WhySoSerious?
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Post by WhySoSerious? on May 24, 2004 14:02:32 GMT -5
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Post by prenatt1166 on May 24, 2004 14:48:55 GMT -5
This is my favorite track on "Van Lear Rose".
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Post by Evergreen on May 24, 2004 15:36:22 GMT -5
It goes for adds June 1
I think it's kind of a cop out. Portland, Oregon should have been pushed instead of going for the obvious hit.
Unrelated: Loretta is aging extremely well.
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Post by musicfan_84 on May 24, 2004 16:15:07 GMT -5
Portland, Oregon should have been pushed instead of going for the obvious hit. But the whole point of releasing a song to radio is to earn hits... so why should they not release a song that would be a hit?
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Post by ohjohnny on May 24, 2004 16:56:04 GMT -5
Great video. Love Jack playing Loretta's guitar. Can't wait to see the video for "Portland, Oregon." I heard they just shot it at the end of last week.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on May 24, 2004 17:14:32 GMT -5
It goes for adds June 1 I think it's kind of a cop out. Portland, Oregon should have been pushed instead of going for the obvious hit. I think it's pretty obvious country radio wouldn't go for "Portland, Oregon". I don't see what's wrong with pushing a song more appropriate for the format. All the songs are gems, so it doesn't really matter to me.
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Post by Evergreen on May 24, 2004 17:52:46 GMT -5
I think it's pretty obvious country radio wouldn't go for "Portland, Oregon". I don't see what's wrong with pushing a song more appropriate for the format. All the songs are gems, so it doesn't really matter to me. Country radio is way more likely to play "Portland, Oregon" than "Miss Being Mrs."
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Post by WhySoSerious? on May 24, 2004 17:55:07 GMT -5
Country radio is way more likely to play "Portland, Oregon" than "Miss Being Mrs." No they wouldn't. Jack White's name alone would keep them away from it.
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Post by Evergreen on May 24, 2004 18:03:18 GMT -5
No they wouldn't. Jack White's name alone would keep them away from it. If that's the case they aren't going to play any of the album.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on May 24, 2004 20:34:59 GMT -5
If that's the case they aren't going to play any of the album. Uh...this song isn't a duet, so he won't be heard. Plus, "Portland, Oregon" is one of the rockier, edgier sounding cuts. "Miss Being Mrs." is stone cold country. It only makes sense to release a countrier track to country radio.
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Post by Evergreen on May 24, 2004 20:59:36 GMT -5
Uh...this song isn't a duet, so he won't be heard. Plus, "Portland, Oregon" is one of the rockier, edgier sounding cuts. "Miss Being Mrs." is stone cold country. It only makes sense to release a countrier track to country radio. First off, "countrier" is not a word. Second of all, the "rockier" is not a word in the form that you used it. And how isn't "Portland, Oregon" just as country as anything else Loretta Lynn sings? Loretta Lynn spells country, no matter what instruments are backing her. The presence of Jack White is felt throughout the whole album, and even if he isn't on the song, the whole world knows he produced it. So if country has a problem with Jack White (your inferring that they would is ridiculous in the first place), they will still have a problem even though didn't add vocals to the song. He's in the fucking video for goodness sake.
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Post by prenatt1166 on May 24, 2004 21:32:02 GMT -5
Did any of the tracks from "Van Lear Rose" get some country airplay when the album was first released?
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Post by WhySoSerious? on May 24, 2004 21:36:18 GMT -5
First off, "countrier" is not a word. Second of all, the "rockier" is not a word in the form that you used it. And how isn't "Portland, Oregon" just as country as anything else Loretta Lynn sings? Loretta Lynn spells country, no matter what instruments are backing her. The presence of Jack White is felt throughout the whole album, and even if he isn't on the song, the whole world knows he produced it. So if country has a problem with Jack White (your inferring that they would is ridiculous in the first place), they will still have a problem even though didn't add vocals to the song. He's in the f**king video for goodness sake. As much as I love these little spats with you, that's not what this thread is about. I could give a s**t if countrier is a word...I would hope you're able to understand my meaning. Country radio is generally unwelcoming of outsiders. I don't know why you would contend that they'd welcome Jack White with open arms. The Van Lear Rose album was not made with country radio in mind. There's nothing on it that screams radio hit. Releasing "Portland, Oregon" to country radio would be pointless because it is one of the more rock-influenced tracks on the album. It's not like radio has jumped on it. The song's been around for two months now and it's gotten no love at the format. At least by going with the more country sounding "Miss Being Mrs." they have a shot at getting radio to look past the Jack White connection and play the music. Similarly, Johnny Cash couldn't get radio to look past Rick Rubin's influence on his American Recordings albums. He never got a decent sized hit from them despite critical acclaim. Hell, even when Loretta tried appealling to country radio with "Country In My Genes" in 2001 she couldn't get past #60. It's not as if she has a sparkling track record of late to force radio to play anything she releases.
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Post by EvanJ on May 25, 2004 17:35:27 GMT -5
Country radio is generally unwelcoming of outsiders. With Sheryl Crow as an exception.
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Post by Evergreen on May 25, 2004 22:22:29 GMT -5
With Sheryl Crow as an exception. I think Uncle Kracker made his way all the way to number one this year too!
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Post by WhySoSerious? on May 25, 2004 22:35:49 GMT -5
With Sheryl Crow as an exception. If peaking at #35 is welcoming I don't know what unwelcoming would be. The country arrangement of that song and "Picture" were perfectly suited for the format and neither could get into the Top 20. Uncle Kracker is helped by one of the genre's biggest stars at the moment. Anyone could have been on that song and radio still would have played it. Loretta doesn't have that benefit.
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Post by velcro on May 10, 2005 16:53:11 GMT -5
Wow. I'm chiming in real late on this one... but anywhoo.
Sheryl Crowe and Uncle Cracker are far more country-friendly than Jack White will ever be, even though he showed many folk influences in his music.
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