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Post by nick64 on May 13, 2013 21:37:32 GMT -5
Why do I like this? I'm not supposed to like Lana. Ugh
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Post by ListenToItTwice on May 14, 2013 8:30:34 GMT -5
I think that every ticket sold for Gatsby should count as three streams of this song.
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Post by Arrow on May 14, 2013 17:30:12 GMT -5
I also feel that this cut is pretty unspectacular in terms of quality (the Orchestra version is much better and seamlessly fits with her aesthetic), this feels like just another album cut from her -- which doesn't mean it is bad just that it seems middle of the pack considering how great her discography really is. She has tons of songs that are better then this (Video Games), have more commercial appeal (Off To The Races), greater meaning (Born To Die) and superior song writing (Ride). Most of which were released as singles at some point but radio just never played them. This may be a case of right place, right time, awesome promotion. Hopefully Gatsby makes her a real global name as she has broken through pretty much everywhere else at this point. As to Lana's voice being the problem, I don't think so. She is way less grating and niche vocally speaking then say Duffy or the late Amy both whom only had sporadic success. I think the problem stems from the fact that people just don't "get her" they think she is some hipster joke that is lost in an eternal time warp.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 14, 2013 17:32:34 GMT -5
She has had better, more radio-friendly songs, but if this for some reason connects and opens up radio for future singles I won't be complaining.
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Post by hazuki on May 14, 2013 19:25:46 GMT -5
Finally Interscope..
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Post by tommymonster44 on May 14, 2013 19:27:06 GMT -5
One of the many problems that I believe will prevent this from becoming a radio hit is the fact that it won't impact the radio for another week yet. This song has already peaked and is now dropping on iTunes. The public demand train has already left the station.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 14, 2013 21:20:31 GMT -5
The record company shouldve rush released this. They need to push this one hard. I think this has the potential to be bigger than SLY.
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Post by maladroit on May 14, 2013 21:21:08 GMT -5
One of the many problems that I believe will prevent this from becoming a radio hit is the fact that it won't impact the radio for another week yet. This song has already peaked and is now dropping on iTunes. The public demand train has already left the station. Still, I was surprised to see it reach that high in the first place. For an essentially "non-radio" artist, top 10 on iTunes is very impressive. It's been outselling all the other songs on the soundtrack by far - only Fergie and Q-Tip even come close. Sure, most of that is an inevitable byproduct of her cult-like fanbase and Gatsby's opening weekend. But judging by the online reactions to this song, there seems to be a growing interest in Lana among the "nonbelievers" who had written off or ignored her at first - myself included. I don't think this is going away anytime soon.
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Post by Arrow on May 14, 2013 21:36:35 GMT -5
What cult following does Lana have? I don't believe any of the singles from Born To Die or Paradise had any response like the one Young & Beautiful is seeing, even though she has been selling albums pretty well with virtually no radio aid and no promotion stateside it's been incredibly quite on the digital sales front for her. This song is selling entirely because of Gatsby, we'll see if it has legs or not if radio spins it enough though.
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Post by NeRD on May 14, 2013 21:38:09 GMT -5
May 21, 2013 impacting songs Lana Del Rey Interscope Young And Beautiful :O Yes! :'(
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2013 22:36:59 GMT -5
I've never really understood what to think about Lana. I know some time ago there were rumors her whole persona was a phony, but that she openly admitted it. Was there any credibility to those rumors or what?
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Post by Arrow on May 15, 2013 0:23:54 GMT -5
I don't really get the controversy surrounding that. Her material is not really that different from what she was doing as an indie artist for instance. It just seemed like the indie community was mad that she had money, and didn't publicly disclose that. They thought she was this struggling artist who made videos from her computer and lived in a trailer park (which she did at the time of her breakthrough/debut), but once they found out her father was well connected , she was signed to a major label and that she was more or less rich, they got angry with her and felt "betrayed", it's all really odd.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 15, 2013 4:33:57 GMT -5
I dont care. This song is fantastic and every person I recommended it to loves it. I fully expect this to be massive.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 15, 2013 8:09:36 GMT -5
This song is going to be everything the movie was supposed to be and more.
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Post by johnm1120 on May 15, 2013 8:35:32 GMT -5
Please be big!
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Post by Griftor on May 15, 2013 14:39:47 GMT -5
I can see it now:
"Don't miss out on the feel-good hit of the summer!!! Lana Del Rey's Summertime Sadness!!!!"
Seriously though, I do not get the appeal of this woman. She sounds boring and pretentious to me, and wholly unenjoyable. And that SNL performance was indeed dreadful. I'm sure that turned a lot of people off.
My wife loves "The Great Gatsby" as a novel and bought the soundtrack in anticipation of the film release. This song stood out to me as one of the worst offerings on the album. To those of you who like her, more power to you, but I just do not get why some people are so over the moon about her.
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Post by ILLUSION on May 15, 2013 15:59:16 GMT -5
Woah. #10 on iTunes. Is this her highest charting song ever?
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I heard this last night and I absolutely love it. It's so gorgeous. So beautiful. It would be awesome if this does well. I have been a casual fan of Lana's since last year. I could never quite get into her album. I appreciate the artistic and technical value, but I just could not like it as a whole. I do like select singles like "Blue Jeans" and "National Anthem." I don't really get the controversy surrounding that. Her material is not really that different from what she was doing as an indie artist for instance. It just seemed like the indie community was mad that she had money, and didn't publicly disclose that. They thought she was this struggling artist who made videos from her computer and lived in a trailer park (which she did at the time of her breakthrough/debut), but once they found out her father was well connected , she was signed to a major label and that she was more or less rich, they got angry with her and felt "betrayed", it's all really odd. I found it irritating that some used that reason as why they can't like her music or even give it a chance because they feel she isn't real. Who really is? Every artist is putting on some type of act in public even if that act isn't to have one at all. Even if her persona and backstory were manufactured, the music was very real. It's not like she is miming to some other girl who actually sang the vocals. She did write most if not all of the songs. The music should be judged for what it is, not because of what that person is/is not like. Without bringing other artists into it, I must mention that I felt the same way when a lot of the media publications and some people on the interwebs were dragging M.I.A. after that one interview piece came out that tried to expose her as some sort of fraud because her lyrics speak of struggling against the system, socio-political issues, and her persona was about being the underdog, being guerrilla, and doing her art on a shoestring budget, but then the writer got her to order truffle french fries and got her to tell she lived in an expensive suburb--things that she was supposedly against. But at the end of the day, it is her 'thing' to do that sort of music and regardless of how she lives, as long as the work doesn't suffer, it shouldn't be a big issue. This whole dogma or ideology of the singer needing to embody and personify their lyrics in all aspects of their life most if not all of the time is utterly ridiculous to me.
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Post by Soldado de Juguete on May 15, 2013 18:35:34 GMT -5
I love this one! I hope this smash hard! Lana deserves a hit in the USA!
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Post by Nicolexo on May 15, 2013 18:47:03 GMT -5
Woah. #10 on iTunes. Is this her highest charting song ever? In the US, yes by far.
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Post by popbox on May 15, 2013 19:19:59 GMT -5
This song is absolutely divine, and it's put to great use in the movie too. Would love to see CHR on board but not counting on it. Maybe HAC?
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Post by pnobelysk on May 15, 2013 20:31:28 GMT -5
moves from 95 to 59 on the hot 100 this week
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Post by jjose712 on May 18, 2013 8:08:28 GMT -5
Video games, Born to die and Blue Jeans are great songs, and pop didn't touch them (Video games was huge in some european countries). But now pop chart is a lot more diverse, a lot of alternative songs found success, and maybe there is a chance that a Lana del Rey find some love in a pop chart I thought "Blue Jeans" was crazy radio friendly. Really loved that one. I think the whole SNL backlash made everyone in the industry weary for a bit. This is OK. Yes, Blue Jeans is totally radio friendly, not in a typical way, but radio friendly anyway. And yes, that horrid performance on SNL damage her posibilities of having a hit with her singles the first era. I think Video games was top 20 on AAA and that's all. Anyway, sometimes it's very difficult to know what's going to happen with an artist. Adele's first album was full of great songs, but apart of Chasing pavements discret run on Hot AC she didn't get any radio love (and the album sold well). I think Lana is the kind of hit or miss artist, some people love her music, some people hate it. And herself provokes some controversy, it's she fake? it's she pure marketing? When you get indie's success and then you became mainstream you are going to get some strong reactions (that's something i will never understand, it will be understable if the artist change his or her sound to make it more commercial, but if you like someone you don't start to dislike him or her just because more people start to like him/her). So maybe being in the sountrack of a succesfull film it's all what she need to get her first hit on the USA. We'll see, but the reaction on itunes is clearly positive
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Post by BadRomance on May 18, 2013 11:26:38 GMT -5
Just saw The Great Gatsby, there's almost 2-3 versions that plays in the whole movie and it gets addictive. No wonder it's blowing up!
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Post by tommymonster44 on May 18, 2013 12:24:06 GMT -5
One of the many problems that I believe will prevent this from becoming a radio hit is the fact that it won't impact the radio for another week yet. This song has already peaked and is now dropping on iTunes. The public demand train has already left the station. Still, I was surprised to see it reach that high in the first place. For an essentially "non-radio" artist, top 10 on iTunes is very impressive. It's been outselling all the other songs on the soundtrack by far - only Fergie and Q-Tip even come close. Sure, most of that is an inevitable byproduct of her cult-like fanbase and Gatsby's opening weekend. But judging by the online reactions to this song, there seems to be a growing interest in Lana among the "nonbelievers" who had written off or ignored her at first - myself included. I don't think this is going away anytime soon. I'm definitely not knocking down the great success it's seen so far. Many fans believed this to be a radio breakthrough for Lana, but I don't see that happening. She'll stay as an album seller and artistic visionary, which is okay in my book. I've never really understood what to think about Lana. I know some time ago there were rumors her whole persona was a phony, but that she openly admitted it. Was there any credibility to those rumors or what? The thing to understand about Lana is even though she claims everything she says is completely literal with no alternate symbolism, that isn't true. She's being ironic. It's not just her music that is a pop commentary. The "character," Lana Del Rey, is in itself a commentary piece. I think that's where the confusion stems.
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Post by Samer on May 18, 2013 14:54:26 GMT -5
This is a rare instance where releasing a gazillion singles from 5 different albums simultaneously is upping a singer's stocks. Lana has been able to find her niche. Hope this song can reach Top 20. It's a shame "Summertime Sadness" didn't get the recognition it deserves. Beautiful song and video... Hope "Young & Beautiful" corrects that mistake :)
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Post by Keelzit on May 19, 2013 9:38:12 GMT -5
This is #9 on Billboard's Rock Songs chart. I'll never understand why the likes of Lana, Amy Winehouse etc. are considered rock but a top 10 on a US singles chart is better than nothing.
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Post by jebsib on May 19, 2013 10:50:46 GMT -5
Chalis, Your question is age-old. I used to wonder back in 1986 how soft love songs like "These Dreams" by Heart could get to the top on the Billboard Rock Songs chart, but there you go.
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Post by Adam (UTR) on May 21, 2013 15:01:59 GMT -5
Twelve adds this week. They're all smaller to medium-size stations, including one in Las Vegas.
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Post by popbox on May 21, 2013 16:03:46 GMT -5
Chalis, Your question is age-old. I used to wonder back in 1986 how soft love songs like "These Dreams" by Heart could get to the top on the Billboard Rock Songs chart, but there you go. Heart was undoubtedly a rock band. They went poppier in the 80's, but they never stopped being a rock band.
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