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Post by Marv on Mar 22, 2005 16:42:04 GMT -5
Top 5 artists right now...
Tim Kenny Toby Alan B&D
(The race for top singles artist of 2005 is between Tim & Kenny)
Last 5 years...
Tim George Toby Alan Brooks & Dunn
Waiting to be anointed as superstars...
Brad Paisley (if 2004 didn't do it, 2005 certainly will!!!) Gretchen Wilson Keith Urban Rascal Flatts
Last 10 years...
George Tim Alan B&D Shania Twain
Cinsdiering that Kenny Cesney was the second most seen live artist of 2004 according to a recent BB cover story, I might be shortchanging him, but he is certainly as consistent on the charts as anybody. He's had at least 4 songs peak at #2 in the past three years, but that's just bad timing more than the quality of his music.
I don't remember the last time he missed the top 5; he undoubtedly has the longest such streak of anybody out there.
It's been awhile, so welcome back to the airwaves...
Lee Ann Womack Jo Dee Messina LeAnn Rimes Deana Carter
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Mar 22, 2005 17:02:55 GMT -5
Just wondering how the ladies stack up over the past 10 years. From 1995 through today:
Faith Hill Top 40 hits: 22 Top 10 hits: 15 Top 5 hits: 11 #1 hits: 6
Martina McBride Top 40 hits: 27 Top 10 hits: 16 Top 5 hits: 13 #1 hits: 5
Reba McEntire Top 40 hits: 24 Top 10 hits: 16 Top 5 hits: 12 #1 hits: 4
Shania Twain Top 40 hits: 25 Top 10 hits: 16 Top 5 hits: 9 #1 hits: 7
Most Top 40 hits: Martina McBride Most Top 10 hits: 3-way tie between Martina, Reba & Shania Most Top 5 hits: Martina McBride Most #1 hits: Shania Twain
Feel free to correct me, I did this quickly.
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Post by drock89 on Mar 22, 2005 17:13:40 GMT -5
Very interesting. I guess radio gives Shania more of a chance than we let on. Thanks TCorey!!
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Post by musicbuff78 on Mar 22, 2005 17:16:05 GMT -5
Very interesting. I guess radio gives Shania more of a chance than we let on. Thanks TCorey!! So now maybe all the Shania likers can shut their traps.
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Post by Free2Bme on Mar 22, 2005 17:18:21 GMT -5
While you're at it... I'd like to see how the same ladies stack up from 2002 (post 9/11) to today. Thanks Just wondering how the ladies stack up over the past 10 years. From 1995 through today: Most Top 40 hits: Martina McBride Most Top 10 hits: 3-way tie between Martina, Reba & Shania Most Top 5 hits: Martina McBride Most #1 hits: Shania Twain Feel free to correct me, I did this quickly.
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Post by drock89 on Mar 22, 2005 17:25:06 GMT -5
So now maybe all the Shania likers can shut their traps. Atleast they did. I too would like to see date 2003-2005.
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Post by luvhonkytonk on Mar 22, 2005 19:24:31 GMT -5
Thank you Marv for recognizing that B&D are still in the top 5. Whoever said that Rascall Flatts has surpassed B&D needs to do some research. They have a long way to go to catch up to B&D.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 22, 2005 20:07:25 GMT -5
And yet, in the last five years Shania has only had one song crack the top five, FAFA...
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Post by someguy on Mar 22, 2005 22:06:51 GMT -5
Top 5 artists right now... Consdiering that Kenny Cesney was the second most seen live artist of 2004 according to a recent BB cover story, I might be shortchanging him, but he is certainly as consistent on the charts as anybody. He's had at least 4 songs peak at #2 in the past three years, but that's just bad timing more than the quality of his music. I don't remember the last time he missed the top 5; he undoubtedly has the longest such streak of anybody out there. Kenny missed the top 5 in 2003 with "A Lot Of Things Different", so I'd think that either Tim or Alan holds the distinction of having the longest top 5 streak right now (assuming their newest singles make the top 5 - pretty safe for Tim, I wouldn't say the same for Alan).
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Post by ListenToMe on Mar 23, 2005 8:18:48 GMT -5
Right not it has to be the likes of Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw. For the females, I'd say Gretchen Wilson.
I feel I should put Shania down but they never reward her and her airplay has been down too. (Shouldn't have been IMO). >:(
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Post by Topay on Mar 23, 2005 9:12:24 GMT -5
I'm thinking Tim as well. All the songs Tim has released since "My Next 30 Years" have hit the Top 5:
Some Things Never Change: Missed the Top 5 30 Years: #1 Grown Men: #1 Angry All The Time: #1 Cowboy In Me: #1 Unbroken: #1 (BB) Red Ragtop: Top 5 Kind of Rain: #1 (R&R) Real Good Man: #1 Wind Blow By: #1 LLYWD: #1 Back When: #1
Kenny's streak started with "Young": Tin Man: missed the Top 5 Young: #2 Good Stuff: #1 Lot of Things Different: Top 5 (R&R) Big Star: #2 No Shirt: #2 There Goes My Life: #1 When The Sun Goes Down: #1 I Go Back: #2 The Woman With You: #2 Anything But Mine: Top 5
Alan 's had a nice string as well. I think everything from "This Must Be Love" went Top 5: Blues Man: missed Top 5 It Must Be Love: #1 http://www.memory: Top 5 (R&R) When Somebody Loves You: Top 5 Where I Come From: #1 Where Were You: #1 Drive: #1 Work In Progress: Top 3 That'd Be Alright: Top 3 5:00 Somewhere: #1 Remember When: #1 Good Thing: Top 5 Monday Morning Church: Top 5
So Alan's had the longest streak of Top 5 hits (with 12 right now), but that could change very soon (Tim has 11, with "Drugs or Jesus" still on the rise). Kenny has 11 right now, including his latest, so he's still a hit away. Tim's #1 list is quite impressive. Ten of the last 11 songs of his have gone all the way to the top. Very impressive!
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Post by Marv on Mar 23, 2005 12:45:01 GMT -5
Starting with 1997's 'It's Your Love', Tim leads everybody with 17 #1 singles in R&R; 'Back When' was his 23rd charttopper overall.
Two of his singles hit #1 in R&R without hitting #1 in BB; 'She's My Kind Of Rain' & 'One Of These Days'.
He had one single hit #1 in BB which stalled at #2 in R&R, which was 'Unbroken'.
With the exception of 'Some Things Never Change', every single since 'IYL' has hit the top 5.
'Indian Outlaw' peaked at #11 in 1994, and I'm pretty sure that only George Strait has had more #1 singles than Tim has since 1994.
He and Kenny are in a neck-and-neck race for 2005, since Toby Keith's two previous singles didn't perform up to his usual standards.
He also hit #1 accompanying Jo Dee Messina on 'Bring On The Rain' in one of the trades, but I don't recall which one.
Somone posted a couple of months ago that Kenny Chesney hasn't missed the top 5 since 1993; I don't recall the single which was mentioned.
I do know that Tim, George, AJ & B&D are very close as it relates to most #1 singles over the past 15 years; if 'Drugs Or Jesus' can hit #1, that woould make SIX in a row for Tim, the longest streak out there.
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Post by 2shane7 on Mar 23, 2005 13:21:34 GMT -5
Disclaimer: I really like Tim McGraw.
HOWEVER ... "Bring On The Rain" did indeed hit Number One in "Billboard," but I just don't see the point in Jo Dee having to credit Tim ... at least not in the full credits like that. I mean, he does nothing more than background vocals ... it's not as though it's a duet, and yet he gets full chart points for it!
Not that he wouldn't be well ahead of the pack without that one song, but still ...
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Mar 23, 2005 15:00:43 GMT -5
While you're at it... I'd like to see how the same ladies stack up from 2002 (post 9/11) to today. Thanks From post 9/11 to today, though keep in mind that Faith and Reba have had less output than Shania and Martina. Martina McBride Top 40 hits: 10 Top 10 hits: 5 Top 5 hits: 5 #1 hits: 1 Reba McEntire Top 40 hits: 5 Top 10 hits: 3 Top 5 hits: 2 #1 hits: 1 Shania Twain Top 40 hits: 7 Top 10 hits: 4 Top 5 hits: 1 #1 hits: None Faith Hill Top 40 hits: 4 Top 10 hits: None Top 5 hits: None #1 hits: None
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Post by drock89 on Mar 23, 2005 16:27:33 GMT -5
There's the proof that the format shifted after 2001. Francine, that shows you why Shania has only had one Top 5.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Mar 23, 2005 18:22:19 GMT -5
There's the proof that the format shifted after 2001. Francine, that shows you why Shania has only had one Top 5. I highly doubt it.
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Post by Marv on Mar 24, 2005 0:35:49 GMT -5
I'm still inclined to think that if Ms. Twain did a TRUE country song, such as the exceptional 'When I Think About Cheating', she'd be back in the top 5 in no time flat.
But she's always written most of her own songs, and that MIGHT be the reason her singles haven't done so well in the past 3.5 years, given the format's unmistakeable shift back to its traditional-leaning roots.
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Post by drock89 on Mar 24, 2005 0:40:48 GMT -5
Well when "I Ain't No Quitter" is released later this year, we shall see.
I agree that the fact that she is far from traditional has hurt her radio success. Hasn't hurt her album sales though.
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Post by 2shane7 on Mar 24, 2005 0:54:05 GMT -5
Frankly, I don't think the medium has returned to its traditional musical roots post 9/11 ... in the name of false patriotism, they've made a change, yes they have. They've embraced raving macho types like Toby Keith and Trace Adkins, cut out women for an entire year, and made themselves feel "Real Patriotic" by not playing the Dixie Chicks.
Well, look at the facts you ignorant DJ's and program directors: the Dixie Chicks are more country sounding than half of what you're playing in the name of Patriotism. And if they were really so heck-bent on returning to their traditional roots, they would have played the heck out of Loretta Lynn's new CD.
I'm sorry, but playing "American Soldier" and "Have You Forgotten" (by the way, "no I haven't Darryl but I don't need you to remind me either": SK) may make the stations feel that they are patriotic, but they could have proven the point in a much better way by actually PLAYING traditional, steeped in Americans music like Loretta's album, or YES, the Dixie Chicks.
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Post by drock89 on Mar 24, 2005 1:03:23 GMT -5
I disagree on Loretta. That album is not traditional country, it's more like rock.. But you are right about the Chicks and everything else!
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 24, 2005 1:20:49 GMT -5
Well when "I Ain't No Quitter" is released later this year, we shall see. I agree that the fact that she is far from traditional has hurt her radio success. Hasn't hurt her album sales though. Shania's sales have declined every album since COO.... from 19 million copies to 5 to 3...? And don't give me that "COO has been out for 5 years so wait till the other albums catch up " excuse... because after three years on the charts COO was still in the all-genre top forty and it had already shipped 17 million copies. UP was out of the Top 200 shortly after reaching two years on the chart with only 5.5 million shipped. Clearly it won't match COO, and the GH will not either... Obviously, Shania's next all-new studio album will be the true test. If it doesn't sell at least as many records as UP, that will definitely say something about her career's choices today...
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Post by drock89 on Mar 24, 2005 1:23:15 GMT -5
Shania's sales have declined every album since COO.... from 19 million copies to 5 to 3...? And don't give me that "COO has been out for 5 years so wait till the other albums catch up " excuse... because after three years on the charts COO was still in the all-genre top forty and it had already shipped 17 million copies. UP was out of the Top 200 shortly after reaching two years on the chart with only 5.5 million shipped. Clearly it won't match COO, and the GH will not either... Obviously, Shania's next all-new studio album will be the true test. If it doesn't sell at least as many records as UP, that will definitely say something about her career's choices today... This isn't a Shania thread. But FYI, every artist experienced a huge decline in record sales.... of course not every one as big Shania, but not every album sells 17 million in 3 years.
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Post by 2shane7 on Mar 24, 2005 1:28:43 GMT -5
Shania's sales have declined every album since COO.... from 19 million copies to 5 to 3...? And don't give me that "COO has been out for 5 years so wait till the other albums catch up " excuse... because after three years on the charts COO was still in the all-genre top forty and it had already shipped 17 million copies. UP was out of the Top 200 shortly after reaching two years on the chart with only 5.5 million shipped. Clearly it won't match COO, and the GH will not either... Obviously, Shania's next all-new studio album will be the true test. If it doesn't sell at least as many records as UP, that will definitely say something about her career's choices today... Oh for the love of God. First of all: "every album since COO" ... there has only been one studio, plus a greatest hits, so it's hardly a lot to go on. Second, no freakin' kidding! "Come On Over" is not only the best-selling country album (yes, COUNTRY album: it's as much country as half of what's labeled country these days), but one of the best-selling albums of all time. No matter what came after it, the sales were bound to be lower ... it's just like Michael Jackson was never going to top "Thriller," and Alanis Morissette was never going to top "Jagged Little Pill" ... because those artists were lucky enough to have one of the best-selling albums of all time. You can rave all you want about how she'll never top those sales, but guess what: neither will anyone else. So it hardly serves an argument against Shania! Just to tie this in to my original thread topic, Shania is def. in the list of Infallibles: No matter how you slice it, Shania is the best-selling artist in country music these days ... and she scores a lot of Top 10 hits, too.
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Post by FrancineLangeInNY on Mar 24, 2005 2:46:39 GMT -5
"Come On Over" is not only the best-selling country album (yes, COUNTRY album: it's as much country as half of what's labeled country these days), Country? Or pop album marketed as country? Let's call a spade a spade...
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Post by Love4Shania on Mar 24, 2005 9:48:56 GMT -5
Shania's Greatest Hits was out for about 1 month in 2004 and still managed to become one of the 8 Top selling albums of 2004. What does that tell you? ...that despite lack of radio play and a shift of industry popularity, Shania still manages to outsell over 90% of artists today with ease. ;) You can compare Shania's recent albums to Come On Over all you want but it is a completely ridiculous comparison and if you want, I could go into a load of reasons as to why!
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Post by musicbuff78 on Mar 24, 2005 10:36:55 GMT -5
Shania's Greatest Hits was out for about 1 month in 2004 and still managed to become one of the 8 Top selling albums of 2004. What does that tell you? ...that despite lack of radio play and a shift of industry popularity, Shania still manages to outsell over 90% of artists today with ease. ;) You can compare Shania's recent albums to Come On Over all you want but it is a completely ridiculous comparison and if you want, I could go into a load of reasons as to why! For Christ's sake, SHUT UP about Shania already. This thread isn't even supposed to be just about her.
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Post by Love4Shania on Mar 24, 2005 10:49:17 GMT -5
For Christ's sake, SHUT UP about Shania already. This thread isn't even supposed to be just about her. I was replying to something FrancineLangeInNY said actually.....he's the one dragging Shania related stuff on in these threads. If you don't like what you read then ignore it and stop acting like a ****ing ass, what is your damn problem?!
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Post by drock89 on Mar 24, 2005 10:51:19 GMT -5
For Christ's sake, SHUT UP about Shania already. This thread isn't even supposed to be just about her. Tell that to FrancineLangeNY. He obviously has no constrant not to mention her name.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Mar 24, 2005 13:15:18 GMT -5
Obviously you people can't control yourselves.
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