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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 28, 2013 12:09:39 GMT -5
EW has a 100 All Time Greatest edition, and, of course, it has an albums list.
The magazine had done a list that covered 1983-2008 several years ago. Not surprisingly, it strayed from the order for albums from that period on this list. For instance, albums ranked lower on that list appear on this list, while albums that ranked higher don't.
1. The Beatles, Revolver 2. Prince, Purple Rain 3. The Rolling Stones, Exile on Main Street 4. Michael Jackson, Thriller 5. The Clash, London Calling 6. Bob Dylan, Blood on the Tracks 7. Aretha Franklin, Lady Soul 8. Kanye West, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 9. The Beach Boys, Pet Sounds 10. Nirvana, Nevermind 11. Joni Mitchell, Blue 12. The Beatles, The White Album 13. Marvin Gaye, What's Going On 14. Johnny Cash, At Folsom Prison 15. Bruce Springsteen, Born to Run 16. Elvis Presley, Sunrise [anthology] 17. Adele, 21 18. Paul Simon, Graceland 19. Al Green, Call Me 20. The Rolling Stones, Beggars Banquet 21. Stevie Wonder, Innervisions 22. The Beatles, Abbey Road 23. U2, Achtung Baby 24. Daft Punk, Discovery 25. Bob Marley and the Wailers, Catch a Fire 26. Jimi Hendrix Experience, Are You Experienced 27. Bob Dylan, Highway 61 Revisited 28. Lauryn Hill, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill 29. Fleetwood Mac, Rumours 30. Otis Redding, Otis Blue: Otis Redding Sings Soul 31. The Notorious B.I.G., Ready to Die 32. Guns N' Roses, Appetite for Destruction 33. Wu-Tang Clan, Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) 34. David Bowie, The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars 35. The Rolling Stones, Some Girls 36. Jay-Z, The Blueprint 37. Pink Floyd, The Dark Side of the Moon 38. The Velvet Underground, The Velvet Underground & Nico 39. The Who, Who's Next 40. John Lennon, John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band 41. Eminem, The Marshall Mathers LP 42. AC/DC, Back in Black 43. Madonna, Madonna 44. Michael Jackson, Off the Wall 45. Radiohead, OK Computer 46. The Beatles, Rubber Soul 47.The Cure, Disintegration 48. Outkast, Stankonia 49. LCD Soundsystem, Sound of Silver 50. The Smiths, The Queen is Dead 51. Chuck Berry, The Great Twenty-Eight [anthology] 52. A Tribe Called Quest, The Low End Theory 53. The Flaming Lips, The Soft Bulletin 54. R.E.M., Lifes Rich Pageant 55. Nas, Illmatic 56. Arcade Fire, Funeral 57. Alicia Keys, Songs in A Minor 58. Dr. Dre, The Chronic 59. Metallica, Master of Puppets 60. Beck, Odelay 61. De La Soul, 3 Feet High and Rising 62. The Replacements, Let It Be 63. Television, Marquee Moon 64. Nine Inch Nails, The Downward Spiral 65. Love, Forever Changes 66. Hole, Live Through This 67. Neil Young, After the Gold Rush 68. Public Enemy, It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back 69. Sonic Youth, Daydream Nation 70. Iggy and the Stooges, Raw Power 71. The Kinks, The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society 72. Beastie Boys, Paul's Boutique 73. Various Artists,The Harder They Come 74. Amy Winehouse, Back to Black 75. Elvis Costello, My Aim is True 76. Talking Heads, Remain in Light 77. My Bloody Valentine, Loveless 78. Bjork, Post 79. Led Zeppelin, Led Zeppelin IV 80. Elton John, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road 81. Pixies, Doolittle 82. Pavement, Slanted and Enchanted 83. James Brown, In the Jungle Groove [anthology] 84. Patti Smith, Horses 85. Tom Waits, Rain Dogs 86. PJ Harvey, Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea 87. Dolly Parton, Coat of Many Colors 88. New Order, Power, Corruption and Lies 89. Sleater-Kinney, Dig Me Out 90. The White Stripes, White Blood Cells 91. Sly and the Family Stone, There's a Riot Goin' On 92. Elliott Smith, Either/Or 93. N.W.A. Straight Outta Compton 94 Beyonce, B'Day 95. Various Artists, Saturday Night Fever 96. Dixie Chicks, Home 97. Dusty Springfield, Dusty in Memphis 98. Queens of the Stone Age, Songs for the Deaf 99. Erykah Badu, Mama's Gun 100. Ramones, Ramones
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jun 28, 2013 14:01:20 GMT -5
94 Beyonce, B'Day *Throws Laptop Out the Window*
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jun 28, 2013 14:02:28 GMT -5
Madonna's debut album as her best? Oooookay there......
And I wish America would hop off the Adele ass kissing already. I can already imagine the grand expectations 25 will have when released next year.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 28, 2013 14:10:31 GMT -5
Yeha, EW has a hard** for Madge's first album. Is it enjoyable and have classics on it? Yes. But how can it be her best, when stacked against Like a Prayer, Ray of Light, etc.
Madonna's debut probably is her most influential, though- while it's not the be-all-end-all for dance-pop, you can trace any dance-pop that followed back to that album.
Nirvana's Nevermind wasn't on the 83-08 list (MTV Unplugged in New York was), but it's No. 10 here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2013 14:10:57 GMT -5
EW has a 100 All Time Greatest edition, and, of course, it has an albums list. The magazine had done a list that covered 1983-2008 several years ago. Not surprisingly, it strayed from the order for albums from that period on this list. For instance, albums ranked lower on that list appear on this list, while albums that ranked higher don't. Statistically based lists don't change much over time unless you change the method. Opinion based lists will be based on who makes them
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 28, 2013 14:26:31 GMT -5
^Oh, I know. But there are some drastic differences- could be a result of changing staff, whatnot.
Beyonce's Dangerously in Love was No. 19 on the 83-08 list; it's not on this new list, yet B'Day appears. Some other acts also had a different album on the prior list.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2013 14:32:18 GMT -5
Dance-pop as a genre usually does not fare well on these sort of lists because the genre (generally speaking) is pretty vanilla.
There are few albums that will stand out over others. As such they do not hold up well over time. (Most - not all obviously)
The catalog chart is another indicator, that is rock dominated(few dance titles), these lists are as well.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 28, 2013 14:56:48 GMT -5
94 Beyonce, B'Day*Throws Laptop Out the Window* Finally some recognition!!!
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Post by slicknickshady on Jun 28, 2013 16:29:35 GMT -5
41. Eminem, The Marshall Mathers LP - Severely underrated.
And no Tool albums. A Joke.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jun 28, 2013 16:48:41 GMT -5
8. Kanye West, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
That's damn high.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 28, 2013 17:55:31 GMT -5
Nice to see Dixie Chicks on here. No Gaga though :(
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2013 18:45:33 GMT -5
Revolver, The White Album, Abbey Road, Rubber Soul but no Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band?
Okey dokey.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 28, 2013 19:48:32 GMT -5
^That would have been too predictable. EW, bein' all anti-establishment.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jun 28, 2013 20:11:56 GMT -5
Nice to see Dixie Chicks on here. I didn't even notice! That is a nice inclusion. And Home of all albums!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 29, 2013 17:09:54 GMT -5
Home is an example of an album that ranked low on the 83-08 list, but does better here (lower rank, but it's all time, not just a 25-year period) was No. 85 on EW's 83-08 list
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Post by cking33 on Jun 30, 2013 17:23:27 GMT -5
This list is a head scratcher, for sure.
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Post by Kurt on Jun 30, 2013 18:08:08 GMT -5
I am dismayed at the noticeable lack of Hitbullegend on this list. :(
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 1, 2013 0:19:21 GMT -5
Like I'm still perplexed by B'Day being on there but not something like Rhythm Nation 1814. I mean damn. I know they got to toss Beyonce in there for endorsement reasons but.....
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Post by horchata on Jul 1, 2013 1:03:14 GMT -5
Remain In Light should be higher.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2013 1:25:29 GMT -5
8. Kanye West, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy That's damn high. Right? And above Pet Sounds. Live Through This is an interesting inclusion. I'm not mad at the list though. Any list that includes Forever Changes has some merit.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 1, 2013 8:52:11 GMT -5
I know, right, Trombones? With all the acclaim he and his albums have racked up, I thought Hitbulllegend would have been a shoo-in.
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Post by Ballroom Blitzed on Jul 1, 2013 15:40:09 GMT -5
Don't these lists usually have one or two token jazz inclusions? And aren't they always Kind Of Blue or A Love Supreme?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 1, 2013 16:14:19 GMT -5
I think there was a note about how it was genres that filled their iPods or whatever (and jazz wasn't one of them mentioned).
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Post by when the pawn... on Jul 1, 2013 16:28:38 GMT -5
Albums from the 21st century... 1. Kanye West, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (8) 2. Adele, 21 (17) 3. Daft Punk, Discovery (24) 4. Jay-Z, The Blueprint (36) 5. Eminem, The Marshall Mathers LP (41) 6. Outkast, Stankonia (48) 7. LCD Soundsystem, Sound of Silver (49) 8. Arcade Fire, Funeral (56) 9. Alicia Keys, Songs in A Minor (57) 10. Amy Winehouse, Back to Black (74) 11. PJ Harvey, Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea (86) 12. The White Stripes, White Blood Cells (90) 13. Beyonce, B'Day (94) 14. Dixie Chicks, Home (96) 15. Queens of the Stone Age, Songs for the Deaf (98) 16. Erykah Badu, Mama's Gun (99)
I'm a huge Beyoncé fan but looking at it this way, B'Day looks even more out of place, no? Better pop/mainstream choices could've been FutureSex/LoveSounds, American Idiot, The Fame, Tha Carter III, A Rush of Blood to the Head
Also a bit disappointed to not see Jagged Little Pill or any Fiona Apple on there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2013 19:25:33 GMT -5
from EW
By now, youâve probably combed through Entertainment Weeklyâs All Time Greatest issue, which features our humble picks for the 100 best albums ever made. (Within certain paremetersâthe lack of jazz or, you know, Beethoven should have tipped you off to the listâs limitations.)
Though Iâm proud of the amount of hip-hop, R&B, and pop featured on the final tally of 100, the list is dominated by rock albums. Thatâs to be expected, as rock music (and particularly the albums made by the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, and Bob Dylan) set the template for what an album was and what it could be, and there have been few variations on that template since the â60s. (For all its forward-thinking and genre-hopping, Kanye Westâs My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is structured and paced an awful lot like a Beatles LP.)
Plus, traditional rock music had a few decadesâ worth of a jump on other genres we incorporated into our list, so Rubber Soul and Blonde On Blonde have had an extra 20 years to constantly re-entrench themselves, while the legacies of the first wave of great hip-hop albums are only now just being established.
But another pattern emerged as we were putting the list together: As we considered newer albums to incorporate into the conversation, fewer and fewer of them were rock albums.
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The newest straight-ahead rock albums on the list are Queens of the Stone Ageâs 2002 release Songs for the Deaf (number 98) and Arcade Fireâs 2004 debut Funeral (56). (Though Funeral would certainly fall under the genre tag of âindie rock,â that albumâs adherence to orchestral flourishes and church organ make it almost a series of anti-rock gestures.) The rest of the ânewerâ rock albums are few and far betweenâin fact, the White Stripesâ 2001 album White Blood Cells is the only other 21st century rock album that we put on the list (and you can have PJ Harveyâs 2000 Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea if you really want to argue about it, but considering Harveyâs â90s output, that doesnât necessarily qualify as rock either). Several others were considered, including the Yeah Yeah Yeahsâ Fever To Tell, the Strokesâ Is This It? and Green Dayâs American Idiot, but nothing felt transcendent enough to be included (Fever is too inconsistent, Is This It? is aging poorly, and American Idiot tends to get tripped up by its narrative).
A writer friend of mine once referred to grunge as ârockâs last best thing.â What he meant was it was the last time guitar-based music would find itself at the center of any kind of monoculture (mostly because the very idea of monoculture, especially in music, is pretty much dead, âGet Luckyâ notwithstanding). But was that also the end of consistently great rock albums? Or has the long shadow of those â60s greats made it harder to consider the greatness of a rock album?
More importantly, I ask you a simple question: What was the last truly great rock album? And what does a rock album need to do to go toe-to-toe with all those canonical legends from half a century ago? Sound off in the comments and listen in Tuesday afternoon at 2 PM Eastern on Entertainment Weekly Radio (SiriusXM 105) when our music staff discusses the picks in our All Time Greatest issue, on stands now.
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Post by Positive Tension on Jul 1, 2013 22:28:29 GMT -5
Yeha, EW has a hard** for Madge's first album. Is it enjoyable and have classics on it? Yes. But how can it be her best, when stacked against Like a Prayer, Ray of Light, etc. Madonna's debut probably is her most influential, though- while it's not the be-all-end-all for dance-pop, you can trace any dance-pop that followed back to that album. Nirvana's Nevermind wasn't on the 83-08 list ( MTV Unplugged in New York was), but it's No. 10 here. While I think ROL and LAP are her best albums, the debut album is easily third for me. It's a tight album full of classics that still sound terrific today. I'm glad it got recognition in this list. Glad to see OK Computer, Live Through This, and Funeral on the list.
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Post by SPRÎÎ on Jul 2, 2013 2:23:25 GMT -5
what is Kanye doing in the Top 10? That seems weird to me. Of all time? I don't know anyone who is listening to that album.
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Post by tshawn74 on Jul 3, 2013 9:49:58 GMT -5
94 Beyonce, B'Day*Throws Laptop Out the Window* This is why I only trust Billboard
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2013 9:57:48 GMT -5
Would Billboard rank Beyonce higher on an all-time albums list?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 3, 2013 10:42:56 GMT -5
^Yah- I don't get the correlation, either. :)
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