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Post by gardyfan on Mar 21, 2022 18:41:10 GMT -5
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Post by bdrm87 on Mar 21, 2022 21:06:51 GMT -5
Agreed. She is probably completed her contract and elected not to renew. Explains why there was no follow-up to Gettin' Over Him. But I agree with Indulge. She's well-liked in the industry, just became an Opry member and has a lot going for her. I look for her to sign elsewhere - maybe like a Broken Bow, Big Loud or a Triple Tigers? None of them have an established female act like the other majors (Sony, WB) and major independents do (BMLG, Black River). I wouldn't renew that contract either if I were her. Her team passes on a duet with Dustin Lynch, which wouldn't be that bad if her song did great, but they couldn't even get it to top 20. Eh…I honestly can’t fault them for that decision. Obviously it didn’t pay off, but I think it was a gamble they needed to take. Her career would benefit much more from getting another hit of her own vs featuring on a hit that further cements her as “the girl that sings on other people’s songs” in the minds of many casual radio listeners. If they did drop her, I guess I’m not that surprised, but it seems weird since there were other points in her career when it would’ve made more sense. But if that’s the case I have no doubt she’ll quickly land somewhere else, and like Scotty it may be for the better.
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Post by dwindeezy on Mar 22, 2022 1:39:31 GMT -5
Dang that would be wild if he left the label or got dropped. On one hand, UMG haven’t been able to figure out the radio situation for her which is the last dot to connect for her so I could see her leaving them. But on the other hand I feel like if she leaves the label for a label like Big Loud or Triple Tigers, though they seem to do better radio wise for their artists, I feel like she’d be sacrificing critical/mainstream acclaim (I’ve noticed it’s harder for artists on those labels to get award noms/performances etc). But then again considering all other success metrics for her is rising, maybe all she needs is a label who can get her consistent radio success to finally be a star. I have a feeling it’s a glitch though (I kind hope).
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Post by zdm1998 on Mar 22, 2022 11:35:12 GMT -5
Dang that would be wild if he left the label or got dropped. On one hand, UMG haven’t been able to figure out the radio situation for her which is the last dot to connect for her so I could see her leaving them. But on the other hand I feel like if she leaves the label for a label like Big Loud or Triple Tigers, though they seem to do better radio wise for their artists, I feel like she’d be sacrificing critical/mainstream acclaim (I’ve noticed it’s harder for artists on those labels to get award noms/performances etc). But then again considering all other success metrics for her is rising, maybe all she needs is a label who can get her consistent radio success to finally be a star. I have a feeling it’s a glitch though (I kind hope). I mean it’s not like she’s cleaning house award wise with UMG, she already doesn’t get nominated for her work with them. It’d only be positive benefits for her to move.
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Post by dwindeezy on Mar 22, 2022 12:45:36 GMT -5
Dang that would be wild if he left the label or got dropped. On one hand, UMG haven’t been able to figure out the radio situation for her which is the last dot to connect for her so I could see her leaving them. But on the other hand I feel like if she leaves the label for a label like Big Loud or Triple Tigers, though they seem to do better radio wise for their artists, I feel like she’d be sacrificing critical/mainstream acclaim (I’ve noticed it’s harder for artists on those labels to get award noms/performances etc). But then again considering all other success metrics for her is rising, maybe all she needs is a label who can get her consistent radio success to finally be a star. I have a feeling it’s a glitch though (I kind hope). I mean it’s not like she’s cleaning house award wise with UMG, she already doesn’t get nominated for her work with them. It’d only be positive benefits for her to move. Exactly, that kinda what I was thinking but at the same time, maybe she hasn’t been nominated a lot because she HASNT been getting those radio hits so I’m just nervous that if she starts getting radio hits and isn’t on a label that has the pull for award noms/performances (I mean let’s be real, LA has the voice and ability to record a Grammy nominated type song If given the opportunity), she might again be stuck at a level in her career due to a label not being able to achieve something for her, ya know. I’d hate for LA to leave UMG for one of those labels to start getting radio hits but it doesn’t translate to sales/streams the way we thought and then she still doesn’t get recognized by awards and stuff bc a label leaving her at a plateau.
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Post by zdm1998 on Mar 22, 2022 13:15:54 GMT -5
I mean it’s not like she’s cleaning house award wise with UMG, she already doesn’t get nominated for her work with them. It’d only be positive benefits for her to move. Exactly, that kinda what I was thinking but at the same time, maybe she hasn’t been nominated a lot because she HASNT been getting those radio hits so I’m just nervous that if she starts getting radio hits and isn’t on a label that has the pull for award noms/performances (I mean let’s be real, LA has the voice and ability to record a Grammy nominated type song If given the opportunity), she might again be stuck at a level in her career due to a label not being able to achieve something for her, ya know. I’d hate for LA to leave UMG for one of those labels to start getting radio hits but it doesn’t translate to sales/streams the way we thought and then she still doesn’t get recognized by awards and stuff bc a label leaving her at a plateau. I mean yeah it'd suck, but it's basically switch labels and gain a benefit (maybe radio hits) than staying where she is and having no benefits. Because at this point I don't see UMG being able to make radio happen (which is what would help her get nominations), especially now that Mercury has Priscilla Block on with them that they will be sharing focus with and trying to break. Plus at the end of the day awards only have to much meaning. I think the exposure radio gives is more beneficial than awards; the best example being that Kelsea Ballerini is a much bigger artist than Carly Pearce, (her number of #1s, sales, and streams show this), but Carly has won more ACM & CMAs than Kelsea (i'm not trying to shade either artist because I love both, just trying to show what I mean.)
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Post by dwindeezy on Mar 22, 2022 13:23:07 GMT -5
Exactly, that kinda what I was thinking but at the same time, maybe she hasn’t been nominated a lot because she HASNT been getting those radio hits so I’m just nervous that if she starts getting radio hits and isn’t on a label that has the pull for award noms/performances (I mean let’s be real, LA has the voice and ability to record a Grammy nominated type song If given the opportunity), she might again be stuck at a level in her career due to a label not being able to achieve something for her, ya know. I’d hate for LA to leave UMG for one of those labels to start getting radio hits but it doesn’t translate to sales/streams the way we thought and then she still doesn’t get recognized by awards and stuff bc a label leaving her at a plateau. I mean yeah it'd suck, but it's basically switch labels and gain a benefit (maybe radio hits) than staying where she is and having no benefits. Because at this point I don't see UMG being able to make radio happen (which is what would help her get nominations), especially now that Mercury has Priscilla Block on with them that they will be sharing focus with and trying to break. Plus at the end of the day awards only have to much meaning. I think the exposure radio gives is more beneficial than awards; the best example being that Kelsea Ballerini is a much bigger artist than Carly Pearce (her number of #1s, sales, and streams show this), but Carly has won more ACM & CMAs than Kelsea (i'm not trying to shade either artist because I love both, just trying to show what I mean.) Yea I totally get what you mean. With awards, I feel like they are just supplemental to success and isn’t that much of a measure anymore, just in saying getting awards and award performances to me means they’re the top contenders of the format in a sense so I’d love that for LA. I also agree with you about Priscilla Block as in she seems to be getting a better radio reaction than Lauren so I could see UMG shifting more focus to her which doesn’t bode well for Lauren’s radio future with them. In that respect, I’d love to see her with Big Loud as I feel they fit very much with her personality, sound and image (plus she cowrites with Ernest and HARDY as well as songs with Hardy). If she could break like Morgan due to radio success, you’re right, it actually could be the right move for her at this point.
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Post by jessy on Mar 22, 2022 16:58:53 GMT -5
I really hope Lauren didn’t get dropped. She’s one of my favorite female artist. Gabby,Lauren,Ashland is my top 3 females. Ashland is on big loud I’m actually curious why she didn’t get a radio single from her Album. Ashland Craft I feel could have a hit if given a chance
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Post by darko on Mar 22, 2022 17:07:02 GMT -5
Not sure if she was dropped or didn't renew but I agree its time. They have replaced her with Pricilla Block and its clear they are promoting Lauren even less (if that is possible) now that Pricilla is on Mercury. Really I still look at Jimmy Allen's team who made him a star out of nothing. Lauren is way too talented and popular to not reach greater heights in the Country Music scene. So many missed opportunities, How could they pass on sending What do you think of to non country stations. It doesn't make sense how inept was her UMG team.
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Post by jab820 on Mar 22, 2022 17:17:17 GMT -5
Ooh, wow. This is shocking. It seems to me much more likely she chose not to renew. I wonder what kind of contract she signed in 2011, but that first album came in fall 2011, meaning it's been just over 10 years since original contract.
Then again, everyone on Pulse kind of agreed that if Getting Over Him couldn't take off, then nothing could. Maybe UMG felt the same way. But what awful timing on their end, especially with the Opry debut. I get those are two different worlds, but you would think you'd want to retain an Opry member on your roster.
All for her moving to a smaller label. Yeah, it might turn in to a Kelsea situation with never being nominated, but she's never nominated anyway. Justice for Lauren Alaina in all areas of her career.
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Post by jab820 on Mar 22, 2022 17:21:47 GMT -5
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbQK10ZA1o7 Off topic, but technically on topic: New artist (all over Tik Tok) Lauren Weintraub just signed with Virgin. She is stellar and I'm looking forward to her breaking out. I am new to following labels and rosters, but they seem to be signing a bunch of people - what's going on there?
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Post by rsmatto on Mar 23, 2022 11:13:42 GMT -5
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbQK10ZA1o7 Off topic, but technically on topic: New artist (all over Tik Tok) Lauren Weintraub just signed with Virgin. She is stellar and I'm looking forward to her breaking out. I am new to following labels and rosters, but they seem to be signing a bunch of people - what's going on there? Virgin (if it's a USA deal) is UMG's "Label Services" division like The Orchard is for Sony and ADA is for Warner. -- As for Lauren, it could simply be that her deal with 19 Recordings is finally over and she's exploring options. I wouldn't be surprised if UMG works with her again. Or maybe she'll go to the new River House Artists label JV with Warner Music Nashville. Would make sense, really. A real "Flagship" artist.
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Post by zdm1998 on Mar 24, 2022 9:54:22 GMT -5
Not to keep dragging it on, but it appears UMG has unfollowed Lauren on Instagram. Further, adding to the topic they might have parted ways.
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Post by bdrm87 on Mar 24, 2022 10:48:42 GMT -5
Not to keep dragging it on, but it appears UMG has unfollowed Lauren on Instagram. Further, adding to the topic they might have parted ways. I was just coming here to say this haha. They’re clearly done, we’ve just all been in denial.
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Post by dwindeezy on Mar 25, 2022 3:30:32 GMT -5
Not to keep dragging it on, but it appears UMG has unfollowed Lauren on Instagram. Further, adding to the topic they might have parted ways. I was just coming here to say this haha. They’re clearly done, we’ve just all been in denial. Word, I hope Getting Over Him was her teams last straw LMAO. I’ve definitely been convinced by y’all that this probably will be the best bet for her to at least get radio hits as I cannot imagine she will not get scooped up immediately (she probably has already been in talks lol). If she does get scooped up immediately (and hope it’s Big Loud or a label where she can be flagship or very high priority with a strong radio success), I hope it’d be announced with at least an EP and new single so we can get started on a relaunch, which I also hope is a true relaunch with a brand refresh/update lol.
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 25, 2022 10:20:48 GMT -5
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Post by darko on Mar 26, 2022 11:02:48 GMT -5
I was just coming here to say this haha. They’re clearly done, we’ve just all been in denial. Word, I hope Getting Over Him was her teams last straw LMAO. I’ve definitely been convinced by y’all that this probably will be the best bet for her to at least get radio hits as I cannot imagine she will not get scooped up immediately (she probably has already been in talks lol). If she does get scooped up immediately (and hope it’s Big Loud or a label where she can be flagship or very high priority with a strong radio success), I hope it’d be announced with at least an EP and new single so we can get started on a relaunch, which I also hope is a true relaunch with a brand refresh/update lol. Last night at a pre show meet and greet Lauren was asked if she and Scotty were still friends. She said yes and we have something exciting to announce soon. Perhaps she is joining Triple Tigers. They could use a strong female on their roster. Cam is great but I do not see her breaking back into country radio. Not sure how Mercury could have mismanaged Lauren anymore then they did. Would be happy to see her with TT.
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Post by zdm1998 on Mar 26, 2022 11:46:22 GMT -5
I thought Triple Tigers would be a good fit for her as well. Him and Lauren were originally on the same label, and like Lauren, UMG couldn’t fully break him. When he moved to Triple Tigers he found so much more success. Triple Tigers or Big Loud are her best bets imo.
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Post by Michael G. Sibley on Mar 26, 2022 17:50:22 GMT -5
Not to belabor the point about Lauren Alaina's next label, has anybody thought of Quartz Hill or Stone Country Records. As of yet there are no female acts, and Lauren would be a great addition to build around in terms of future female acts who may sign there.
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Post by wonderstruck on Mar 28, 2022 11:32:48 GMT -5
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Post by dwindeezy on Mar 29, 2022 0:57:08 GMT -5
It was kinda funny how we were just talking about Lauren Alaina on Big Loud and how she’d be a great artist on their roster and they just signed a new female. Nothing really crazy just interesting thru added another female to the roster and hope that doesn’t lessen the chance of LA moving over there.
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 2, 2022 11:24:59 GMT -5
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 2, 2022 11:25:58 GMT -5
Seeing since jhomes87 is no longer part of the Pulse staff, can we get Kanenrá:ke or bboat11 to update the opening post soon? Thanks!
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Apr 2, 2022 11:36:40 GMT -5
Seeing since jhomes87 is no longer part of the Pulse staff, can we get Kanenrá:ke or bboat11 to update the opening post soon? Thanks! There’s been like two changes since the last update lol But sure I’ll go in and change it when I’m home later!
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 4, 2022 14:58:50 GMT -5
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Post by fearlessarrow on Apr 4, 2022 15:08:41 GMT -5
Honestly if nothing really stuck for Lauren outside of that one time when “Road Less Traveled” took off after OTV, I’d rather have her try her hand at a different label. Like others have mentioned, the industry seems to like her and it’s not like she’s been releasing flops after flops (she’s always gotten some support on the radio front too). I’m hoping she is going to end up/ended up at a place she’s happy with and go from there!
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Post by lipe on Apr 4, 2022 15:56:24 GMT -5
Glad she said 'I have made the tough decision...' so it looks like she wasn't dropped. Which hopefully means she has a new record deal on the way, or at least something planned. Can't wait for all those 'exciting things' to happen and I hope everything turns out fine for her.
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Post by zdm1998 on Apr 4, 2022 17:46:51 GMT -5
This definitely confirms that it was her who did the leaving. Makes sense because I think she’s the most successful current female at UMG besides Carrie, I doubted UMG would be the one wanting to part ways. I’d bet the “Thinking Bout You” ordeal, Getting over Him’s performance, and Pricilla Block, were her driving forces for leaving.
This is a great choice for her, because I could see a smaller label, one that could focus specifically on her, could really help her out when it comes to radio, best example being Scotty Mecreery (her former label mate), once he was let go of Universal and signed to a smaller one, he got his first #1, and ever song following that one has went #1 as well.
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