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Post by imreadynow on Oct 19, 2012 12:27:23 GMT -5
Yeah, that's a bummer. Not only are they really talented back-up singers, but she's formed such strong bonds with her touring family, and already lost one of her guitarists/bassists (don't know the difference tbh) to the Shania tour (not sure if that's permanent). At least her tour is over and she has some time to deal and find new talent and get to know them. Some fans saw Jason Halbert outside the show a few days ago and he said Cory would be back in January. Sad about J&K leaving the band. They all seemed so close with each other. It's going to be weird without them. |
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Post by Focus on Oct 19, 2012 13:06:28 GMT -5
Kelly may be touring in the spring. :)
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Post by nightshade on Oct 19, 2012 13:13:16 GMT -5
TBH the past two Stronger tours have been a Greatest Hits tour rather than a Stronger tour. :/
I wonder what little setlist changes will be made to this third NA tour.
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Post by clarksonnumber1 on Oct 19, 2012 13:32:01 GMT -5
A person at ATRL said PLU was changed to Pop-Rock. If true, I don't think Kurstin produces Pop-Rock music so that would likely mean it is the Dark Child song.
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Post by neally on Oct 19, 2012 13:35:00 GMT -5
A person at ATRL said PLU was changed to Pop-Rock. If true, I don't think Kurstin produces Pop-Rock music so that would likely mean it is the Dark Child song. He does produce Pop-Rock: Kelly's 'Honestly' is operatic pop/rock and he has worked with 3OH!3, Pink, KT Tunstell, and The Flaming Lips just to name a few. |
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Post by dbhmr on Oct 19, 2012 13:39:46 GMT -5
People throw "pop/rock" around for everything, including "Stronger." I don't think it means they changed the song to sound like "Don't Let Me Stop You" or something.
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Post by clarksonnumber1 on Oct 19, 2012 15:02:32 GMT -5
A person at ATRL said PLU was changed to Pop-Rock. If true, I don't think Kurstin produces Pop-Rock music so that would likely mean it is the Dark Child song. He does produce Pop-Rock: Kelly's 'Honestly' is operatic pop/rock and he has worked with 3OH!3, Pink, KT Tunstell, and The Flaming Lips just to name a few. Has Kurstin produced any Pop-Rock hits though? It's believed they were planning this album since July. I recall Kelly mentioning the Dark Child song in June. The Kurstin songs were much more recent. The timing favors Dark Child I would think. He's also produced a lot more hits over his career. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 15:17:18 GMT -5
He does produce Pop-Rock: Kelly's 'Honestly' is operatic pop/rock and he has worked with 3OH!3, Pink, KT Tunstell, and The Flaming Lips just to name a few. Has Kurstin produced any Pop-Rock hits though? It's believed they were planning this album since July. I recall Kelly mentioning the Dark Child song in June. The Kurstin songs were much more recent. The timing favors Dark Child I would think. He's also produced a lot more hits over his career. I remember after the songwriter demo of Stronger leaked, people who had Kelly's version (before it leaked) said that it was much more pop/rock. I definitely think that term is thrown around a lot. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 15:18:00 GMT -5
Really sad about J&K. :( That must be tough on KC, they seemed like great friends. Also, I think they were probably the best backup singers Kelly ever had....they blended in perfectly, whereas some she's had in the past stood out way too much.
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Post by Not Careful Enough on Oct 19, 2012 15:29:48 GMT -5
He does produce Pop-Rock: Kelly's 'Honestly' is operatic pop/rock and he has worked with 3OH!3, Pink, KT Tunstell, and The Flaming Lips just to name a few. Has Kurstin produced any Pop-Rock hits though? It's believed they were planning this album since July. I recall Kelly mentioning the Dark Child song in June. The Kurstin songs were much more recent. The timing favors Dark Child I would think. He's also produced a lot more hits over his career. Stronger is pop-rock. I doubt Dark Child produced this if they said it was pop rock, Kurstin has a better record in that genre. Timing doesn't have much to do with it either... if a song is done then it can be put on a record. It doesn't take as long as people think to finish a song and once it IS complete there isn't much that has to be done to have it added to a track listing, especially since they JUST finished both the track-listing and the cover. Dark Child producing more hits doesn't have much to do with anything considering most of them were R&B songs and he has never had a pop rock hit. On another note, I doubt Kelly is THAT upset about J&K. Announcing you're leaving something like a touring band isn't something that just happens on the spot. I'm sure Kelly and her team have known for quite a while. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 15:41:46 GMT -5
Awww... that sucks that J&K are leaving. They are pretty good solo, though, so Kelly is probably thrilled that they are going to do their own thing. She'll be their #1 fan, I'm sure.
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Post by clarksonnumber1 on Oct 19, 2012 17:34:47 GMT -5
Timing doesn't have much to do with it either... if a song is done then it can be put on a record. It doesn't take as long as people think to finish a song and once it IS complete there isn't much that has to be done to have it added to a track listing, especially since they JUST finished both the track-listing and the cover. I'm assuming that RCA heard a song that they really liked, then decided to do the greatest hits album. The Dark Child song was before July while the Kurstin material was after. It's certainly possible I'm wrong on this. I just can't consider What Doesn't Kill You as a Pop-Rock song. |
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Post by Not Careful Enough on Oct 19, 2012 18:07:24 GMT -5
Pop rock as of late has been fused with electro-pop. WDKY is definitely pop rock by today's definition of the genre.
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Post by mikeyj7 on Oct 19, 2012 19:53:18 GMT -5
Hilarious mention of KC's Greatest Hits album on 'What the Buck?' this week. Stars around 3:28.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 23:30:10 GMT -5
I'm excited for the new songs! PLU has the potential to be a hit.
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Post by Kavla on Oct 20, 2012 3:58:54 GMT -5
No offense, but I'm not really hearing hit potential in PLU. Don't you think the chorus is kinda weak? It kinda surprises me that practically everyone who's heard is loving it.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Oct 20, 2012 4:13:27 GMT -5
No offense, but I'm not really hearing hit potential in PLU. Don't you think the chorus is kinda weak? It kinda surprises me that practically everyone who's heard is loving it. it's the song-writers demo which means a few of the lyrics were likely re-written. When we got the song-writers demo for WDKY, it was the same way. Then Kelly helped rewrite the chorus and a few lines in the second verse. VOILA! 4x platinum. |
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Post by Kavla on Oct 20, 2012 4:29:32 GMT -5
Good point. It certainly has a very easily memorable melody (compared to CMB) which is a good sign.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 12:52:36 GMT -5
This is kind of random, but I was listening to her versions of "I'll be Home for Christmas," and I actually prefer the version she recorded for her mom during the concert over the iTunes Session one. Anyone else agree?
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Post by Focus on Oct 20, 2012 12:55:12 GMT -5
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Post by kylecburke on Oct 20, 2012 13:39:26 GMT -5
Top selling albums so far for 2012
26 RCA CLARKSON*KELLY STRONGER 492,008
Digital Tracks
RCA 6 CLARKSON*KELLY STRONGER (WHAT DOESN'T KILL YO 3,664,63
RCA 143 CLARKSON*KELLY MR. KNOW IT ALL 622,633
RCA 157 CLARKSON*KELLY DARK SIDE 571,556
Digital Albums
41 RCA CLARKSON*KELLY STRONGER 159,083
BILLBOARD YEAR END ALBUMS 2012
020 -698,000 - STRONGER - Kelly Clarkson
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 14:18:40 GMT -5
I'm confused, what's the difference between Billboard Year End Albums and Top Selling Albums for 2012?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 14:20:48 GMT -5
According to tweets, the Chart Show crew is at the Wembley Show tonight! So I guess they're filming it for the show?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 14:39:02 GMT -5
Random, but I kinda like the pic a little more after seeing it not cropped as much from the banner on her website, I just don't like what they did to her nose.  |
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Post by bb on Oct 20, 2012 14:51:07 GMT -5
Sad about Jill and Kate-- I've long thought their friendship with Kelly is part of what made her so dedicated to her tours and performances. I'm sure she has known about it for a while and is thrilled about their continued attempts at finding more success, but I hope it doesn't change Kelly's opinion of long times away from home. Her world tours are truly when she shines as a vocalist and artist.
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Post by kylecburke on Oct 20, 2012 14:59:18 GMT -5
I'm confused, what's the difference between Billboard Year End Albums and Top Selling Albums for 2012? BB Year End is based on Billboard Year End Charts Which Begin I believe with end of Dec-Nov of the year, Where as teh Year End 2012 is based on the entire 2012 year Jan-Dec. This is how Christmas albums rank so high on BBYE and not so high on Yearly End |
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Oct 20, 2012 15:14:01 GMT -5
Made by Amnesia...  we've seen the jewel case image of this one, made by overprotected...  |
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Post by kylecburke on Oct 20, 2012 15:17:30 GMT -5
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Oct 20, 2012 16:00:26 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 16:20:12 GMT -5
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