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Post by ♛ The Manticore ☯ on Jul 3, 2013 11:09:55 GMT -5
Tiësto Disses Daft Punk; "The Music Doesn't Deliver On The Hype"The world's highest-grossing DJ, Tiësto is sparking controversy by dissing Daft Punk during an interview with Huffington Post. In what slowly erupts as quite a statement towards the French Duo, Tiësto makes claims about the 'fake' hype surrounding Random Access Memories, the notoriously best-selling "Get Lucky," and the Daft Punk legacy as a whole. "It got so much attention because it’s so different and it’s an attitude album. It’s cool to like Daft Punk. Even if you’re not into the song, as soon as you hear [“Get Lucky’”], you see all the cool people go, ‘Oh yeah, this is cool, that’s my song,’ and they don’t really even enjoy it. I’m destroying them now, sorry Daft Punk.”Apparently he's not sorry as Tiësto continues his tirade against the robots, citing that their legacy and 'cool factor' creates a certain illusion behind their music and popularity. “But because it’s Daft Punk and they’re supposed to be cool and they had the amazing pyramid at Coachella a couple of years ago and the helmets — they’re f**king cool. But the music doesn’t deliver on the hype so much.”To prove his point, he approaches a group of excited women when "Get Lucky" drops at the club: “I said, 'Lemme ask you a question; do you really like this song?’ And they went quiet and were like, ‘Uh…it’s all right, it’s all right.’ That’s what I mean. Because it’s Daft Punk and we want to believe the hype; we are cool people so we have to think this is cool.”Although Tiësto confessed he was a fan of the group's earlier work, it obviously didn't deter him from going in on Thomas and Guy-Manuel like he did. One can only wonder what will come of this. A DJ freestyle battle? A fight to the death? Only time will tell. www.vibe.com/article/tiesto-disses-daft-punk-music-doesnt-deliver-hypeDutch mega-star Tiesto had some time while he was in Las Vegas to hang out with his personal idol and recent Daft Punk collaborator Giorgio Moroder. According to the Dutch DJ, Moroder stayed through Tiesto‘s three hour set at Hakkasan and is still partying hard at age 73. Speaking about the experience Tiesto remarked, ”He’s in his seventies and still rocking strong. We did shots together and it was fun to hang out together. I was honoured that he came actually.” Personal opinion aside, Tiesto is planning on sitting down with Giorgio Moroder soon, opening up the possibility of a future collaboration between the prolific artists. Obviously the 73 year old still has the energy to not only contribute to the musical portion of the scene but also the live party element as well, so it will be interesting to see what he still has in store.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 3, 2013 11:42:05 GMT -5
Tiësto needs to have several seats with his generic ass. The reason the women responded like that is because you did some creeper sh!t while you were drunk by approaching them and asking them that question. The hesitation in their answer proves that.
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Post by MikeCheck12 on Jul 3, 2013 11:44:53 GMT -5
"Destroys"?
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Post by velaxti on Jul 3, 2013 14:13:46 GMT -5
A lot of dance fans don't seem to like Daft Punk's album, however, it has broad appeal outside fans of that genre (and people who liked dance music pre-2007 but don't anymore). And also, I think a lot of people appreciate them taking dance music back to its roots. I don't know if Daft Punk really think this, but I felt from listening to their album that they're not happy with the way dance music is perceived today, and they wanted to do something to counter that.
Tiesto is kind of right about the clubs though. The reception to Get Lucky is really extreme sometimes. I remember like a day after the song came out I went clubbing and the song came on and everybody was so happy and singing the song. The more shocking thing was that it was after a DAY and everybody already knew the words. There's some big hits where it's months till I ever hear them in a club, and even then some people don't seem to know the song.
Although I feel Tiesto is maybe a bit jealous. I've been clubbing so many times the past few years, all I ever hear from him are his song with Gotye, his song with Busta Rhymes and Adiago For Strings. Off the top of my head, those are the only Tiesto songs I've ever heard in a club...
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jul 3, 2013 14:20:28 GMT -5
I think Get Lucky sounds fantastic on the radio (especially slightly sped-up) and it deserves all the success it's getting. As for the album, I streamed it when it first came out, I still haven't purchased it. I know I should (as a fan), but it's not really anything super exciting, and Tiesto does have a point. However, he is super jealous obviously, as the album is a WW hit, and with it being available to streaming services and youtube, people aren't just buying the entire album based off Get Lucky.
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Post by chartfreak on Jul 3, 2013 14:33:05 GMT -5
Jealous much?
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Post by ♛ The Manticore ☯ on Jul 3, 2013 16:29:41 GMT -5
Is there a reason Tiesto should even be jealous? Tiesto's net worth is around $65 million dollars, he's the highest paid DJ in the world something like half a million dollars per show, a couple of mansions, a private jet, and more. Plus I remember a few months ago on Fuse TV where they counted down the 50 richest musicians in the world (hosted by Kat Graham) and Tiesto & David Guetta were the only two DJ's that made the list as far as I can remember.
As far as what he says, I agree 50% of it. There were two or three songs that I liked from Random Access Memories and I appreciate what Daft Punk tried to do as they were critical with the todays EDM but at the same time even when no one knew what the tracks were, there was way too many hype with the teasers and all.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 3, 2013 16:34:51 GMT -5
His music hasn't garnered the acclaim like Daft Punk's music. Yeah he has reason to be jealous. Just because you have money doesn't excuse the fact that he is generic. It's funny that you names Guetta as well because his music is in the same vein.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jul 3, 2013 16:40:52 GMT -5
A lot of the Dance music and Daft Punk fans I know absolutely hated the Daft Punk album and felt they were duped. Some of them went as far as hating anyone else who remotely liked the album.
I can understand what Tiesto is saying, but he does not need to drag them like this to make the point. He is already one of the most successful DJs in the world. He may not be a household name, but he doesn't need to be.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 3, 2013 16:42:48 GMT -5
It's the Huffington Post. They "destroy" their own headlines. This ain't news. It's gossip!
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jul 3, 2013 16:49:13 GMT -5
Tiesto, imo, is in the same league as Paul Oakenfold. Dj's who are still in the game, and haven't "retired" yet, even tho their prime is years and years ago. They are getting paid because of their name, not because they make the latest groundbreaking music. Does Tiesto deserve to be paid 500k per show? I don't believe that, but if that IS true, that's a total ripoff. I've seen Daft Punk live and it's an amazing show, probably the best light show I've ever seen.
All my favs from the late 90's are pretty much retired cuz they are in their 40's, have hearing problems (which is 100% legit), or have simply grown out of the scene, and believe it's just not the same as it used to be.
I hope Daft Punk makes a RAM remix album, cuz i'll surely check that out. I hope it's not just Get Lucky and that's it.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jul 3, 2013 16:54:53 GMT -5
Tiesto, imo, is in the same league as Paul Oakenfold. Dj's who are still in the game, and haven't "retired" yet, even tho their prime is years and years ago. They are getting paid because of their name, not because they make the latest groundbreaking music. Aside from their name, they have a way of playing some great songs and create this nice musical journey. Having heard both of them play live in the early 2000s, I would say they do a great job of that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2013 17:08:44 GMT -5
To prove his point, he approaches a group of excited women when "Get Lucky" drops at the club. I can only imagine the type of club that this Tiësto guy goes to. Probably some lowbrow, hole in the wall holes in the ceiling, type of place; complete with back-alley abortions and no cover. They're probably still twerking (or at least trying to) to that Carly Rae Jepsen song of yesteryear there while they do shots of three dollar jager bombs that the owner watered down to save money on. Meanwhile, all of the important people are at the lavish nightclubs; and you can be sure they are dirty grinding to Daft Punk there and enjoying every minute of it. Drinking their top shelf long island iced teas and drunkenly singing along to "Get Lucky" there's no denying it's a hit with the refined upper class of society. Meanwhile their children are using their parents credit cards to download Random Access Memories from iTunes and stream their favourite Daft Punk tracks on Spotify while on their way to school in their Lexuses. These are the popular kids of course, the head cheerleaders, prom queens, quarterback of the football team, etc... Of course they share their enjoyment of the song within their social circles and the song spreads throughout high schools, college campuses, and workplaces. Really a song for everyone to enjoy~ The hype is delivered Tiësto; sorry you were too busy with your stale production that is the DiGiorno frozen pizza of EDM~ :kii: But yeah, I don't really see anything as 'over-hyped'; Daft Punk were working with a new generation or listeners and their succeeded while at the same time keeping their appeal to the generation that grew up with them. Good for them!
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jul 3, 2013 17:23:29 GMT -5
To prove his point, he approaches a group of excited women when "Get Lucky" drops at the club. I can only imagine the type of club that this Tiësto guy goes to. Probably some lowbrow, hole in the wall holes in the ceiling, type of place; complete with back-alley abortions and no cover lol. I don't really think the topic about what people think of Daft Punk is really what people discuss in a nightclub, upscale or totally bootleg. It might have just caught those people he asked off guard. They probably were like, "ummm...they're okay" in a hurry to get this guy away from them (even if he is Tiesto). If someone walked up to me in a club and asked me, "hi, what do you think of ________?", chances are I will give an answer that gets them away from me as quickly and drama-free as possible.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jul 3, 2013 17:28:45 GMT -5
the thing with DJ's nowadays is that it's so commercialized. They are making "songs" and making them with mainstream artists. Back in the day, I didn't go to raves because my favorite DJ's played certain songs of theirs. I went to those parties because I knew that those DJ's would create a vibe and environment in which I loved and felt connected to. The whole set was one big experience. There was nothing mainstream about it. If I knew one of my favs was headlining the night, I knew for a fact that around 2am, they would be playing on the main stage and I would be at my peak (drug-wise, sorry but it's true) and the whole vibe would somehow catapult the entire night into some transcendental emotional moment. When you looked at flyers, you thought "yea, that's what THAT party will be like" cuz you remember the feeling associated with that DJ. It had nothing to do with songs. It was the whole entire set.
nowadays it's like, "oh I hope he plays this, and I hope he plays that!"
back then, it was more of an all-encompassing thing. It's hard to explain, you really had to be there in the 90's to understand what i'm saying.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 3, 2013 17:30:42 GMT -5
It could be worse. You could be in gay bars / clubs that still play hip hop songs on a loop as if it's still 2004.
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Post by ♛ The Manticore ☯ on Jul 3, 2013 17:38:05 GMT -5
the thing with DJ's nowadays is that it's so commercialized. They are making "songs" and making them with mainstream artists. Back in the day, I didn't go to raves because my favorite DJ's played certain songs of theirs. I went to those parties because I knew that those DJ's would create a vibe and environment in which I loved and felt connected to. The whole set was one big experience. There was nothing mainstream about it. If I knew one of my favs was headlining the night, I knew for a fact that around 2am, they would be playing on the main stage and I would be at my peak (drug-wise, sorry but it's true) and the whole vibe would somehow catapult the entire night into some transcendental emotional moment. When you looked at flyers, you thought "yea, that's what THAT party will be like" cuz you remember the feeling associated with that DJ. It had nothing to do with songs. It was the whole entire set. nowadays it's like, "oh I hope he plays this, and I hope he plays that!" back then, it was more of an all-encompassing thing. It's hard to explain, you really had to be there in the 90's to understand what i'm saying. You'll be glad to know that DJ Steve Aoki agrees with you. He said on Fuse recently that EDM is it's own island, DJ's/EDM don't need major labels or mainstream, only pop artist/bands do which makes sense. Here's the video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKrO3iPAIKQ
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Post by ♛ The Manticore ☯ on Jul 3, 2013 18:06:00 GMT -5
"f**k YEAH I wanna f**king do this!!!!!" HAHA, who feels like hanging out with Steve Aoki? He seems like someone fun to chill and hangout with. Love the whole caking the crowds. I also like the example he explained regarding Rihanna and the imaging/music video/vocals in that pop artist needs radio and mainstream. I remember that movie that his half sister (Devon Aoki) was in "Dead or Alive" based on the video game.
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Post by spooky21 on Jul 4, 2013 2:12:52 GMT -5
Daft Punk's album may not have lived up to the hype, but it is still vastly more creative and innovative than the repetitive deep thumping base line crap that Tiesto tends to regurgitate. Daft Punk's attention to intricate musical details, sonic quality and instrumental versatility is something Tiesto has never and will never achieve.
Until he can produce that level of complex musicality, he needs to sit his ass down and stick to DJ'ing for super clubs in Ibiza with massive crowds who are mostly too drugged or drunk to care about what is abusing their eardrums.
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Post by SuperTrouper on Jul 4, 2013 6:58:49 GMT -5
I believe certain artists *do* benefit from the "cool to like" factor. It's definitely one of the factors that helps a song become a hit.
Random Access Memories delivered tho.
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Post by ¤ Matthea ¤ on Jul 4, 2013 7:24:32 GMT -5
To be honest, I don't get the Daft Punk hype either. "Get Lucky" is their first song I've ever heard, and while it's catchy, it's nothing special and it got old for me really fast. I also don't really like this funky sound that seems to be all the rage right now. Sounds so dated.
I'm underwhelmed by this year's summer hits in general.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Jul 5, 2013 4:34:21 GMT -5
I also don't really like this funky sound that seems to be all the rage right now. Sounds so dated. The song is a throwback to 1970s Disco. Nile Rogers of Disco group Chic was heavily involved in that song so naturally it would be in that style.
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