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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 21:54:26 GMT -5
I'm not trying to be mean or accusatory or anything, but I'm just saying that, from my perspective, those are the observations and deductions that I made. Obviously josh had to lie to win, but that's part of the game. You and nick both had to lie, too. Did either of you have a safe claim? That might have been a good idea to reveal it if so.
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Post by JCMF3 on Feb 6, 2013 21:54:29 GMT -5
I think this was a great game!
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 6, 2013 21:54:52 GMT -5
josh: You were the one most persistently on the two of us, we NEEDED you gone.
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Post by JCMF3 on Feb 6, 2013 21:55:04 GMT -5
What is a safe claim?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 21:55:57 GMT -5
Not to mention bandwagoning on every lynch
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Post by nick64 on Feb 6, 2013 21:55:59 GMT -5
I just read the green room... Ryan calling me village idiot :'( But Az I understand what they're saying. I think a little TOO much defense. We worked well together in our thought process, but in the end, we basically ended up exposing each other.
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 6, 2013 21:56:13 GMT -5
I'm not trying to be mean or accusatory or anything, but I'm just saying that, from my perspective, those are the observations and deductions that I made. Obviously josh had to lie to win, but that's part of the game. You and nick both had to lie, too. Did either of you have a safe claim? That might have been a good idea to reveal it if so. Nick and I thought of several ways to use my safe-claim, none of them would have worked. I was an N1 Cop.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 21:57:13 GMT -5
It's like something that mafia/independent has that is something they can claim to be (a power role) if they want to reveal it. It's to like get rid of suspicion. Xiivi's much better at explaining it than me.
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Post by nick64 on Feb 6, 2013 21:57:13 GMT -5
I'm not trying to be mean or accusatory or anything, but I'm just saying that, from my perspective, those are the observations and deductions that I made. Obviously josh had to lie to win, but that's part of the game. You and nick both had to lie, too. Did either of you have a safe claim? That might have been a good idea to reveal it if so. My safe claim was vanilla. I'm mad at myself for not creating something though
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 21:59:20 GMT -5
And guys, don't get offended by us saying that people were playing poorly. I said it, and I stand by it. I feel like there was so much missed by almost every player, and everyone made foolish mistakes, myself included. The only actual real good players this time around were Josh and Jason, and I applaud them for it. It's all just a learning experience, so hopefully, we'll have learned from this game what to do in the future!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 22:01:59 GMT -5
Xiivi said I played good too!
But ya, dont take it so personally guys. Just a game. Hopefully you can learn some things from it.
And I hope I get to co mod next.
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 22:02:27 GMT -5
josh: You were the one most persistently on the two of us, we NEEDED you gone. Oh, I definitely understand. And I needed one of you two gone as well!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 22:02:38 GMT -5
Xiivi said I played good too! Xiivi lied. :kii:
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 22:03:10 GMT -5
I'm not trying to be mean or accusatory or anything, but I'm just saying that, from my perspective, those are the observations and deductions that I made. Obviously josh had to lie to win, but that's part of the game. You and nick both had to lie, too. Did either of you have a safe claim? That might have been a good idea to reveal it if so. Nick and I thought of several ways to use my safe-claim, none of them would have worked. I was an N1 Cop. Oh, in case people didn't notice, I claimed N1 Reporter, my safe claim was for N2. You can always lie a little for your safe claim.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 22:04:12 GMT -5
Xiivi said I played good too! Xiivi lied. Ch..... I was red hot on the az trail and had suspicions of nick before i died. But no one pays attention to me so
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 22:05:06 GMT -5
Poor Kurt, though, being killed right away again. :'( Oh and I finally made it to the end of the game alive!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 22:06:23 GMT -5
Poor Kurt, though, being killed right away again. :'( Oh and I finally made it to the end of the game alive!!! What about your stump-i-ness
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 6, 2013 22:06:36 GMT -5
What I don't like was even Xiivi saying 'uhh he missed this possibility' or 'he's only following one line of thought' cause uhh... I wasn't. I realize there's multiple explanations for things, Nick and I were actually strategizing for multiple scenarios.
Josh not dying for example: possibility A was that I was roleblocked which was the first thing I thought of. Heartbreak put Josh last on his suspect list, which meant that if he were a Doctor, he used a protection on Josh and when Josh didn't die he decided it worked and put Josh last because the results told him Josh was not Mafia (being the one targeted). Possibility B (which wound up being true) was that Josh was bulletproof. I brought this up in the Mafia QT too.
I was trying to consider everything in this game, I don't like hearing that I missed things when it's just as likely I didn't.
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 6, 2013 22:08:25 GMT -5
(And that's not meant to be me throwing Xiivi under the bus either for the record, but I do recall some of his posts in the GR suggesting I was missing/overlooking stuff in my deductions)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 22:14:23 GMT -5
I see a lot of your thought process in the mafia qt, which isn't bad persay, it's more the implementation of it. Your posts became essays of rambling. It became so repetitive after a whole. And inactive scapegoating is a HUGE mafia tell.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 0:07:14 GMT -5
BTW Az nothing personal
I just wanted you dead so you wouldn't have the most wins. Now that josh won it's a 4 way tie between me, Slizzard, Az and joshu.
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Post by nick64 on Feb 7, 2013 0:08:22 GMT -5
Holding onto the record for most losses
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Post by josh on Feb 7, 2013 0:08:31 GMT -5
im the only one to win solo tho. yolo
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 0:09:19 GMT -5
Xiivi lied. Ch..... I was red hot on the az trail and had suspicions of nick before i died. But no one pays attention to me so You started a bandwagon against Slizzard and hammered Rocky, then died.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 0:10:27 GMT -5
Ch..... I was red hot on the az trail and had suspicions of nick before i died. But no one pays attention to me so You started a bandwagon against Slizzard and hammered Rocky, then died. lmaooo
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 0:11:12 GMT -5
Ch..... I was red hot on the az trail and had suspicions of nick before i died. But no one pays attention to me so You started a bandwagon against Slizzard and hammered Rocky, then died. He didn't start the bandwagon on Slizzard. He even opposed joining it. You convinced him to go along with the Rocky lynch when he was voicing suspicion of all three anti-towns. Nice try covering up your own bad play though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 0:15:06 GMT -5
I wasn't forcing him to hammer Rocky, he has free will :kii: #TeamAvengeSlizzard
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 0:16:34 GMT -5
Plus I don't see how we were supposed to know that Rocky just made a noob mistake, still stand by that vote tb h.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 0:20:55 GMT -5
Ry4n posted some good reasons as to why he was skeptical about Rocky actually being scum. He read into the intent behind Rocky's posts/play (and weighed Nightfire's in too) instead of just going the OMGUS-for-hammering-a-townie way. It is possible to read into the intent behind a newbie-scummy hammer vs. a newbie-townie hammer. It just takes some deduction and educated guessing. The way the Rocky lynch went down did end up giving good information though, so it was a good lynch in that regard. It was just unfortunate that the only one who was looking at that lynch for information was the one who was killed that night.
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Post by Kurt on Feb 7, 2013 0:29:41 GMT -5
Poor Kurt, though, being killed right away again. :'( Really, though... I never even got to post this. :'(
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