Craig Morgan "That's What I Love About Sunday"

[reception]

www1.allaccess.com/sounds/craigtha.ram

It's at #52 this week on the Mediabase country chart.

[reception]

It goes for adds this week.

[gcook]

Our local KTTS has been playing it a lot this week. I never seem to be able to catch the whole song, but when I do I have to mention that I feel it sounds like a cheaper way to say "Rainin' On Sunday".

[EvanJ]

It debuts at Number 74 on the Billboard Hot 100.

[dcowboy77]

Thats what i love about sunday, in its 34th chart week, just moved back into the weekly billboard top 10...perp & others must luv that...I think that just about clinches "2005 song of the year", at least on billboard anyway...also you can see what star power does in country...sundaycan be the song of the year and yet this post has only 5 replies in it because its by little known craig morgan...meanwhile the faith hill post has 180 replies already...cant beat star power !!!

[jimmy74747]

The other thing is his album isn't selling for crap. How can this song be so popular if no one is spending their money on it? I just don't get it.

[Perp]

Craig lost only about 250,000 or so in audience on Billboard this week. That's an incredibly small decline for a song as fossilized as 'Sunday'. I've given up seeing it go away, at this point.

Good point there, Skywalker, about how this song generated no 'buzz' here on the board at all. Star power has a strong pull, for sure.

Even if the CD sales for Craig aren't going nuts, at least the songwriter(s) are getting independently wealthy on the royalties. :) Who wrote it?

[northerncountry]

Craig was a writer or co-writer on most of the songs on his new album. I believe there were 4 songs that he didn't write or co-write, and "That's What I Love About Sunday" and "Redneck Yacht Club" were 2 of the 4 songs.

The songwriters for TWILAS are Adam Dorsey and Mark Narmore. Can't say I've heard their names before.

[drock89]

Also shows you how stuck radio is on recurrents and older material..

[Jim King]

dcowboy said:

and yet this post has only 5 replies in it because its by little known craig morgan...meanwhile the faith hill post has 180 replies already...cant beat star power !!!

Now we know two things that have no effect on chart position...cd sales and posts on this board.

~ Jim

[Marv]

Now he's a mortal-lock to wind up in this years top five!!!!

[Zazie]

marv said:

Now he's a mortal-lock to wind up in this years top five!!!!

Top 2, you could also add. And I make him a favorite to be #1 on R&R, although that's not so clear.

And a heavy favorite to be #1 on Billboard. And he has a great chance to be #1, or at worst #2, by American Country Countdown's point method.

And yet I've heard he's focusing mostly on his failure to attract posts here. He's feeling very discouraged about that. Maybe his new song will come through....

[musicbuff78]

Billboard and American Country Countdown are the same thing.

[northerncountry]

While the American Country Countdown uses the Billboard chart for its weekly show, the year-end countdown is based on BB chart data, but they use their own calculations and it is a different chart than the year-end list that is found in Billboard's year-end issue.

So it is quite possible that Craig Morgan could be #1 on the BB year-end list but #2 on the American Country Countdown year-end show.

[Zazie]

steelo said:

Billboard and American Country Countdown are the same thing.

Have you ever looked at the end-of-year Billboard lists and ACC lists? They never resemble each other. Not even close. They're more different from each other than the BB list is from the R&R list.

[Topay]

In the last ten years, the only two times Billboard and ACC disagreed on the year-end #1 song were in 1995 and 2003. In 1995, Billboard called "Sold (The Grundy Co. Auction Incident)" by JMM the #1 song of the year while ACC gave the honors to Tim McGraw's "I Like It, I Love It". In 2003, Billboard called "My Front Porch Looking In" the top song while ACC called "It's 5:00 Somewhere" the #1 song of the year.

My point: usually ACC and Billboard agree on the #1 song of the year, but because ACC uses full runs for all songs in a single year, there could be some huge differences for other songsbetween BB and ACC, mostly with songs that straddle the line between 2 chart years ("I Love This Bar" is a great example of a song that ended up below #50 for 2004 because of its weeks in 2003. ACC put that as #2 for last year, or "That's What It's All About", which is bound to be in a very low position for both 2004 and 2005 because of its straddling of the chart year).

Now, as for Craig: After seeing non-A list stars get bumped at the end of the year (Steve Holy in 2002, Mark Wills in 2003), I think ACC may finally give a non-superstar the honors of #1 song of the year.

[Zazie]

I agree with that -- I think they were probably relieved not to have to give it to Holy or Wills, whose songs were outgunned by big stars who had better chart runs. But I do think they made the right call, objectively, and I have no way of knowing what they'd have done if Good Stuff and 5:00 hadn't emerged.

I think they'll hesitate to give it to Craig, but his song is lasting so long -- and each of the other big #1 songs climbed too fast to have a comparably long run. So I think he'll get it.

Some Beach is this year's example of a song that won't be ranked very high by RR or BB in either year, but will have a top 5 end-of-year position on ACC due to their way of calculating. Same, at a slightly lower level, for Nothin' On But the Radio.

[Topay]

I feel wierd posting all this ACC stuff here and not on the ACC board, but anyhoo:

Perhaps we'll see a repeat of 1999 and 2000, where the obvious "Amazed" and "How Do You Like Me Now?!" reigned supreme all around the board. Toby and Lonestar were not-quite superstars (yet, although that did mark the beginning of Toby's shining star), although they were both fairly established acts with at least 2 previous #1's apiece, whereas Craig only has one other Top 10 to his name.

[musicbuff78]

zazie said:

steelo said:

Billboard and American Country Countdown are the same thing.

Have you ever looked at the end-of-year Billboard lists and ACC lists? They never resemble each other. Not even close. They're more different from each other than the BB list is from the R&R list.

Did I ever ask you to jump down my throat? I don't know where to find those stupid lists. I was just using the logic that since ACC uses Billboard that they would be one in the same,.

[Zazie]

Steelo: nice self-pity there. You don't have any trouble dishing out rudeness, but a little bit of directness back and you start whining.

A few comments: one, you posted as if you knew something you didn't. Two, you assumed that all the distinctions I was making between Billboard and ACC were based on nothing, which I find offensive. Three, your little post added nothing except rudeness to a discussion that was going fine without you.

Here's an offer I hope you can accept: I won't tell you how to post, and you won't tell me how to post. I will call you on your ignorance and rudeness, as if you were a little child, whenever I want to. And you may respond however you like. My give-a-d*mn's busted.

[musicbuff78]

LOL....too flippin' funny. I didn't post as if I knew something.....I just stated something I thought was true using LOGIC. But I don't really need to make any excuses so if you want to talk to me as if I were a child, go ahead.....we would at least know how childish you get.

As far as criticizing....I take it very well actually...just must be how you read things, which is pretty impossible to do by words alone.

And like your post added anything but rudeness?????? HA...DUH!

Now....continue on with the REAL topic everyone please.

[Marv]

Was Steve Holy #1 for the year in 2002 in BB?

I know he needed something like 24 weeks to get to #1 in R&R, and the final three weeks of his five-week run @ #1 (in R&R) were bulletless, and I BELIEVE he wouind up #3 behind 'My List' & 'Drive (For Daddy Gene)'.

Followup question; since Billboard picked ;Live Like You Were Dying' as 2004's #1 song, while R&R declared 'Remember When', which of those (or another tune) topped the ACC year-end chart?

[Topay]

marv said:

Was Steve Holy #1 for the year in 2002 in BB?

I know he needed something like 24 weeks to get to #1 in R&R, and the final three weeks of his five-week run @ #1 (in R&R) were bulletless, and I BELIEVE he wouind up #3 behind 'My List' & 'Drive (For Daddy Gene)'.

Followup question; since Billboard picked ;Live Like You Werer Dying' as 2004's #1 song, while R&R declared 'Remember When', which of those (or another tune) topped the ACC year-end chart?

Didn't mean to confuse you there, Marv. What I meant by my post was that Steve looked good to have the #1 song of the year on Billboard/ACC well into the year. It wasn't till August or so when Kenny had his triumph at #1 with "The Good Stuff" and became the clear answer for YE #1 on both Billboard and ACC.

When I said "bumped at the end of the year", I meant that a song came out later in the chart year and managed to surpass the early-year thought-to-be winner. "The Good Stuff" and "5:00 Somewhere", whose last weeks at #1 were in September, are both examples of that.

Here's a short recap of YE #1 songs since 2000 to avoid any further confusion with that concept:

2000
How Do You Like Me Now?! (BB, ACC, R&R)

2001
Ain't Nothin' 'Bout You (BB, ACC, R&R)

2002
My List (R&R)
The Good Stuff (ACC, BB)

2003
My Front Porch Looking In (BB)
It's 5:00 Somewhere (ACC)
19 Somethin' (R&R)

2004
Live Like You Were Dying (BB, ACC)
Remember When (R&R)