Mariah Carey | New album out May 6 | "You're Mine (Eternal)"

[#LisaRinna]

Miss Monroe is so precious!

[HolidayGuy]

Is Team Mariah tied to her, or is it a fan organization?

[Deleted]

YASS Monroe!!! all i heard was no bitches dahling.

[weaver]

Nov 9, 2013 9:48:59 GMT -5 JamaicaFunk² said:

Found this Entertainment Weekly review of Merry Christmas.
Amongst the highlights: the album is just a showcase for Mariah's "formidable, but cold, vocal chops" and calls AIWFCIY (plus the other original songs) a "standard wannabe".
That's fun.
Have a good laugh.

I searched and found the Heartbreaker review - they gave it an F, and erroneously stated that it sampled Genius of Love, the same song that Fantasy sampled. That really pissed me off when I read it...like hello do your homework! I have always thought Heartbreaker was a fun single but she did veer dangerously close to self-plagiarism on that one...of course not to the degree of sampling the same track twice.

[jenglisbe]

Nov 9, 2013 18:54:44 GMT -5 weaver said:

Nov 9, 2013 9:48:59 GMT -5 JamaicaFunk² said:

Found this Entertainment Weekly review of Merry Christmas.
Amongst the highlights: the album is just a showcase for Mariah's "formidable, but cold, vocal chops" and calls AIWFCIY (plus the other original songs) a "standard wannabe".
That's fun.
Have a good laugh.

I searched and found the Heartbreaker review - they gave it an F, and erroneously stated that it sampled Genius of Love, the same song that Fantasy sampled. That really pissed me off when I read it...like hello do your homework! I have always thought Heartbreaker was a fun single but she did veer dangerously close to self-plagiarism on that one...of course not to the degree of sampling the same track twice.

A few sources claimed that about the sample, actually.

"Heartbreaker" does have the same bassline as "Fantasy" and the first line of the chorus has a melody like "Dreamlover," but apart from that I don't get the fuss.

[jenglisbe]

JD has posted a letter to fans that is very worrisome:

LAMBS ACTIVATE !!!!

With basically 1 day left before the release of “The Art Of Letting Go” on Mariahs FaceBook page, i thought it was important to share with my Lifers,things i’ve learned through this exercise,First off, as big as FaceBook is,when it comes to music people still question how much ground will actually get covered,ive gotten messages every day from lambs like this.(Mariah’s fanbase isn’t like Biebers in that it isnt full of teenagers who sit on Itunes. Many of them are old skool and need to be exposed to the song on radio first to want to support her,so while the Facebook premiere will attract a lot of die hard fans, many more fans will only be exposed to Mariah by airplay and that is what will drive up her iTunes position.) via @meltaway

If your a member of Global14 or a Jermaine Dupri follower than you should know how much i believe in direct connect and how long i’ve been talking about this,i learned the strength of this when i signed Dondria,when people follow you,subscribe to your page or like you,their sending you a very important message,its your job to pay attention and understand what that is.

Before i approached FaceBook about this, i was wrecking my brain trying to think of something to do, that would hit all of her lambs at once,its not many things that can do that,but FaceBook can,to all of the lambs sending me messages,i hope you fully understand this,lets just say if Mariah only had 1 million followers (for laughs) on monday at 11 am each one those million people will recieve a notification of exactly whats going on,REMEMBER!!! this is 1 million people that won’t this notification

The 2nd thing i learned is that internet education is still way down,from the Record labels,Publishing companies,Artist and PR,they still don’t address these content controllers the way they should,and artist of the MC level still don’t use FaceBook to their advantage.as i’m writing this, I’m praying we have all the signatures and legal information taken care of cause just yesterday shit was going crazy!!and with out me going into details,as much as this may sound like its been done before, it really has’nt

On monday 11/11 at 11 am around the world, you will be able to buy the song,listen to the song and ask Mariah question on her FaceBook page, i hope to see you there

Looking past the grammar errors, this situation sounds like a mess. And he's blaming everyone but himself. And WTH is he comparing Mariah to someone named Dondria? Ugh. It sounds like the facebook deal could be in trouble based on the signatures/legal sentence. And why does JD keep claiming this facebook deal hasn't been done before? Britney just did it last week!

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jenglisbe
I'm not the one who usually dishes out praises but you are fast becoming a must must read! incredible contribution to this thread
#POW

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Nov 9, 2013 19:28:55 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Looking past the grammar errors, this situation sounds like a mess. And he's blaming everyone but himself. And WTH is he comparing Mariah to someone named Dondria? Ugh. It sounds like the facebook deal could be in trouble based on the signatures/legal sentence. And why does JD keep claiming this facebook deal hasn't been done before? Britney just did it last week!

Perhaps writing on Facebook with proper grammar in a hurry isn't JD's strength. But that's the least of his problems. Something's seriously wrong with all of this. He should not be anywhere near Mariah or any singer ever again. If this is the problem now, imagine what happens when he is 'unhappy' or not 'enthusiastic' about the album and scraps it all close to the release date. It seems like everything JD gets involved in nowadays gets totally fucked up.

The mention of Dondria is so odd. Dondria is an R&B singer that JD discovered on YouTube a few years ago. She was signed to JD's label. But she has had only one top 20 single on the R&B chart. One could say she is mildly successful, but it's such a bizarre example and comparison to make given the difference between Mariah and her. Mariah has been extremely successful for nearly 2 decades.

I wonder if the way JD was setting up the deal with FB for the new single was something different than just posting it as a video or stream on FB. Maybe he was thinking about messaging everyone who has 'liked' the Mariah page about the song, but maybe it's invasive to do it because some may not want that and it could be a potential issue.

[sundaymorningguy]

Don't you usually have all the legal p's and q's done before you make such an announcement in the first place? The fact that he is still dealing with legal issues with FB says a lot about this situation. I can only blame Mariah for thinking he would be a great manager. Here I was thinking all of the stuff was taken care of before the announcement was made.

[Deleted]

Oh so the guy who is facing bankruptcy and has serious financial issues is having problems managing and working on deals for a singer of the magnitude of Mariah, shocked! Nobody saw this coming at all.

[sundaymorningguy]

I don't think anyone is shocked, but seriously a lot of what he is dealing with is common sense crap.

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Nov 9, 2013 21:10:09 GMT -5 sundaymorningguy said:

Don't you usually have all the legal p's and q's done before you make such an announcement in the first place? The fact that he is still dealing with legal issues with FB says a lot about this situation. Here I was thinking all of the stuff was taken care of before the announcement was made.

THIS!

One should never ever announce something like that before it's a 100% done deal just in case it ends up not being possible at the last minute. It's so awful.

Nov 9, 2013 21:27:59 GMT -5 @spiritanimal said:

Oh so the guy who is facing bankruptcy and has serious financial issues is having problems managing and working on deals for a singer of the magnitude of Mariah, shocked! Nobody saw this coming at all.

There was a blind item a while back about how JD's alleged financial issues had something to do with paying Janet Jackson all this money to be his bust it baby. Alexyss also alluded to this a long time ago. Khia had been saying that there was some shady s**t going on and now it's all out in the open.

[sundaymorningguy]

I am starting to wonder if JD being her manager was more his suggestion than it was hers. Sounds like he needed a way to get some fast money in his account. Well the only good news out of this is if he screws her over no more JD produced tracks.

[Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815...]

Hmmmm....

[kmbgs]

I literally thought that was a letter written by Monroe or something. This ain't looking good

[imperfect]

I blame Obama for this! Oh crap, wrong thread.

[Linnethia Monique]

He needs to distance himself from Global Grind when it comes to Mariah. He keeps trying to make that site happen but it is beyong BASIC. That has been one of his main issues with new artist that he has signed.

[jenglisbe]

Nov 9, 2013 21:10:09 GMT -5 sundaymorningguy said:

Don't you usually have all the legal p's and q's done before you make such an announcement in the first place? The fact that he is still dealing with legal issues with FB says a lot about this situation. I can only blame Mariah for thinking he would be a great manager. Here I was thinking all of the stuff was taken care of before the announcement was made.

[Jay D83]

Nov 9, 2013 19:28:55 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

JD has posted a letter to fans that is very worrisome:

LAMBS ACTIVATE !!!!

With basically 1 day left before the release of “The Art Of Letting Go” on Mariahs FaceBook page, i thought it was important to share with my Lifers,things i’ve learned through this exercise,First off, as big as FaceBook is,when it comes to music people still question how much ground will actually get covered,ive gotten messages every day from lambs like this.(Mariah’s fanbase isn’t like Biebers in that it isnt full of teenagers who sit on Itunes. Many of them are old skool and need to be exposed to the song on radio first to want to support her,so while the Facebook premiere will attract a lot of die hard fans, many more fans will only be exposed to Mariah by airplay and that is what will drive up her iTunes position.) via @meltaway

If your a member of Global14 or a Jermaine Dupri follower than you should know how much i believe in direct connect and how long i’ve been talking about this,i learned the strength of this when i signed Dondria,when people follow you,subscribe to your page or like you,their sending you a very important message,its your job to pay attention and understand what that is.

Before i approached FaceBook about this, i was wrecking my brain trying to think of something to do, that would hit all of her lambs at once,its not many things that can do that,but FaceBook can,to all of the lambs sending me messages,i hope you fully understand this,lets just say if Mariah only had 1 million followers (for laughs) on monday at 11 am each one those million people will recieve a notification of exactly whats going on,REMEMBER!!! this is 1 million people that won’t this notification

The 2nd thing i learned is that internet education is still way down,from the Record labels,Publishing companies,Artist and PR,they still don’t address these content controllers the way they should,and artist of the MC level still don’t use FaceBook to their advantage.as i’m writing this, I’m praying we have all the signatures and legal information taken care of cause just yesterday s**t was going crazy!!and with out me going into details,as much as this may sound like its been done before, it really has’nt

On monday 11/11 at 11 am around the world, you will be able to buy the song,listen to the song and ask Mariah question on her FaceBook page, i hope to see you there

Looking past the grammar errors, this situation sounds like a mess. And he's blaming everyone but himself. And WTH is he comparing Mariah to someone named Dondria? Ugh. It sounds like the facebook deal could be in trouble based on the signatures/legal sentence. And why does JD keep claiming this facebook deal hasn't been done before? Britney just did it last week!

JD sounds illiterate.

[HolidayGuy]

I'm not even sure what the point of that JD message is? Just a bunch of senseless rambling, because, in the end, the song will be available to listen to, buy, etc.

[Deleted]

All we can do this time around is help MC by getting the word out on 11/11. Changing our profile pics, cover pics, updating our status about the 'TAOLG' song and of course buying it. That's all we can really do- Letting people know that there is a new song out. Most people don't know yet. If it spreads like wildfire on Facebook then she has a chance to get this amazing song heard. That's easy for us to do. (It takes no effort at all).

The hard stuff is up to JD and the label. Good luck.

[nitro]

I'm not sure whether JD is COMPLETELY managing... the sense I get is that it is her and Nick Cannon managing, with JD "co-managing" if that (as Mariah said in her BET interview). There's an article on Nick's website from a few days ago that says he is managing her career, and JD is just producing / collaborating.

www.nickcannonarchives.com/25182/mariah-carey-nick-cannon-fun-set

I feel more comfortable with Nick managing her career. After all, he's managed to build a name for himself off of silly shows even before Mariah. Yes, he doesn't have much experience in the music industry, but he's younger, more in touch with what kids want / how kids interact with celebrities than Benny Medina, JD, or more traditional managers. Plus, his incentives will always be aligned with hers, and as long as they're married, he won't steer her wrong. It will be like a little the Tommy / Mariah thing (although Mottola had far more connections and power), but Mariah having much more control.

[Deleted]

^ that blog article says "her hubby Nick, her manager and good friend/producer Jermaine Dupree" The comma implies that Nick is just her hubby and JD is the manager and good friend/producer.

[carrieidol1]

The song will still be ready and available tomorrow, right? So what the fuck is the problem?

Also... It's nice to know Mariah's main manager is literate, literacy goes a long way.

[#LisaRinna]

Nov 9, 2013 19:26:24 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Nov 9, 2013 18:54:44 GMT -5 weaver said:

I searched and found the Heartbreaker review - they gave it an F, and erroneously stated that it sampled Genius of Love, the same song that Fantasy sampled. That really pissed me off when I read it...like hello do your homework! I have always thought Heartbreaker was a fun single but she did veer dangerously close to self-plagiarism on that one...of course not to the degree of sampling the same track twice.

A few sources claimed that about the sample, actually.

"Heartbreaker" does have the same bassline as "Fantasy" and the first line of the chorus has a melody like "Dreamlover," but apart from that I don't get the fuss.

Me neither. And 'Heartbreaker's sample comes from 'Attack of the Name Game'.

[Deleted]

Jermaine managing her is a disaster? Who would have thought?!

[Mariah]

You guys are always so sour and judgemental...Ew. Relax a little bit.

Anyways, only 24 hours to go ! I'm so excited !

[MFM29]

Nov 10, 2013 8:46:49 GMT -5 ephelia said:

All we can do this time around is help MC by getting the word out on 11/11. Changing our profile pics, cover pics, updating our status about the 'TAOLG' song and of course buying it. That's all we can really do- Letting people know that there is a new song out. Most people don't know yet. If it spreads like wildfire on Facebook then she has a chance to get this amazing song heard. That's easy for us to do. (It takes no effort at all).

The hard stuff is up to JD and the label. Good luck.

how do you know this is an amazing song ? have u heard it already?

[Jay D83]

My plan for today - get pass out drunk watching football and then have TAOLG to wake me up at 11AM.

That's the way to do it.

[Ivy Leegue™]

Soo happy I don't have to work tomorrow!