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Post by Hook on Dec 16, 2011 21:42:22 GMT -5
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Post by Adam (UTR) on Dec 16, 2011 21:53:17 GMT -5
I could see it hitting the top 10/15, but I think it will depend on how well it does at CHR/Pop radio. The Hot AC audience does love Adam, and I'm sure he'll get an Idol performance for the needed exposure, but this era definitely won't be as big as the last one.
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Post by Kurt on Dec 16, 2011 22:06:22 GMT -5
I feel the same way as Josh (as usual ); potentially a big HAC hit and I like it now (I think I'll grow to like it quite a lot). I think it'll do better here than it will on CHR, actually.
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Post by Rumors on Dec 17, 2011 10:58:10 GMT -5
Well, all I can say is great vocals blown on a truly average song. It doesn't even have a great beat. I don't know. I'm sure it will grow after additional listens but this just isn't the kind of song that is going to make Adam a legend. He does have talent as a vocalist but apparently not as a songwriter. I don't know if he has a co-write on this or not. I'm just assuming he does.
Adam has a dedicated fanbase so I'm sure he will be fine especially outside the US but his music doesn't do anything for me. At this point I think his career has been built around an image rather than the music. That is applicable for most pop stars but I was hoping there was more to Adam. Guess not.
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Post by out of reach on Dec 17, 2011 12:07:28 GMT -5
Well, all I can say is great vocals blown on a truly average song. It doesn't even have a great beat. I don't know. I'm sure it will grow after additional listens but this just isn't the kind of song that is going to make Adam a legend. He does have talent as a vocalist but apparently not as a songwriter. I don't know if he has a co-write on this or not. I'm just assuming he does. Adam has a dedicated fanbase so I'm sure he will be fine especially outside the US but his music doesn't do anything for me. At this point I think his career has been built around an image rather than the music. That is applicable for most pop stars but I was hoping there was more to Adam. Guess not. I am not really a fan of this either. I bought WWFM but not going to buy this. In any case I feel like this era will be much bigger than his last. He has the top writers, and his label is fully behind him willing to spend A list dollars on him and the media loves him. But lets not kid ourselves, even if he has writing credits, he is not a strong songwriter it's the collabs that will be chiefly responsible for the music. Of course he is more famous because of image unfortunately it's what it takes to breakout and become an established artist these days unless your Adele.
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Post by Rumors on Dec 17, 2011 12:34:19 GMT -5
Funny that you mention Adele. I think Adam does have that kind of voice that he could become a star without all the other image-based stuff. Instead he seems focused much more on the image. But then we do come back to that thing called songwriting. I understand that Adele does write and I don't know how much help she gets but I think you get my point. Adam is wasting natural vocal talent on so many forgetable songs.
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Post by out of reach on Dec 17, 2011 13:01:49 GMT -5
I agree with you that he is wasting his god given talents on mediocrity but imo I don't see any other way for him to become established, I don't think Adam can get by on voice alone. I don't think the mass public is interested in the male version of that kind of artist. I also think his voice and image are polarizing while I think Adele's is less so. I also think the missing part is that Adam is also a performer so image comes along with that.
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Post by keepitreal on Dec 18, 2011 10:26:24 GMT -5
Funny that you mention Adele. I think Adam does have that kind of voice that he could become a star without all the other image-based stuff. Instead he seems focused much more on the image. But then we do come back to that thing called songwriting. I understand that Adele does write and I don't know how much help she gets but I think you get my point. Adam is wasting natural vocal talent on so many forgetable songs. Adam isn't Adele although he has her vocal chops. He's a pop star and with that comes an image. If you haven't been paying attention he's an entertainer and performer of course image plays an important role in todays business but he also has the talent to back it up. Straight, clean cut Adam he's not and he needs to appeal to those fans that don't have a problem with his image. It's why I like the guy because he gives me the whole package. If you like his music you'll buy it, if not you won't. It's pretty much how it works. He also has writing credit on this album just like his last one but I don't see why that is so important. Adele very much had writing help. Wasn't Ryan Tedder a huge part of her album. I also think this era is going to be bigger for him than the last. BTW, I really like the song and it has been stuck in my head since listening to it.
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Post by Rumors on Dec 18, 2011 10:43:16 GMT -5
If you haven't been paying attention he's an entertainer and performer of course image plays an important role in todays business but he also has the talent to back it up. Straight, clean cut Adam he's not and he needs to appeal to those fans that don't have a problem with his image. LOL! I'm not saying he has to be Mother Teresa. Of course, every artist has an image but with some its the music and then the image. So far to me with Adam its been primarily the image. I follow an artist that has consistently said its all about THE SONG, THE SONG, THE SONG. That's where I live. If you don't have the songs, then you might as well be a great vocalist singing covers. Anyway, I'm glad you enjoy Adam's work and I'm sure his theaterical shows are a thing to behold.
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keepitreal
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Post by keepitreal on Dec 18, 2011 10:57:19 GMT -5
For me it's all about THE SONG, THE SONG, THE SONG that's why I buy his music. I guess I am his targeted audience. There are plenty of songwriters out there though.
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Post by perfectsmile on Dec 18, 2011 16:26:25 GMT -5
This song definitely grows on me. The more you listen, the more interesting things you can hear! I hope it will do really well for him!!
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Post by slamina on Dec 18, 2011 18:49:03 GMT -5
I hear an HAC hit but not a huge one: top 10, maybe top 5. It'll definitely do better here than on Pop that's for sure.
Like all Idol sophomore eras except for one I think this one will be less successful. Another gold selling album in the States is the best I see happening. All the hype has died down considerably and it's doubtful he'll get the same huge promo opportunities this time around. We'll see what happens.
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Post by Hook on Dec 19, 2011 20:44:52 GMT -5
GOING FOR HAC ADDS JANUARY 23
I like that this is going for adds a week earlier than it goes to CHR. I think it's a good idea given the sound of the song.
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Post by secretchef on Dec 21, 2011 13:30:29 GMT -5
I hear an HAC hit but not a huge one: top 10, maybe top 5. It'll definitely do better here than on Pop that's for sure. Like all Idol sophomore eras except for one I think this one will be less successful. Another gold selling album in the States is the best I see happening. All the hype has died down considerably and it's doubtful he'll get the same huge promo opportunities this time around. We'll see what happens. I'm not sure about promo, he's got new management now. He might actually get better promo than 19 could get for him, especially internationally. That two page spread in the Times in the UK was a good start. Wait and see I guess. But even if it only sells gold in the US, there's international interest. But your are right, all idols (except Kelly) have sold less in their sophomore cd. But I'm kinda hopeful for this era. I really like the collabs listed so far, not the usual Idol suspects. Pharrell, Bruno, etc. Hopefully there will be good singles choices after this, unlike FYE. Foolishly optimistic? Maybe. And if all else fails, he can do some shows with Queen and make a nice nest egg. Queen as a plan B, not so bad an option.
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Post by perfectsmile on Dec 21, 2011 14:09:17 GMT -5
I think this song will do really well on HAC. It's already getting some plays. I like this song the more I hear it!!
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Post by mylifeback on Dec 23, 2011 12:14:54 GMT -5
Radio Alice in San Francisco (KLLC) looks to have put this in rotation - All Access shows 15 spins over the last 7 days, spread all throughout the day. No other HAC stations are showing up for this song on the Taking Off chart, and none on Pop yet, altho that's obviously to be expected over the holidays.
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Post by perfectsmile on Dec 23, 2011 22:00:03 GMT -5
I'm hoping RCA will start pushing it early January!!
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Post by perfectsmile on Dec 26, 2011 12:54:31 GMT -5
BTIKM Plays Last Week
US HAC - 29 plays
KLLC-FM Pub 24 Hot AC San Francisco 19/RCA CBS Radio All other stations played 1-2 times
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Post by snowflakes on Jan 2, 2012 10:28:35 GMT -5
* = Auto AddStationSpins
KHMX-FM Pub12 Hot AC Houston 19/RCACBS Radio 6 1/2/2012 6:00:00 AM* KLLC-FM Pub28 Hot AC San Francisco 19/RCACBS Radio4 1/2/2012 6:00:00 AM* WOMX-FM Pub11 Hot AC Orlando 19/RCACBS Radio35 1/2/2012 6:00:00 AM
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WSJO-FM Pub 4 Hot AC Atlantic City, NJ 19/RCA Millennium Radio Group 142 1/2/2012 2:16:00 PM
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Post by perfectsmile on Jan 3, 2012 12:51:24 GMT -5
I think Adam said they would be shooting the MV this week, so probably won't show up until the end of January. Hoping for more adds today!
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Post by snowflakes on Jan 3, 2012 18:44:43 GMT -5
First Canadian add for BTIKM
* CHWV-FM Pub17 Canada- Hot AC Saint John 19/RCA Acadia Broadcasting Ltd28
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Post by snowflakes on Jan 4, 2012 18:19:24 GMT -5
CHUM-FM Pub 0 Canada-Hot AC Toronto 19/RCA Bell Media 1 1/4/2012 11:52:00 AM
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Post by perfectsmile on Jan 6, 2012 14:32:36 GMT -5
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Post by saga on Jan 14, 2012 7:27:54 GMT -5
Entered top50 today
58 50 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know Myself 123 71 52 0.477
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Post by perfectsmile on Jan 14, 2012 14:16:24 GMT -5
Entered top50 today 58 50 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know Myself 123 71 52 0.477 So excited that it is charting before the Adds date!!! Go Adam!!!!
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Post by ariesrising on Jan 14, 2012 14:20:17 GMT -5
Entered top50 today 58 50 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know Myself 123 71 52 0.477 Unfortunately I don't see it on the chart. Can you supply the link. The chart I'm looking at is apparently outdated. Thanks.
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Post by fluffyb on Jan 15, 2012 9:56:31 GMT -5
Unfortunately I don't see it on the chart. Can you supply the link. The chart I'm looking at is apparently outdated. Thanks.
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Post by snowflakes on Jan 15, 2012 10:33:18 GMT -5
HAC Update
53 47 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know Myself 136 76 60 0.515 +13 spins +8 bullet +0.038 AI
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Post by perfectsmile on Jan 16, 2012 17:21:53 GMT -5
53 45 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know M... 147 83 64 0.559 +2 Positions +11 Spins +4 Bullet +0.044 AI
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Post by snowflakes on Jan 18, 2012 13:29:17 GMT -5
52 45 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know M... 164 93 71 0.586 +7 Spins +1 Bullet -0.009 AI
Canada-HAC
63 44 ADAM LAMBERT Better Than I Know M... 119 70 49 1.396
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