year, they all involved greatly boosting the points a number one song earned, and in one or two years, even all of the top ten songs!

You are also right that many non-number one songs probably are in actuality bigger hits than some number one songs. So the traditional inverse point method will reward those non-number one songs sometimes.

The issue that has risen on my 2011 year end chart, which I can probably say since most who follow Rick's Hot AC charts can probably guess which songs I'm talking about, has to do with that aforementioned Adele song and "For The First Time" by the Script. FTFT has earned about 160 more points than "Rolling In The Deep" by virtue of a slow start by Adele, and four additional weeks on the chart within the calendar year. I believe as FTFT starts accelerating down the chart, and RITD hangs around for another month or two in the top 20, RITD might be able to catch up, but it will be difficult. Therefore, we may end up with a song that only made it to #2, albeit for 6 weeks, finish ahead of a song that spent 7 weeks at #1. And since the song at #1 only received one additional point for each week at #1 than at #2, I guess you can make a good case for the Script having the top song of the year for the second straight year via the calendar year inverse point method.

I do appreciate the comments deshanw, and I enjoy your charts on the CHR thread. :) My only question is how come you don't post the weekly Rick Dees CHR chart?

[Top 40 Tracker]

Aug 15, 2011 19:09:30 GMT -5 musicfanpete said:

Aug 15, 2011 10:27:44 GMT -5 Top 40 Tracker said:

Blow was a non #1 that topped my rankings on the CHR chart for a few weeks recently until Adele unseated it.

I'm not sure a song at #1 is worthy of having double the points from #2...

Otherwise, we might as well take all the #1s and rank them in order of weeks spent at that position. That's how Fred does his in his Billboard books, but I don't like that...there are many songs that place top 3 that are bigger hits than most songs that spend a few weeks at #1.

Just curious as to which songs above hit #1...

You got some good points, and what I am doing is calculating both versions of the year end chart for comparison sake.

I too probably have to lean with the "natural" way of calculating songs that hit number one, not artificially boosting them up. But another music board had a long discussion of how Billboard calculated their year end charts in the 70's and 80's, and while they seemed to come with different methods each year, they all involved greatly boosting the points a number one song earned, and in one or two years, even all of the top ten songs!

You are also right that many non-number one songs probably are in actuality bigger hits than some number one songs. So the traditional inverse point method will reward those non-number one songs sometimes.

The issue that has risen on my 2011 year end chart, which I can probably say since most who follow Rick's Hot AC charts can probably guess which songs I'm talking about, has to do with that aforementioned Adele song and "For The First Time" by the Script. FTFT has earned about 160 more points than "Rolling In The Deep" by virtue of a slow start by Adele, and four additional weeks on the chart within the calendar year. I believe as FTFT starts accelerating down the chart, and RITD hangs around for another month or two in the top 20, RITD might be able to catch up, but it will be difficult. Therefore, we may end up with a song that only made it to #2, albeit for 6 weeks, finish ahead of a song that spent 7 weeks at #1. And since the song at #1 only received one additional point for each week at #1 than at #2, I guess you can make a good case for the Script having the top song of the year for the second straight year via the calendar year inverse point method.

I do appreciate the comments deshanw, and I enjoy your charts on the CHR thread. :) My only question is how come you don't post the weekly Rick Dees CHR chart?

I see what you mean...one point isn't much and to be honest, I struggled with the same thinking....should #1 be separated by more points or simply given bonus points? However, I designed my point system to simplify Mediabase's airplay totals. Sometimes, #1 and #2 are only separated by a few spins...as was the case this weekend when LMFAO beat Katy by just 30 spins. So, I came up with the average based on a 100 pt scale. #1 gets 100 and #2 95. I use this formula on all my charts so they are all the same.

As far as posting the Rick Dees CHR Chart...I have for the past two weeks. I put it in the AT40 thread each weekend so people can compare the two...

I will create a Rick Dees CHR thread and post my database chart there which will be similiar to yours...showing chart trends, etc. this weekend.

[musicfanpete]

Aug 18, 2011 7:40:49 GMT -5 Top 40 Tracker said:

Aug 15, 2011 19:09:30 GMT -5 musicfanpete said:

You got some good points, and what I am doing is calculating both versions of the year end chart for comparison sake.

I too probably have to lean with the "natural" way of calculating songs that hit number one, not artificially boosting them up. But another music board had a long discussion of how Billboard calculated their year end charts in the 70's and 80's, and while they seemed to come with different methods each year, they all involved greatly boosting the points a number one song earned, and in one or two years, even all of the top ten songs!

You are also right that many non-number one songs probably are in actuality bigger hits than some number one songs. So the traditional inverse point method will reward those non-number one songs sometimes.

The issue that has risen on my 2011 year end chart, which I can probably say since most who follow Rick's Hot AC charts can probably guess which songs I'm talking about, has to do with that aforementioned Adele song and "For The First Time" by the Script. FTFT has earned about 160 more points than "Rolling In The Deep" by virtue of a slow start by Adele, and four additional weeks on the chart within the calendar year. I believe as FTFT starts accelerating down the chart, and RITD hangs around for another month or two in the top 20, RITD might be able to catch up, but it will be difficult. Therefore, we may end up with a song that only made it to #2, albeit for 6 weeks, finish ahead of a song that spent 7 weeks at #1. And since the song at #1 only received one additional point for each week at #1 than at #2, I guess you can make a good case for the Script having the top song of the year for the second straight year via the calendar year inverse point method.

I do appreciate the comments deshanw, and I enjoy your charts on the CHR thread. :) My only question is how come you don't post the weekly Rick Dees CHR chart?

I see what you mean...one point isn't much and to be honest, I struggled with the same thinking....should #1 be separated by more points or simply given bonus points? However, I designed my point system to simplify Mediabase's airplay totals. Sometimes, #1 and #2 are only separated by a few spins...as was the case this weekend when LMFAO beat Katy by just 30 spins. So, I came up with the average based on a 100 pt scale. #1 gets 100 and #2 95. I use this formula on all my charts so they are all the same.

As far as posting the Rick Dees CHR Chart...I have for the past two weeks. I put it in the AT40 thread each weekend so people can compare the two...

I will create a Rick Dees CHR thread and post my database chart there which will be similiar to yours...showing chart trends, etc. this weekend.

So if #1 gets 100 points, and #2 gets 95 points, how many points do the bottom songs earn? I'm a little confused here.

Sounds good about posting the CHR chart. Looking forward to seeing it. :)