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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Feb 6, 2013 8:06:58 GMT -5
I am hoping Pink squeezes into the top 10 before her airplay drops off. I think Sweet Nothing has the best chance based on its' strength in streaming as wll as sales and airplay.
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Post by The Upper Hand on Feb 6, 2013 8:11:12 GMT -5
What is the difference between these numbers and those we can find on Kworb's site? I perceive they are pretty similar. (Sorry if this has already been answered before)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 8:11:57 GMT -5
Archives are at the bottom. Bullets are colored in black in the circles of the number. Oh, thanks I noticed that but I couldn't figure out why it didn't show the list, just the #1 or a random airplay/digital gainer. Turns out you have to click the "H100" text for it to show the top 10  |
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Post by Lozzy on Feb 6, 2013 8:26:00 GMT -5
What is the difference between these numbers and those we can find on Kworb's site? I perceive they are pretty similar. (Sorry if this has already been answered before) Kworb's AI list only counts airplay from the top 50 currents and top 50 recurrents of each format; the 'proper' ones include all airplay. The difference is usually just a bit of minor airplay. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 8:42:42 GMT -5
Why does Kworb have slightly higher AI for some songs?
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Post by Lozzy on Feb 6, 2013 8:45:36 GMT -5
Why does Kworb have slightly higher AI for some songs? ... that I do not know. |
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Post by stanr on Feb 6, 2013 9:32:45 GMT -5
Prediction:
1. Thrift Shop
2. Locked Out of Heaven
3. I Knew You Were Trouble
4. Scream and Shout
5. Ho Hey
6. Don't You Worry Child
7. F**ckin Problems
8. Beauty and a Beat
9. Daylight
10 Sweet Nothing
11. Try
12. Diamonds
#9 - #12 are pretty close.
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Feb 6, 2013 9:50:35 GMT -5
Prediction:
1. Thrift Shop (no brainer, over 50,000 points)
2. Locked Out Of Heaven;
3. Sream & Shout
4. I Knew You Were Trouble (lack of streaming prevents #2 rank);
5. Ho Hey
6. Don't You Worry Child
7. Beauty and A Beat
8. F**ckin Problems
9. Try
10. Sweet Nothing
I am assuming lack of streaming activity will prevent Daylight from hitting the top 10 this week.
I expect the point differential between songs 2-6 to be less than 5,000 points, but the difference between #1 and #2 to be over 17,000.
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Post by cesarams on Feb 6, 2013 10:27:27 GMT -5
Why does Kworb have slightly higher AI for some songs? Probably these songs lost airplay on another formats where they aren't in the Top 50. |
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Post by Lozzy on Feb 6, 2013 10:34:30 GMT -5
Why does Kworb have slightly higher AI for some songs? Probably these songs lost airplay on another formats where they aren't in the Top 50. How would that affect the total numbers though? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 10:35:49 GMT -5
Why does Kworb have slightly higher AI for some songs? Probably these songs lost airplay on another formats where they aren't in the Top 50. But it how can it have negative airplay? Kworb should still just be slightly lower, I think. |
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Post by cesarams on Feb 6, 2013 10:51:51 GMT -5
Probably these songs lost airplay on another formats where they aren't in the Top 50. How would that affect the total numbers though? Example: Diamonds it's with 90.684 on overall update. But it's with 91.284 on Kworb's update. Maybe it lost 0.600 on formats where it isn't in the Top 50. That's what I meant to say before. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 6, 2013 11:03:34 GMT -5
Billboard.com:
Over on the Digital Songs chart, Macklemore & Ryan Lewis' "Thrift Shop" (featuring Wanz) stays steady at No. 1 for a fourth week, selling 381,000 downloads (up 7%). In a distant second place is will.i.am & Britney Spears' "Scream & Shout," rising two rungs to No. 2 with 170,000 (up less than 1%).
Taylor Swift's "I Knew You Were Trouble" falls 2-3 (162,000; down 14%), Swedish House Mafia's "Don't You Worry Child" (featuring John Martin) rises 6-4 (122,000; down 8%) and the Lumineers' "Ho Hey" is a non-mover at No. 5 (118,000; down 16%).
Lil Wayne's "Love Me" (featuring Drake & Future) slips 3-6 (109,000; down 36%) and Bruno Mars' "When I Was Your Man" vaults 28-7 (105,000; up 87%). The latter's jump comes as it also rises 30-23 on the Pop Songs airplay chart (known as Mainstream Top 40 on billboard.biz).
Right behind Mars on the Digital Songs chart is . . . Mars again, with "Locked Out of Heaven." It moves down one slot to No. 8 with 105,000 (down 17%). Justin Bieber's "Beauty and a Beat" climbs 12-9 (104,000; up 18%) and Maroon 5's "Daylight" descends 9-10 (95,000; down 8%).
Digital track sales this past week totaled 25.80 million downloads, down 3% compared with last week (26.67 million) and down 2% stacked next to the comparable week of 2012 (26.39 million). Year to date track sales are at 143.65 million, up 1% compared to the same total at this point last year (141.58 million).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 11:03:34 GMT -5
But let's say: CHR/Hot AC/Other
Kworb: 80 + 20
Mediabase: 80 + 20 + other
Other can't be negative, so it should still be bigger even if it got a negative bullet.
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Post by cesarams on Feb 6, 2013 11:05:20 GMT -5
But let's say: CHR/Hot AC/Other Kworb: 80 + 20 Mediabase: 80 + 20 + other Other can't be negative, so it should still be bigger even if it got a negative bullet. Well, then I don't know ??? |
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Post by imbondz on Feb 6, 2013 11:23:21 GMT -5
ok i've asked before, but why isn't Catch My Breath by Clarkson a top 10 hit? I think it's one of her best, and perfect for radio. Is it not as good as I think it is?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 11:31:25 GMT -5
The general public doesn't like it as much as you.
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Feb 6, 2013 11:40:26 GMT -5
'Don't Rush' > 'People Like Us' > 'Catch My Breath'.
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Post by jebsib on Feb 6, 2013 12:01:02 GMT -5
No, its good. Lots of people I know say the production values sound dated and it feels like album filler. I disagree, but there you are...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 12:27:51 GMT -5
I presume CHR is what is really holding CMB back - that does not make it a subpar song at all IMO, but I guess PDs have determined it's just not a heavy-rotation fit there, like it is at HAC and AC. It also lags in streaming (which I think tends to skew in favor of pop songs) so that would also support my theory. It's just not a song that pop-only fans would immediately gravitate to. But then, I felt that way about MKIA as well...interestingly, CMB's iTunes position has generally fluctuated between the low teens and upper 20s on iTunes, and that is pretty much parallel to its airplay position for the past several weeks (which has just recently risen into the top 20 after being right outside it for a while). I think if its CHR airplay were higher it would probably sell more too.
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Post by crystalphnx on Feb 6, 2013 12:29:21 GMT -5
Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Lead Hot 100 for Third Straight WeekMacklemore & Ryan Lewis log a third week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 with their debut entry "Thrift Shop," featuring Wanz. P!nk and Calvin Harris, along with guest Florence Welch, meanwhile, ascend to the chart's top 10. "Thrift" continues its Hot 100 command by tacking on Airplay Gainer honors for a second consecutive week. The track lifts 8-7 on Radio Songs, increasing by 23% to 88 million all-format audience impressions, according to Nielsen BDS. It crowns the Rhythmic genre airplay chart with a 2-1 advance and enters the Pop Songs top 10 (13-8). On Rhythmic, the pair is the just the second rap duo to top the tally with a first entry in the chart's 20-year history; Bad Meets Evil reigned with "Lighters," featuring Bruno Mars, for four weeks in October 2011. (With rap superstar Eminem half of Bad Meets Evil (with Royce da 5'9"), however, Macklemore & Lewis mark the first rap twosome with no prior widespread chart experience to rule the Rhythmic ranking.) "Thrift" holds atop Streaming Songs with 2 million streams (up 9%), according to BDS. It leads On-Demand Songs for a fifth week with 1.87 million on-demand streams (up 9%), again rewriting its own record for the most weekly on-demand streams dating to the inception of the chart last March. (On-Demand Songs includes data from subscription services Spotify, Rdio, Muve Music, Slacker, Rhapsody and Xbox Music.) "Thrift" tops the Digital Songs chart for a fourth frame with 381,000 downloads sold (up 7%), according to Nielsen SoundScan. As it remains atop the Hot 100, the cut rules Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs for a fourth week and Rap Songs for a fifth frame. Mars' "Locked Out of Heaven" holds at No. 2 for a third week after spending six weeks atop the Hot 100. Still, it tallies a seventh week at No. 1 on Radio Songs (135 million, down 5%). The track's domination on Radio Songs is the longest by a solo male since Mars' own "Just the Way You Are" also led for seven weeks in late 2010. "Heaven" stays at No. 4 on Streaming Songs (1.25 million, up 1%) and dips 7-8 on Digital Songs (105,000, down 17%). Another honor for the song: with its latest sales week, it passes 3 million downloads sold, marking Mars' seventh song (and fifth on which he's a lead act) to break the barrier. Outside the Hot 100's top 10, Mars' follow-up single, "When I Was Your Man," vaults 49-22 with top Digital Gainer honors, soaring 28-7 on Digital Songs (105,000, up 87%). With the song's video having premiered yesterday (Feb. 5), and Mars set to perform at the Grammy Awards Sunday night (Feb. 10), the song's momentum should easily continue. "Thrift" again widens its lead atop the Hot 100 over "Heaven," as approximately 22,000 overall chart points separate the titles (after the margin was about 15,000 points last week). "Thrift" gains by 9% in points, while "Locked" declines by 7%. Will.i.am and Britney Spears' "Scream & Shout" enters the Hot 100's top three (5-3), while ruling Dance/Electronic Songs for a fourth week. The track climbs 4-2 on Digital Songs (170,000, up less than 1%), holds at No. 7 on Streaming Songs (1.13 million, up 2%) and rises 9-8 on Radio Songs (82 million, up 16%). (A significantly different rap-heavy remix of the song, featuring Hit Boy, Waka Flocka Flame, Lil Wayne and Diddy, is being tracked separately and debuts at No. 49 on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs.) The Lumineers' "Ho Hey" slides from its No. 3 peak to No. 4 on the Hot 100, while leading Hot Rock Songs for a 12th week, and Taylor Swift's No. 2-peaking "I Knew You Were Trouble." slips 4-5. Still, "Trouble" tops Pop Songs for a third week and closes in on the Radio Songs summit (2-2) with a 7% increase to 130 million. EDM trio Swedish House Mafia's "Don't You Worry Child," featuring John Martin, remains at No. 6 on the Hot 100, while Justin Bieber's "Beauty and a Beat," featuring Nicki Minaj, maintains its No. 7 rank and adds the chart's Streaming Gainer award. Surely aided by the buzz of Bieber's "Believe Acoustic" album, which launches atop the Billboard 200 with 211,000 copies sold, "Beat" increases by 29% to 1.02 million streams and pushes 13-11 on Streaming Songs. A$AP Rocky's "F**kin Problems" jumps 10-8 in its second week in the Hot 100's top 10, followed by two newcomers to the chart's top tier. P!nk lifts 11-9 with "Try," her 13th top 10. As it follows her No. 1 "Raise Your Glass" (2010), "F**kin' Perfect" (No. 2, 2011), and "Blow Me (One Last Kiss)" (No. 5, 2012), she scores her first streak of four consecutive top 10s since 2001-02, when "Lady Marmalade," with Christina Aguilera, Lil' Kim and Mya, spent five weeks at No. 1, followed by "Get the Party Started" (No. 4) and the No. 8 hits "Don't Let Me Get Me" and "Just Like a Pill." On the Hot 100's component charts, "Try" ranks highest on Radio Songs, where it retreats 5-6 but gains by 3% to 91 million. Calvin Harris collects his first Hot 100 top 10 as a lead artist, as "Sweet Nothing," featuring Florence Welch, surges 14-10 (and holds at No. 2 on Dance/Electronic Songs). Harris previously inhabited the Hot 100's top bracket as a guest on Rihanna's 10-week No. 1 "We Found Love" in 2011-12. (He added the No. 12-peaking "Feel So Close" and the No. 17 hit "Let's Go," featuring Ne-Yo, last year.) "Sweet" stays at No. 10 on Streaming Songs (1 million, up 6%) and rises 18-15 on Radio Songs (59 million, up 13%). Welch enjoys her first top 10 trip on the Hot 100. She'd previously peaked as high as No. 21 as frontwoman for her group Florence + the Machine with "Dog Days Are Over" in 2010. And, in a clear sign of the genre's continued growth, with Swedish House Mafia at No. 6 and Harris at No. 10, two EDM acts rank in the Hot 100's top 10 simultaneously for the first time. Check Billboard.com tomorrow (Feb. 7), when all rankings, including the Hot 100 and On-Demand Songs in their entirety and Digital Songs and Radio Songs, will be refreshed, as they are each Thursday. www.billboard.com/articles/news/1537998/macklemore-ryan-lewis-lead-hot-100-for-third-straight-week
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Post by Lockheart on Feb 6, 2013 12:36:56 GMT -5
Another top 3 for Britney.. but #2 is possible next week again
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Post by GRRR on Feb 6, 2013 12:46:54 GMT -5
Yes yes yes! Queen Florence top 10 :')
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 12:54:44 GMT -5
S&S is officially different from the remix for charting purposes.
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Feb 6, 2013 12:57:04 GMT -5
Damn, I missed by one position!
According to my rough calculations:
Thrift Shop = 56,383 points
Locked Out of Heaven = 34,326 points
Scream & Shout = 31,948 points
Even if the gap between #1 and #2 closes by 5,000 per week (not very likely considering Thrift Shop continues to gain on all 3 component charts), it would take 5 more weeks to crown a new #1.
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Post by kingofpain on Feb 6, 2013 13:00:04 GMT -5
Yes!!! Pink and Calvin/Florence finally get their top 10 dues with their songs!!!
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Post by Rocky on Feb 6, 2013 13:15:01 GMT -5
Yeah for P!nk, :( for Alicia. Next week maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 13:19:46 GMT -5
I think if its CHR airplay were higher it would probably sell more too. I never get this arguement. Isn't this true for every song? |
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Post by Pink Pvssy on Feb 6, 2013 13:23:25 GMT -5
Yay! Another 3 for Britney. So happy for Calvin. :)
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Post by Quixotic Music Lover on Feb 6, 2013 14:52:34 GMT -5
Probably these songs lost airplay on another formats where they aren't in the Top 50. But it how can it have negative airplay? Kworb should still just be slightly lower, I think. I compared the #s for February 6th from Kworb.net to those provided on the Pulse Music Board, and Kworb's AI were lower as expected. "Diamonds" was 90.561 on Kworb vs. 90.684. |
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