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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 22:05:02 GMT -5
Impact Date: Nov. 14, 2011Writers: Brad Paisley, Chris DuBois, Kelly Lovelace Original format & peak: Country, #1 (week of September 10, 2011) |
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Post by desertfloods on Nov 8, 2011 22:19:46 GMT -5
So happy to read this! The CMA performance is perfect timing to reintroduce the song to wide audience!  And it will also help keep some Carrie buzz with non-country fans until her new single/album drops in 2012. |
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Nov 13, 2011 22:04:27 GMT -5
"Ella's Remix" of this song is available on the Hot AC page. In addition to de-emphasizing a lot of Brad's signature guitar work, it buries both of their voices in the back of a mix that now features a kitchen sink's worth of instrumentation. I suppose this is because one of the more recognizably country aspects of this song is the vocal performance put in by Brad & Carrie? Still, the remix is pretty awful and I wonder what the brain trust that decided that it would enhance the appeal of the song was thinking. The main selling points of "Remind Me" are the lyrics and storytelling; this remix compromises both of them. If this song does anything on the Hot AC format, I hope it is with the original mix. I have no use for silly pandering to stations allergic to a countrier sound, especially not when the musical integrity of the song is compromised. In any event, the song is listed at All Access as one being promoted by Arista/RED, and I think this is significant. The "Arista" represents Arista Nashville, not Arista New York (because Arista New York no longer exists). But RED is the Sony-owned independent arm that distributes and arranges radio and other promotion for a number of independents, including Jason Aldean's Broken Bow Records, to a limited range of formats that includes Hot AC. So the people there would have some experience promoting a country crossover duet to Hot AC (although the job here will be harder without a Hot AC format artist as one of the duet partners). I point this out to say that it appears there will be a serious effort to promote this song to Hot AC. When "Cowboy Casanova" was made available to Hot AC, it was promoted by Arista Nashville only and without a remix (which was Carrie's choice, I think, given her prior battles with Arista New York over remixes). Arista Nashville doesn't have the personnel or connections to promote properly outside of country radio, so there wasn't a serious effort made on behalf of "Cowboy Casanova." But RED's involvement means there is something more going on. Obviously, the first compromise that came with this arrangement with RED is a (bad) remix. "Remind Me"'s strength as a digital seller during its country chart run suggests that it should have wider appeal. It will be interesting to see whether it is able to make a dent on the Hot AC format as well. I guess I should have known something was up when I read these remarks from Arista Nashville's Lesly Tyson:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2011 22:37:44 GMT -5
I agree with you, Dudley, in the sense that this remix really isn't good.
In all honesty, I think they could cross over very respectably if they just keep it to the original, because it's very contemporary and could easily appeal to a much larger audience outside of Country if given the proper promotion. That, of course, relates to the promotional team behind Arista Nashville, though, and I'm not sure they know how to handle a song that they're purposely trying to get to crossover as opposed to a song that naturally crosses over, i.e., Carrie's Before He Cheats, Jesus, Take the Wheel, etc. It'll be interesting to see what happens, though.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 14, 2011 11:22:46 GMT -5
I can't help but believe this is an effort to keep Carrie relevant while we wait for her new music. Brad has never crossed over, so had Carrie not been on this song, I don't think they'd push out of Country. Still, I would have never thought Brad would be one to push for a crossover, we all know Carrie isn't "behind" this... Interesting, to say the least. It's definitely worthy of doing something, and judging by it's downloads with a pure Country audience, I feel this could easily go multi platinum if it were to hit big on AC. I really hope it does something.
If this were to hit really big, it could help get Carrie and Brad both recognized for Entertainer of the Year at both the ACMs and CMAs in 2012, a category Brad is no stranger to, but Carrie has yet to be noticed in - particularly at the CMAs. This could also help with Grammy recognition if it were to take off quickly enough...
With all this said, it's possible the song does nothing which would make my entire prediction irrelevant. We'll see, but I genuinely hope this does something if not for Brad, but to re-spark Carrie's career. A career that hardly needs any spark, but could use the help in terms of awards, particularly the CMAs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2011 12:13:12 GMT -5
Do you guys think this could mean they will try to make Carrie cross over in the future? Will they start giving her songs remixes for other formats?
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Nov 14, 2011 16:35:49 GMT -5
That, of course, relates to the promotional team behind Arista Nashville, though, and I'm not sure they know how to handle a song that they're purposely trying to get to crossover as opposed to a song that naturally crosses over, i.e., Carrie's Before He Cheats, Jesus, Take the Wheel, etc. It'll be interesting to see what happens, though. You missed my point, or perhaps I didn't make it clear. Arista Nashville is not handling the Hot AC promo for "Remind Me." Arista Nashville has subcontracted out promotion to RED. I can't help but believe this is an effort to keep Carrie relevant while we wait for her new music. Brad has never crossed over, so had Carrie not been on this song, I don't think they'd push out of Country. Still, I would have never thought Brad would be one to push for a crossover, we all know Carrie isn't "behind" this... Interesting, to say the least. You're contradicting yourself here, unless you're trying to say Brad would push for a crossover in an effort to keep Carrie out in the spotlight (which would be silly). I think this has to do with Brad and Arista Nashville looking at his album sales, hoping to extend the relevance of his current album, seeing an opportunity to stoke more sales based on "Remind Me"'s downloads, figuring he can get some bonus exposure in a market that isn't too familiar with him, and negotiating a one-shot deal with an indie. Do you guys think this could mean they will try to make Carrie cross over in the future? Will they start giving her songs remixes for other formats? To the extent that Overton respects the wishes of his artists, no. I'm not sure how much clearer Carrie could make it that she isn't interested enough in crossing over that she will remix her songs. She is no longer signed with Arista New York because she wanted control over how her songs were handled. I suppose one can't rule out the possibility of future one-off deals with RED on condition that there is no remix, however. But that was an option during the Play On era, too. Also, keep in mind that this subcontracting arrangement is probably going to result in some kind of profit-sharing between Arista Nashville and RED (either that, or Arista Nashville is fronting a certain amount of money upfront for RED to handle this). Arista Nashville would make more as percentage of sales without that arrangement. Carrie's songs have a history of reaching fans outside of country radio even without heavy radio presence outside of the country format, and she has had a few singles make the top-30 of the Hot AC format without a subcontracting arrangement for promotion. So Arista Nashville does just fine without encouraging her to enter into a promotional arrangement with another label. Brad, by contrast, isn't going to make top-30 without help and the download sales indicate enough potential that a supplementary deal may be worth it for him. |
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 14, 2011 17:57:38 GMT -5
That, of course, relates to the promotional team behind Arista Nashville, though, and I'm not sure they know how to handle a song that they're purposely trying to get to crossover as opposed to a song that naturally crosses over, i.e., Carrie's Before He Cheats, Jesus, Take the Wheel, etc. It'll be interesting to see what happens, though. You missed my point, or perhaps I didn't make it clear. Arista Nashville is not handling the Hot AC promo for "Remind Me." Arista Nashville has subcontracted out promotion to RED. You're contradicting yourself here, unless you're trying to say Brad would push for a crossover in an effort to keep Carrie out in the spotlight (which would be silly). I think this has to do with Brad and Arista Nashville looking at his album sales, hoping to extend the relevance of his current album, seeing an opportunity to stoke more sales based on "Remind Me"'s downloads, figuring he can get some bonus exposure in a market that isn't too familiar with him, and negotiating a one-shot deal with an indie. Do you guys think this could mean they will try to make Carrie cross over in the future? Will they start giving her songs remixes for other formats? To the extent that Overton respects the wishes of his artists, no. I'm not sure how much clearer Carrie could make it that she isn't interested enough in crossing over that she will remix her songs. She is no longer signed with Arista New York because she wanted control over how her songs were handled. I suppose one can't rule out the possibility of future one-off deals with RED on condition that there is no remix, however. But that was an option during the Play On era, too. Also, keep in mind that this subcontracting arrangement is probably going to result in some kind of profit-sharing between Arista Nashville and RED (either that, or Arista Nashville is fronting a certain amount of money upfront for RED to handle this). Arista Nashville would make more as percentage of sales without that arrangement. Carrie's songs have a history of reaching fans outside of country radio even without heavy radio presence outside of the country format, and she has had a few singles make the top-30 of the Hot AC format without a subcontracting arrangement for promotion. So Arista Nashville does just fine without encouraging her to enter into a promotional arrangement with another label. Brad, by contrast, isn't going to make top-30 without help and the download sales indicate enough potential that a supplementary deal may be worth it for him. I meant that I don't think they'd push for the crossover had Carrie not been on the song, which leads me to think Brad is behind the decision of a remix... I'm sure Carrie probably doesn't care as it is Brad's song, but I don't think Carrie would have pushed for this had it been her song. While Brad's sales are probably the biggest incentive, I feel they're taking advantage of Carrie (in a good way) in releasing this to a broader audience. This, in turn, could help Carrie as well. So it's a twofer, in a way, even if they don't mean it to be. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2011 20:25:41 GMT -5
That, of course, relates to the promotional team behind Arista Nashville, though, and I'm not sure they know how to handle a song that they're purposely trying to get to crossover as opposed to a song that naturally crosses over, i.e., Carrie's Before He Cheats, Jesus, Take the Wheel, etc. It'll be interesting to see what happens, though. You missed my point, or perhaps I didn't make it clear. Arista Nashville is not handling the Hot AC promo for "Remind Me." Arista Nashville has subcontracted out promotion to RED. Ah! Now I see. Thanks! :) |
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Post by Adam (UTR) on Nov 25, 2011 13:41:56 GMT -5
Looks like it's only on a few stations at the moment, but perhaps it will do well in 2012. I finally got a higher quality rip of Ella's Mix and it's pretty decent.
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Post by misterscribbs on Nov 27, 2011 15:29:36 GMT -5
Looks like it's only on a few stations at the moment, but perhaps it will do well in 2012. I finally got a higher quality rip of Ella's Mix and it's pretty decent. I would love to hear the higher quality, and hope for the sake of the song, it's not as horrible as I think it is so far. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 21:47:46 GMT -5
Is this doing anything?
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Post by Kurt on Jan 10, 2012 23:36:24 GMT -5
It's added on four stations, three of which spun it last week (8 spins for KLLY and KLTG, 4 for KPSI). In other words...no, not really.  |
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